Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD

[rdrivera2005]

again I'm not saying wolves NEVER do things that hurt their image or town NEVER care about it

but wolves do care MORE about it since in base form that is their most important desire, they don't especially have to worry about finding other wolves

it's also why in multiballs it's so much harder to catch wolves since they're able to focus on actually finding and not just imitate it

I don't think it's true here. People knows each other metas, on Máfia and ondip and on forum, so if you are a confrontational guy you can't just avoid conflict when you are scum. And beginners tend to worry a lot about his own image even when town, it takes time to dippers understand it's a team game.

Anyone wanting to ##vote Flash with me? Demon improved a bit and I don't feel I want to lynch him anymore.

[Vecna]

On readthrough, getting great town vibes from:

DoubtingThomas
Vecna
ghug
LordQuas
jamiet

##unvote

@ND - you seem trollololololly. Don't remember you that way. What changed? Also, I assume those recent reads are scumreads. Townreads?

This came out of nowhere. No thought process. Might as well've just copied some popular reads. Scummyness read improves if not more content is provided.

if he was copping popular sentiment, ghug and jamie are NOT being read as town

thats not actually correct I think

[LordQuas]

if theyre aiming for lhf then why are they on cfox?

because he's a lhf. Have you seen anyone defending him?

are you defending him?

no I think he's been wolfy as fuck this game and I've posted as such

but as moscow said, look at the people on his wagon. It's literally 5 lurkers

[MoscowFleet]

Moscow. I could apply that reasoning to every poster with volume in the game. They post a lot but have very little substance. CF, brain, LQ, ND, Jamie, emc etc etc

Yess - you are my only scumread. Who cares. The best way for me (and I would argue most people) is to find your townies and use POE. It’s how I’ve always had success, and how that will continue. Once we have some flips it becomes more impactful to search for scum with that information. Right now with no info, it’s much easier to find those who are town and attacking the game from a town mindset

You really just asserted that Lordquas, Jamie, and emc have been here but contributed little? Bit of a stretch don't you think?

What do you think of Ezio coming in and saying he thinks you had good reasoning behind your reads? Surely you agree with me that this

Consider my wholly unconvinced regarding Moscow. Some hollow reads pushed out only when he feels some heat doesnt change my mind.

Similar to my rationale with brain, I’m prerty against lynching Jamie or xorxes D1 as their alignment usually becomes pretty apparent.

Also not willing to lynch any of the following as I townread them:

CrimsonFox
DoubtingThomas
Emc
LordQuas
Vapor
Vecna

has been basically the only place where you've given reads, and you've given no reasoning whatsoever behind them? Don't you find it odd that Ezio was so willing to jump in and defend these reads?

[LordQuas]

This came out of nowhere. No thought process. Might as well've just copied some popular reads. Scummyness read improves if not more content is provided.

if he was copping popular sentiment, ghug and jamie are NOT being read as town

thats not actually correct I think

at the time it very much was so

[flash2015]

Stupid question - what is lhf?

[Vaporwave]

Stupid question - what is lhf?

could be an easy to lynch player

[LordQuas]

again I'm not saying wolves NEVER do things that hurt their image or town NEVER care about it

but wolves do care MORE about it since in base form that is their most important desire, they don't especially have to worry about finding other wolves

it's also why in multiballs it's so much harder to catch wolves since they're able to focus on actually finding and not just imitate it

I don't think it's true here. People knows each other metas, on Máfia and ondip and on forum, so if you are a confrontational guy you can't just avoid conflict when you are scum. And beginners tend to worry a lot about his own image even when town, it takes time to dippers understand it's a team game.

Anyone wanting to ##vote Flash with me? Demon improved a bit and I don't feel I want to lynch him anymore.

but then as wolves they are creating that conflict because why?

they care about their image

if a player develops a reputation for being an angry and fighting town they're probably not caring about this or doing it intentionally in their town game, but they are when they try to replicate it in their wolf game

caring about your image means you're deliberately choosing your actions based on how you think other people will react to them in a favorable light

[LordQuas]

Stupid question - what is lhf?

could be an easy to lynch player

stands for low hanging fruit but yeah you're right

[LordQuas]

oh and I had no real fond memories of flash and a quick ISO of him didn't change that. He can die imo

[Tom Bombadil]

I wasn’t expecting Ezio if all people to jump in, but that shows he is reading the game so that is good.

