Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Well the Oracle is dead, and was town, just for the record.

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh sorry no, my mistake. Xorxes was Medium, not Oracle.

[Jamiet99uk]

I believe that in theory the Doctor could be Mafia.

[bozotheclown]

@Flash:

You have done fuck all since you subbed in, to replace ND who had done fuck all either. If you're here to participate, please participate. Here are some questions for you too:

What are your thoughts?
Do you agree with ND's reads?
Do you have any questions for anybody?

Whoa. Who peed in your cereal?

Anyway, no real thoughts as yet (not much has really happened since I subbed in).

Still making sure I understand the mechanics.. Just confirming the only civilizations with guaranteed alignment are:

England (Town)
China (Town)
Egypt (Town)
Mongols (Town-Third Party)
Barbarians (Third Party)
Celts (Town)

America (Mafia)
Australia (Mafia Traitor)

What about these two?:

Askia (Town?) - Can we have a Mafia doctor?
Greece (Town?) - Can we have a Mafia Oracle?

Any others?

From my understanding of the setup, the only guaranteed alignments are:

England (Town)
China (Town)
Egypt (Town)
America (Mafia)
Barbarians (Third Party)

Also, Mongols and Australia are guaranteed to not be in the game.

[LordQuas]

Hmm?

I'm Vanilla Town, if you're speculating about my role.

The two people I'm totally sure are town are me and Garden Gnome. Damo very close after that.

I've re-read Dargorygel and I'm leaning town.

Now Worcej.

This could actually be a scum claim since theres hardly enough Vanilla town left in the role doc for this to be true

ha you're right!
I count 4 actual vanillas in this game.

have 5 people claimed it?

let's make all our PRs claim so we can know they're town!

/s

[brainbomb]

Sorry for all the mistakes on the doc guys. Hope youre all having fun.

[brainbomb]

3 hours left in Classical Era

[LordQuas]

goddamn tho call me king karma

[Jamiet99uk]

@Worcej: On page 50 you said you thought one of the following was scum, lurking in the background of EoD1:

"Damo, ND (now flash), Demon, darg, DrCJG, and DT"

Now, we know that DrCJG was town, and Demon probably is.

Do you think that Damo, Flash, Darg, or DT is most likely to be scum out of that group?

[Nephthys]

Sorry for all the mistakes on the doc guys. Hope youre all having fun.

Honestly loving it, some solid work went into this. Thanks for the game <3

[LordQuas]

why is demon probably town again? I don't remember

[Nephthys]

Hmm?

I'm Vanilla Town, if you're speculating about my role.

The two people I'm totally sure are town are me and Garden Gnome. Damo very close after that.

I've re-read Dargorygel and I'm leaning town.

Now Worcej.

This could actually be a scum claim since theres hardly enough Vanilla town left in the role doc for this to be true

ha you're right!
I count 4 actual vanillas in this game.

have 5 people claimed it?

Who so far has claimed VT except Jamie?

We have CJG confirmed but thats it I thought

[Jamiet99uk]

why is demon probably town again? I don't remember

In my view the way he conducted himself during the gladiator thing didn't look fake to me.

If worcej disagrees he can feel free to keep Demon in his list.

[Jamiet99uk]

Who so far has claimed VT except Jamie?

We have CJG confirmed but thats it I thought

WHY ARE YOU ASKING
THIS QUESTION?

ARE YOU FISHING FOR PRs?

Because
that's
what
it
looks
like.

[Vecna]

And what was it again that he did that was so hard to fake again? Because nothing about it looked in any way pure towny either.

[Jamiet99uk]

And what was it again that he did that was so hard to fake again? Because nothing about it looked in any way pure towny either.

Ok lemme do a quick re-read. He doesn't have all that many posts.

[Foxcastle]

why is demon probably town again? I don't remember

In my view the way he conducted himself during the gladiator thing didn't look fake to me.

How he conducted himself during the gladiator challenge? You mean... all THREE posts?

I will hold my end vote until it is needed.

Some people have conditional powers they may want to activate.

I’ll go first.

HEY SQUIGS, STEP INTO MY OFFICE.

Okay. Guess I’m waiting on a GM.

Long story short vote for me or squigs, we are the only options.

##Vote Squigs

I have to give him credit for fighting to the ##end

There's so little there, I'm surprised you're willing to make a judgement at all.

I'm not claiming I would have known what to do with the gladiator challenge, but DemonRHK's use of it stinks. There were at least two better challengers (me, Bozo) than Squigs, who was confirmed scum. DemonRHK isn't a dumb player, so why did they make a dumb move? Despite asking, I don't get a response from him.

I think it's more likely that DemonRHK is scum and they wanted to mop up Squigs without leaving a serious day of voting to analyze, and the gladiator challenge provided a way to do it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Things that strike me about DemonRHK on re-read:

1. From page 13 it was clear he knew there was a Mafia Daychat. He didn't come out and say this, but he pressed CrimsonFox over an apparent change in tack which he then went on to explain (p.33) was because he thought Crimson was being coached. At that point, Demon noted that he was aware the Mafia had daychat.

2. He criticised and pressured Xorxes in the early game, and this appeared to prompt a shift in gear from Xorxes, who we now know was town. The moment Xorxes started putting the work in, Demon acknowledged this. I'm not sure if this indicates anything, it just stands out.

3. His cry of "HEY SQUIGS, STEP INTO MY OFFICE" amused me. But I know "amusing" and "towny" are not the same.

Whether he is town or scum I think he's playing quite well. If he's scum, he's done nothing to give himself away.

[Jamiet99uk]

There were at least two better challengers (me, Bozo) than Squigs, who was confirmed scum. DemonRHK isn't a dumb player, so why did they make a dumb move? Despite asking, I don't get a response from him.

I'm not sure I agree. Challenging you, if you are town, would be a great move for a scum Gladiator, for sure. You'd have been more likely to get lynched, and he could then have said "oh dear, oh well, several people were scumreading Foxcastle, ah dear dear, my mistake" and even tried to draw towncred.

[Jamiet99uk]

You have to bear in mind he could only use his Gladiator power that phase.