Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[damo666]

GM's should only comment on what's going on in the game when called with ##Call GM

Sorry, disagree. They had been contacted privately apparently as well as comments on thread so making it definitively clear was the right thing to do.

[worcej]

GM's should only comment on what's going on in the game when called with ##Call GM

When I see multiple people complaining about the ability in the game and receive multiple PMs regarding it, I feel compelled to set the record straight so everyone understands the purpose.

Thank you for also expressing your opinion of what a GM should do. I will gladly continue to manage any game I GM as I see fit to ensure it is a good experience for the players involved.

[Durga]

GM's should only comment on what's going on in the game when called with ##Call GM

When I see multiple people complaining about the ability in the game and receive multiple PMs regarding it, I feel compelled to set the record straight so everyone understands the purpose.

Thank you for also expressing your opinion of what a GM should do. I will gladly continue to manage any game I GM as I see fit to ensure it is a good experience for the players involved.

[rdrivera2005]

Why would a VT EP encourage et to claim?

If et town claims (irrelevant if true or not) EP is lynched and et presumably NKd.

If et is scum and claims EP still gets lynched and et escapes until the real PR cc thus exposing their identity.

How can this be good play from vt EP?

I suppose it could bad vt play from EP but then he deserves to be lynched imo.

I didn't say it's good play, in fact it's probably not, but I still don't see why it's scummy. It's even worst play as scum as he could have just claimed himself.

And your last comment is really scummy to me. Which town mindset make you say bad town players deserves to be lynched?

Do you think claiming VT is probably not good play?
But you said that
'His(et's) reaction to the claim thing is interesting. He keep his options open (maybe waiting for Secretary to say something? I know it´s speculation, but can´t not to think about this).'
Why do you think not claiming is interesting?
Did you change thought?

I think EP claiming VT is probably bad play either as town or scum, yes.

But the situation is a bit different, he claimed VT first, you could have also claimed VT, claimed PR (which will be a bad play as town so far from EOD) or say you don't intend to claim any role, but you just give a response that seems to keep your options open for later, you even did not vote EP until now. But I am not reading much on it, to be honest, I just find weird people basing his votes on EP claiming VT.

[rdrivera2005]

##VOTE Espresso.
I vote Espresso.
Because I am forced to do so.

Why just after my last message, lol

[Nephthys]

Guys, its a miracle,

I'm actually caught up!!

[Nephthys]

The choices are interesting....

I mildly scumread Espresso and am a little null on et.

Gonna drop a ##vote Espresso

[Nephthys]

Can anyone whos played with EP indicate if he's usually this calm?

[damo666]

Guys, its a miracle,

I'm actually caught up!!

Yeah when you miss a chunk it's a nightmare getting back up to date.

[Durga]

Can anyone whos played with EP indicate if he's usually this calm?

He's pretty much always calm/chill.

[Nephthys]

Can anyone whos played with EP indicate if he's usually this calm?

He's pretty much always calm/chill.

Oh yay, can we please never let this guy go? The games are so much more wholesome now

[Nephthys]

Also Damo is hard town btw

[et]

I thought we shouldn't claim our role in this early time.
Unfortunately Espresso claimed he is VT, but I don't claim now.

Why Espresso encouraged me to claim?
I think 4 cases.

1 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as VT

In this case, I think we had better not to claim.
Mafia may think of aliving one as PR.

2 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as town PR

In this case, he had better to say that 'I am VT, not PR. So, please vote me'

3 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as Scum

If I were scum and claimed town PR, he would be killed by lynch.
But, I alive at next day. Town can doubte me.

4 Espresso is scum.

As Prad said.


I think, most likely 3. But 4 is possible too.

[FlaviusAetius]

can someone explain to me why flav is so obsessed w/ chippe

Cause he's apart of my towncore and he's getting accused, if he wasn't I would be focusing on TrPrado, which I am doing tomorrow, the case is coming @TrPrado

Will it be a real one this time? Promise?

Promise

[FlaviusAetius]

I mean the first one wasn't actually a case, just questions I had for you, which made me think you were scum, a case in my eyes is laying out each point and giving a thorough explanation with quotes etc etc Which is what I planned to do, Im assuming the Judge has Espresso and et as candiates now??
Worst. Decision. Ever.
I dont have a clue about either, they both lurked...

