Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD

[Vecna]

Like, an argument can definately be made he wouldnt do that for his teammate, or that he was just doing it to make a person that already was suspicious even more suspicious......but it sure stuck out to me.

[Tom Bombadil]

Choo choo!!

All aboard.

They call us Butch Bombadil and the Sundance dargorygel

[dargorygel]

Choo choo!!

All aboard.

They call us Butch Bombadil and the Sundance dargorygel

Well, it worked twice... :-/

[Tom Bombadil]

Hmm. That’s a good point Vecna.

[dargorygel]

I still am thinking about rdrivera… My initial D1 analysis is still in my head, and he is on my original list of lynchables.

That being said, in my ISO, these things stood out to me now.

On page 10 of D1, he drops this comment about brain: “I liked Xorxes posts and Brain is acting weird, but he always act weird.” Which might be planting a seed of brain-voting, without being too accusatory… in case scum Rdr has to bus…

These two brain things would have more meaning if dargo hadn't shot so quickly before a vote test could be done on the brain...

On pages 60 and 61 he has a tunneling conversation with flash… which looks worse after flash’s townflip. He is too confident imo.

On day 2… there is some slow but unsubstantiated movement towards brain… which might be some bussing prep…

When I voted for him, he responded with a simple defense… but I wonder if a townie would even bother defending… but perhaps a scum might feel more prone to defend. Although Rdr is our professional scum…

Finally, he never did his vote analysis… promises, promises, promises.

Posting this NOT because it is great and profound… but because I want to keep an eye still on rdr, and maybe someone can add to it.

[Vecna]

I should revisit my early game reads, since once again my initial impressions on brain and jamiet were spot on.

[dargorygel]

I should revisit my early game reads, since once again my initial impressions on brain and jamiet were spot on.

I noticed that when I read you, too...
But perhaps you were just already planning to bus them... specifically... because they are the brain and jamie show...

[Vecna]

Jamiet attacked my big -DO NOT LYNCH EVER- list by prodding heavily at my read of brainbomb and rdrivera, calling me overconfident in that weird way. It already gave me weird vibes.

I doubt he'd be so daft to only attack my reads on his two teammates though, but he did so for my brainbomb read at least.

[dargorygel]

But unlikely to do both...

[Vecna]

town so far
ezio
e=mc
ND
Vecna
flash

nulls
ike
moscow
foodcoat
neph
xorxes
vaporwave

scum
crimson
ghug
jamie
rdrivera

Maybe brainbomb opted to list nearly his entire team here as scum?

All minus thamrick because he hadnt posted yet?

[Vecna]

Ghug and Brainbomb's posts of the read where they described eachothers playstyle differences in depth just seemed way way way too detailled on both accounts.

Like they were both just getting too excited to bus eachother, and it was a contest to see who could get the other lynched first.

Im most definately not gonna rule Ghug out as scum.

[xorxes]

VOTE COUNT:
thdfrance (6) DemonRHK Nephthys damo666 thamrick Jamiet99uk e.m.c^42
bozotheclown (6) xorxes LordQuas rdrivera2005 Vecna DoubtingThomas MoscowFleet
Jamiet99uk (5) Tom Bombadil brainbomb bozotheclown peterlund RagingIke297
brainbomb (1) ghug
Vaporwave (1) Ezio
ghug (1) thdfrance
damo666 (1) dargorygel
Nephthys (1) Vaporwave
xorxes (1) CrimsonFox

1 minutes left.

Then bozo, Vecna, Moscow, LQ move to thd to break the tie. Not much we can conclude from that last minute.

Last vote on Jamiet was Ike's an hour and a half before the deadline to put him in a 5-3 lead against thd. That makes Ike look good.

The votes from there to the last minute were:

thamrick for thd (bad)
dargo for bozo (town)
emc for dargo (?)
thamrick for bozo (also bad if bozo is town)
LQ for thd (looks bad but I think LQ town)
LQ for bozo (looks bad again)
Jamiet for thd (scum)
emc for thd (bad)
rdr from bozo to thd (bad with bad reason)
DT from bozo to thd (bad)
rdr from thd back to bozo (bad)
Vecna to bozo (good if bozo scum, NAI if town)
Moscow to bozo (good if bozo scum, NAI if town)
DT from thd to bozo creating a 6-6 tie between thd and bozo (good if bozo scum, ok if bozo town)

I think thamrick and rivera look the worst there. ##VOTE thamrick

[ghug]

Ghug and Brainbomb's posts of the read where they described eachothers playstyle differences in depth just seemed way way way too detailled on both accounts.

Like they were both just getting too excited to bus eachother, and it was a contest to see who could get the other lynched first.

Im most definately not gonna rule Ghug out as scum.

Well you're a dumbass.


Tom and Darg, can you make everyone promise not to sheep you so that we can have a real lynch. Thamrick is a decent wagon, but we should have multiple.

[xorxes]

And suddenly everyone that was shouting really hard for the desperado to shoot jamiet is looking really really bad

Name names! Usually shouting hard for suboptimal moves is more of a towntell.

It wasn't suboptimal though.

Arguable. It turned out good by removing the two scum PRs, but if dargo could have stayed hidden a couple more days his clear would have been more valuable closer to LYLO.

[dargorygel]

Ghug and Brainbomb's posts of the read where they described eachothers playstyle differences in depth just seemed way way way too detailled on both accounts.

Like they were both just getting too excited to bus eachother, and it was a contest to see who could get the other lynched first.

Im most definately not gonna rule Ghug out as scum.

Well you're a dumbass.


Tom and Darg, can you make everyone promise not to sheep you so that we can have a real lynch. Thamrick is a decent wagon, but we should have multiple.

Do NOT sheep me.
I did nothing for those kills but pull an obvious trigger.
We need to run this day normally.

I will go back to lurking.

[ghug]

Name names! Usually shouting hard for suboptimal moves is more of a towntell.

It wasn't suboptimal though.

Arguable. It turned out good by removing the two scum PRs, but if dargo could have stayed hidden a couple more days his clear would have been more valuable closer to LYLO.

Vecna was very clearly misunderstanding how Oracle worked and arguing that new information about the PRness of the guilty scans was shedding new light. I don't believe that you didn't understand this.

Why do you comment on rd's reasoning for his votes in your colorful vote analysis, but nobody else's?

Why didn't you advocate the clearly optimal "shoot them in a few days" plan with me?

[Tom Bombadil]

Hey everyone. Ghug says you can't sheep me.

[xorxes]

Ok, let's make this interesting ##vote thdfrance

This vote by rivera looks horrible.

Vote count was:

thd (6)
Jamiet (5)
bozo (5)

and rivera made it:

thd (7)
Jamiet (5)
bozo (4)

Ironically this actually makes me townread him. If bozo is scum, scum rivera keeps bussing him every time. If bozo is town, scum rivera doesn't try to save Jamie, I don't think.

[LordQuas]

sheeping tom no time to play

##Vote thamrick

[xorxes]

Vecna was very clearly misunderstanding how Oracle worked and arguing that new information about the PRness of the guilty scans was shedding new light. I don't believe that you didn't understand this.

Believe what you want, I thought he was thinking like me that exposing desperado was not optimal.

Why do you comment on rd's reasoning for his votes in your colorful vote analysis, but nobody else's?

Because it was the only one I actually remembered from reading it the first time. I was only looking at the vote tracker so I didn't know what justifications the others gave.

Why didn't you advocate the clearly optimal "shoot them in a few days" plan with me?

I wasn't sure at first what was best, my initial thought was that it was a good use of the desperado because it guranteed three shots. It only occured to me later that the desperado's clear was much more valuable later on.