Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Or else @Jamie, seeing as we are both the most active here, what do you think of
- xorxes entrance, as the other member of our little scum group last game do you agree with me that he is different here and townier.
- RHK's read list

I think Xorxes is scum. I explained this in detail and voted him but you weren't interested.

I'll need a look at RHKs reads, let me check. I apologise, I was busy responding to all the flak you morons are shooting at me.

[Nephthys]

Or else @Jamie, seeing as we are both the most active here, what do you think of
- xorxes entrance, as the other member of our little scum group last game do you agree with me that he is different here and townier.
- RHK's read list

I think Xorxes is scum. I explained this in detail and voted him but you weren't interested.

I'll need a look at RHKs reads, let me check. I apologise, I was busy responding to all the flak you morons are shooting at me.

WRT your case against xorxes, from what I can see it is build on his post asking whether you were comfortable with all the roles you didn't ask about.

I personally don't find this scummy for the following reasons;
- You posted the question bank 5 minutes into the game, I would say therefore that you had those questions predetermined and could easily have slipped one in about your own role.
- You only asked about 8/36 roles listed in the PM doc, I don't this provides really any information had you answered Xorxes questions.
- Its a pretty weak push at PR fishing if you ask me

Overall the rest of Xorxes play overrides this one post to me. I think that post is more likely to gauge the depth that you understand the game to, it opens up critiques like the one I posted against you when you backed up my +1 post (parts of which I still think are valid)

[ghug]

Nepthys, I think you may have missed my question about +1 solicitors.

Jamie, you say it's scum jumping on you opportunistically. Is that just the new vote from ND? Is it all three of us?

[Nephthys]

Nepthys, I think you may have missed my question about +1 solicitors.

Jamie, you say it's scum jumping on you opportunistically. Is that just the new vote from ND? Is it all three of us?

Oops sorry, that I did, will find it now

[worcej]

Saturday starts are rough... In process of reading and catching up right now.

[Nephthys]

K, I'm done trolling Jamie. I really don't see anything scum indicative in Ezio's blatant reaction test, though, and Jamie tends to focus his wrath more on shit that offends him than shit that's scummy when he's scum, so my vote's staying.

Nephthys, how was Crimson "begging" for +1s, and why are you not criticizing me for begging for them myself?

Got it,

Crimson
Pg4 - posts 5 times, apart from "Hi Quas" the other four seem to me like he's trying to force jokes etc to get the +1's
Pg 5 - lots of smaller posts that add nothing to the conversation except indicating that posts are too long etc. I would have expected maybe one post to indicate that he wasn't going to read through the long posts etc and would come back to it. It just seem off to me.

Note that I called him out for the begging on this page
Pg6 - Seems like he's trying to make it seem as though its his playstyle, with a lack of meta there isn't too much to read into.

I will be the first to admit that I saw pg4 and then may have tunneled. My scumread of him was based MAINLY around the treatment of him from Jamie but the initial posts made me think that as scum he would be more driven to ensure his condition is fulfilled.

[Nephthys]

As for you, note first please that I called out Crimson very early on (Pg5)

Roughly, my logic was to give everyone one free +1 fishing post because I was seeing so many people doing it (Xorxes you and CFox were where I called it although a brief re-read indicates it may have just been you three) so I completely ignored that. The second one I then ignored as I don't think that you would actually expect people to +1 you for it. You also have more non-begging posts which makes me think that you just wanted the +1's as opposed to being conditional.

By no means is this perfect but it was the logic that I used

[Jamiet99uk]

I have two guns.

No role has two guns this phase.

I cannot mute you, but I will ignore anything you post this phase unless there's a wagon on you, in which case I will vote for it.

Do not ask me any further questions. Do not tag me in any posts. I don't care to hear from you.

[Jamiet99uk]

Or else @Jamie, seeing as we are both the most active here, what do you think of
- xorxes entrance, as the other member of our little scum group last game do you agree with me that he is different here and townier.
- RHK's read list

I think Xorxes is scum. I explained this in detail and voted him but you weren't interested.

I'll need a look at RHKs reads, let me check. I apologise, I was busy responding to all the flak you morons are shooting at me.

WRT your case against xorxes, from what I can see it is build on his post asking whether you were comfortable with all the roles you didn't ask about.

I personally don't find this scummy for the following reasons;
- You posted the question bank 5 minutes into the game, I would say therefore that you had those questions predetermined and could easily have slipped one in about your own role.
- You only asked about 8/36 roles listed in the PM doc, I don't this provides really any information had you answered Xorxes questions.
- Its a pretty weak push at PR fishing if you ask me

Overall the rest of Xorxes play overrides this one post to me. I think that post is more likely to gauge the depth that you understand the game to, it opens up critiques like the one I posted against you when you backed up my +1 post (parts of which I still think are valid)

Go back and re-read. There were several posts.

[Nephthys]

Also something I wanna point out, Rdr and Damo both had very similar opening posts yet Rdr seems to have gotten off while damo is being targeted. The only difference is that damo looks for +1's from equally confused people

Quotes for ref

Just want to say goodnight. Pretty bad time to start the game.

Also, that role doc is really huge, can someone with more time and a computer make a short version?

I haven't a clue about anything not having read all the PMs. [Obviously I've read my own].

Being lazy does anyone have a shortcut or a sort of precis list?

Please.

If anybody else is as confused as I am could you +1 me?

[Nephthys]

I think Xorxes is scum. I explained this in detail and voted him but you weren't interested.

I'll need a look at RHKs reads, let me check. I apologise, I was busy responding to all the flak you morons are shooting at me.