And I’m not arguing that those people have contributed little. I’m saying that one (you for example) could give that argument and it would be accepted as valid even though one (you for example) could not have read a word of the thread.

Regarding my townreads, I feel like I explain them as I go - but I’ll go more in depth when I’m not at work or at EOD perhaps.

Crimson is the only one in danger and I’m hoping people come to their sense. Driving interaction even if it seems silly is a necessary thing. Crimson seems to want interaction out of spam rather than just spam. Plus similar to why I wouldn’t lynch brain here, I wouldn’t want a high volume poster getting axes for “posting a lot but adding little”

[MoscowFleet]

And hey, look at this! Tom posted this about Ezio on page 22:

Regarding Ezio - I’ve gotten a towny impression though I can’t exactly place why, so I’m not putting too much stock in that feeling

What had Ezio said up to this point? 7 shitposts and an empty townread on DT. Now, 40+ pages later, Ezio pops in to do what? Defend Tom's heap of empty reads.

Not to mention Ezio is STILL voting Crimsonfox from a joke post on page 20, even though CF is the leading wagon with less than an hour to go until EOD.

There's some bullshit going on here.

[MoscowFleet]

Tom, I kind of get where you're coming from with the "posted without substance angle", but I literally just proved what would happen if I used that logic on someone without reading the thread. I'd get called out on it, just like I called you out on saying that about LQ, Jamie, and EMC.

[thdfrance]

This is the second game in the last few I've played where I've been put on the block for low involvement D1...the last time this happened it was a scum lead lynch. Is it possible this is happening again?

There are others in the game with involvement just as low as mine, why me?

[ghug]

I think you're a bitch who can't be bothered to put in the effort to play and wants to blame others for your inability to care since obviously it's not YOUR fault that you're literally only shitposting and complaining without any actual reads

:)

Nope, you don't get to do this. I'm very clearly giving actual reads. I've read the whole thread now. Your behavior is problematic, and deflecting isn't going to change that. Why the hell are you telling people they don't have to read the thread?

you literally JUST started giving actual reads, you had a whole slew of posts and it took a ridiculous amount of prodding to get there

and because literally every other person that enters complains about the thread being too long. If you don't have the time to read through the entire thread and still be active, then don't, I'd rather have you ITT reacting real time so I can generate a read on you

why do you rather people don't post huh?

:)

Nah, I started giving reads yesterday, stopped, and then started again this morning. One of those reads is that you're bad news, and I'm not sure if it's because you're from another site where people play differently or if you're doing it maliciously.

[thdfrance]

I feel ridiculously under prepared to make a full case against anyone in particular, as I almost always do on day 1.

[LordQuas]

Ezio's vote was allegedly even on accident based on how that was worded. And he really hasn't had anything good. I also hate his intro about how he would totally vote cfox if he wasn't sure it would kill him from vengeful town as a result

which implies that he thinks cfox is town...

uhhHHHHHH

##Vote Ezio

[Vecna]

I hope to be on to read arguments close to EOD. But the most scummy to me right now is crimsonfox. Day one seems falsely involved
I don't like ND s weirdness but it doesn't seem ai. I am suspicious of mf but more of cf. Hope to be back but if not ##vote crimson

In response to LordQuas' post just before this; You really dont feel this type of posting is exactly the way Darg was last game?

Because I do. And this type of post fits pretty nicely in a THD + darg type of team (or darg+ND type of team, ignoring the other wagon for some reason).

Darg, why Crimson over THD? Crimson has provided a ton of content, cant you like, come up with a reason why he has to go?

[LordQuas]

This is the second game in the last few I've played where I've been put on the block for low involvement D1...the last time this happened it was a scum lead lynch. Is it possible this is happening again?

There are others in the game with involvement just as low as mine, why me?

wahhhh

dude you got 3 posts. In a vacuum you have low activity, if you don't want to get lynched then try to play the game

and I'm not even pushing for your lynch rn today but it still looks bad

(wolf chat ping?)

[MoscowFleet]

And Tom, you still didn't answer my question. Sure, you may not have been expecting Ezio to jump in. But you're saying you find it acceptable that he thought your reads had good reasoning? How can he claim good reasoning when you didn't even give any?

If you're town, surely you'd be considering the possibility that Ezio is agreeing with you just to gain your favour. But for some reason you don't seem to be considering that.