That was not my logic, I was referring to the logic above.Octavious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:48 pmAnd yet those same nation states have managed to live alongside each other relatively successfully for the last 3/4 of a century. The obvious conclusion being that your logic is flawed.orathaic wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:12 amIt seems appropriate here to point out the the 'classic Nation-state' model lead directly to the game of diplomacy - via the wonderful experience of two world wars.
Nation states can not be trusted to live peacefully next to each other... Is what the above logic would conclude.
There are two stages to the evolution of society. The first stage is where something monumental happens - eg industrialisation means that war between major nations can no longer be profitable. The second stage is where humanity, in its ignorance, carries on with the old ways regardless and suffers a painful lesson in why it no longer works. In theory you can miss out the second stage, as the truth of the first stage is rarely hidden, and yet time and time again society needs to experience the pain of the lesson first hand in order to take it on board.
We were damned lucky we got to experience a little bit of nuclear war in WWII. I've little doubt that a more devastating nuclear war would have happened afterwards if we hadn't.
And yes, it is rather flawed. Whether applied to nation states or multicultural societies.