WRT your case against xorxes, from what I can see it is build on his post asking whether you were comfortable with all the roles you didn't ask about.

I personally don't find this scummy for the following reasons;
- You posted the question bank 5 minutes into the game, I would say therefore that you had those questions predetermined and could easily have slipped one in about your own role.
- You only asked about 8/36 roles listed in the PM doc, I don't this provides really any information had you answered Xorxes questions.
- Its a pretty weak push at PR fishing if you ask me

Overall the rest of Xorxes play overrides this one post to me. I think that post is more likely to gauge the depth that you understand the game to, it opens up critiques like the one I posted against you when you backed up my +1 post (parts of which I still think are valid)

Go back and re-read. There were several posts.

I just have and am coming up blank, either I am missing something or you somewhat tunneled. Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of them? Xorxes is rather light on posts so it wouldn't take you long.

[Jamiet99uk]

Or else @Jamie, seeing as we are both the most active here, what do you think of
- xorxes entrance, as the other member of our little scum group last game do you agree with me that he is different here and townier.
- RHK's read list

I have now read DemoRHK's read list, such as it is. I have no problems with it - although it hedges its bets, so who knows. Anyone could post a read list like that, at this stage.

[Nephthys]

Or else @Jamie, seeing as we are both the most active here, what do you think of
- xorxes entrance, as the other member of our little scum group last game do you agree with me that he is different here and townier.
- RHK's read list

I have now read DemoRHK's read list, such as it is. I have no problems with it - although it hedges its bets, so who knows. Anyone could post a read list like that, at this stage.

That's rather my point, its very vague and doesn't really seem to contribute anything. Do you think its possible that RHK is scum and trying to blend as posting content?

[Jamiet99uk]

WRT your case against xorxes, from what I can see it is build on his post asking whether you were comfortable with all the roles you didn't ask about.

I personally don't find this scummy for the following reasons;
- You posted the question bank 5 minutes into the game, I would say therefore that you had those questions predetermined and could easily have slipped one in about your own role.
- You only asked about 8/36 roles listed in the PM doc, I don't this provides really any information had you answered Xorxes questions.
- Its a pretty weak push at PR fishing if you ask me

Overall the rest of Xorxes play overrides this one post to me. I think that post is more likely to gauge the depth that you understand the game to, it opens up critiques like the one I posted against you when you backed up my +1 post (parts of which I still think are valid)

Go back and re-read. There were several posts.

I just have and am coming up blank, either I am missing something or you somewhat tunneled. Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of them? Xorxes is rather light on posts so it wouldn't take you long.

Given the nature of the subject matter... no. I refuse to do that. I refuse to re-open a discussion about who the town PRs are - and if you insist on doing so, I'll scum-read you for it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Or else @Jamie, seeing as we are both the most active here, what do you think of
- xorxes entrance, as the other member of our little scum group last game do you agree with me that he is different here and townier.
- RHK's read list

I have now read DemoRHK's read list, such as it is. I have no problems with it - although it hedges its bets, so who knows. Anyone could post a read list like that, at this stage.

That's rather my point, its very vague and doesn't really seem to contribute anything. Do you think its possible that RHK is scum and trying to blend as posting content?

That's certainly a possibility. I am not sure.

[worcej]

ALL LIES ARE INHERENTLY SCUMMY.
TOWN HAS NO NEED TO LIE.
LIES HARM TOWN.
FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

It's supposed to go 5-7-5. Here:

Some lies elicit
Reactions from other folks.
No alignment there.

Oh, apparently because Ghug eats Zultar's cum, I can't mute him. Shame.

Delicious hobbies
Are irrelevant to game
Is this your new leaf?

Still reading, but I literally just rocketed my beer reading this. I had to post a well done to ghug for those LOL!

[worcej]

Jamie really seems rabid this game. Like a rabid dog in heat. I don't know. I'm leaning more towards performance art, but could just be because he is one angry and insignificant little nutcase in real life. This is tough.

FWIW, every time I have seen Jaime in this rabid state, he has flipped town. Calm/collected Jaime is usually the sign for trouble.

[Nephthys]

Go back and re-read. There were several posts.

I just have and am coming up blank, either I am missing something or you somewhat tunneled. Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of them? Xorxes is rather light on posts so it wouldn't take you long.

Given the nature of the subject matter... no. I refuse to do that. I refuse to re-open a discussion about who the town PRs are - and if you insist on doing so, I'll scum-read you for it.

Allow me to clarify, by no means am I trying to bring up the discussion again.

I was just trying to figure out where you were coming from. After reading them in context there are total 5 posts, 3 from Xorx, 2 from you, Only the initial post from Xorx could be seen as PR fishing. This for me, is not enough to scumread him.

[Jamiet99uk]

I just have and am coming up blank, either I am missing something or you somewhat tunneled. Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of them? Xorxes is rather light on posts so it wouldn't take you long.

Given the nature of the subject matter... no. I refuse to do that. I refuse to re-open a discussion about who the town PRs are - and if you insist on doing so, I'll scum-read you for it.

Allow me to clarify, by no means am I trying to bring up the discussion again.

I was just trying to figure out where you were coming from. After reading them in context there are total 5 posts, 3 from Xorx, 2 from you, Only the initial post from Xorx could be seen as PR fishing. This for me, is not enough to scumread him.

Then you did not read them very carefully.

I refuse to say any more.

[LordQuas]

WebDip Mafia has developed a really shitty dynamic where anyone who participates early gets killed, and everyone who lurks lives until the end game. I'm sick of this shit. I am trying to foster participation, promote play, call out lurking, and ensure activity. What do I get? Suspicion and abuse.

well that's ironic