[et]

##VOTE Espresso.
I vote Espresso.
Because I am forced to do so.

Why just after my last message, lol

I didn't care about voting timing.
Because I hadn't voted when judge used Role Power.
So, I have no choice.

[rdrivera2005]

I thought we shouldn't claim our role in this early time.
Unfortunately Espresso claimed he is VT, but I don't claim now.

Why Espresso encouraged me to claim?
I think 4 cases.

1 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as VT

In this case, I think we had better not to claim.
Mafia may think of aliving one as PR.

2 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as town PR

In this case, he had better to say that 'I am VT, not PR. So, please vote me'

3 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as Scum

If I were scum and claimed town PR, he would be killed by lynch.
But, I alive at next day. Town can doubte me.

4 Espresso is scum.

As Prad said.


I think, most likely 3. But 4 is possible too.

If you are both town this will hurt town badly.
I strongly disagree with the Judge's choice on using his power this early on the game.

[et]

I didn't say it's good play, in fact it's probably not, but I still don't see why it's scummy. It's even worst play as scum as he could have just claimed himself.

And your last comment is really scummy to me. Which town mindset make you say bad town players deserves to be lynched?

Do you think claiming VT is probably not good play?
But you said that
'His(et's) reaction to the claim thing is interesting. He keep his options open (maybe waiting for Secretary to say something? I know it´s speculation, but can´t not to think about this).'
Why do you think not claiming is interesting?
Did you change thought?

I think EP claiming VT is probably bad play either as town or scum, yes.

But the situation is a bit different, he claimed VT first, you could have also claimed VT, claimed PR (which will be a bad play as town so far from EOD) or say you don't intend to claim any role, but you just give a response that seems to keep your options open for later, you even did not vote EP until now. But I am not reading much on it, to be honest, I just find weird people basing his votes on EP claiming VT.

I suggested EP not to claim role. But he claimed.
I don't hope this situation. But, I think I shouldn't claim my role.

[FlaviusAetius]

I think I'm caught up

Flavius: Mostly a reminder that you have very important questions floating since about midway through D1 around that you need to answer. But also, what about Chippe's behavior do you think is helpful? Please be sure to answer this one because I have a followup. Also, why do you presume an entire wagon that was entirely willing to dissipate is full of faithful actors?

I answered those questions, I'll pull it back up
Who said I thought Chippie's behavior was helpful?
I think what he did, in the beginning, was ridiculous, but no way was it in scummy. I still haven't finished rereading him, but I guess I'll save that for tonight and try to offer some things about Espresso and et. BOTH OF WHICH ARE LURKERS
Also, its because I and bozo's wagons are easy to latch onto, 1 hour before EoD, TrPrado's wagon has two people, one being me and the other Chippie.
Carl, Tom, Connor all join us after much convincing, but we all had to leave, literally 3 minutes before EoD.
Do you understand the commitment to TrPrado's wagon? We stayed there until the very last moment, all to vote bozo, who was more scummy than I.(played very unlike a bozo, and lurked)

None of us wanted to kill bozo, we were left with no choice. These people should be in your towncore, you questioning that is just ridiculous at this point

[FlaviusAetius]

I thought we shouldn't claim our role in this early time.
Unfortunately Espresso claimed he is VT, but I don't claim now.

Why Espresso encouraged me to claim?
I think 4 cases.

1 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as VT

In this case, I think we had better not to claim.
Mafia may think of aliving one as PR.

2 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as town PR

In this case, he had better to say that 'I am VT, not PR. So, please vote me'

3 Espresso is VT and he thought of me as Scum

If I were scum and claimed town PR, he would be killed by lynch.
But, I alive at next day. Town can doubte me.

4 Espresso is scum.

As Prad said.


I think, most likely 3. But 4 is possible too.

If you are both town this will hurt town badly.
I strongly disagree with the Judge's choice on using his power this early on the game.

Considering three town just died, and two people are going to be dropping every day, it makes sense too
Those two candidates were the absolute worst though