MINI MAFIA IV GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

Several people have either scum read me or said they would vote me but I haven't recieved any votes yet, given the smallness of the game I'm a little surprised no one pulled the trigger.

Since you gave us nothing to read you by, it would have been hard to justify a vote other than because it is anti-town to not try to show everyone you're town. If I have to choose between voting someone who gave enough to leave a towny impression and someone who left no impression at all, I would obviously choose the later. It's hard to detect truly scummy behavior on D1, but what you do D1 is important to judge you later, so doing nothing doesn't help town.

this is not scum xorxes

[brainbomb]

thats all.

vig Bozo and track one of tdh or the good ol doctor

[xorxes]

I also do not like how you came out of D1 town reading Jamie. Can you explain why you did not find anything suspicious about him D1?

No, I admit he was doing a good job of fooling me. It's harder to catch irrational players for having irrational reads. His cases were not very good but they were the kind of thing I expect from him.

[xorxes]

One thought I had was that Jamie wanted to get off damo because all three scum were on damo. This would make Nephthys and thdfrance the other scum. Both of their reasons for voting for damo were weak, and the thdfrance vote was after Jamie, and Jamie would not have expected him to vote with the other 2 scum.

Makes sense, but it could also be you or DrCJG that were voting for worcej, and Jamie jumped to me so as not to vote with whichever one of you was his partner.

If DrCJG or I were scum, there would not have been 3 scum on damo.

Exactly.

Considering Jamie said he preferred to lynch you over damo, he did a lot to make sure damo got lynched instead of you before moving his vote back to you at EOD.

I doubt he thought he could get me lynched at any point except maybe as a mad last minute rush.

[xorxes]

I am getting the feeling xorxes and brainbomb are the scum team, I no longer think shooting rdrivera is the best option.

You're not interested in hearing what rdrivera has to say first?

[bozotheclown]

walk me through why jamie busses xorxes there and makes a baiting remark

Bus him where? The reason why Jamie would bus xorxes "there" is the same reason he would bus him at any other time.

[bozotheclown]

I am getting the feeling xorxes and brainbomb are the scum team, I no longer think shooting rdrivera is the best option.

You're not interested in hearing what rdrivera has to say first?

I assume rdrivera will agree with me that he should not be shot.

[rdrivera2005]

I am getting the feeling xorxes and brainbomb are the scum team, I no longer think shooting rdrivera is the best option.

You're not interested in hearing what rdrivera has to say first?

Considering he doesn't want to shoot me anymore, I think he wants to hear me.

Still reading, now in the correct order, hope to be able to post something useful before EON.

[bozotheclown]

I also do not like how you came out of D1 town reading Jamie. Can you explain why you did not find anything suspicious about him D1?

No, I admit he was doing a good job of fooling me. It's harder to catch irrational players for having irrational reads. His cases were not very good but they were the kind of thing I expect from him.

@Bozo: In terms of Xorxes, I am persuaded by the arguments that DrCJG and Brainbomb have made. In addition, he enthusiastically joined in with your pointless hounding of Worcej, in a manner which seemed very opportunistic. I didn't get the feeling he genuinely suspected Worc with any great sincerity.

You did not find anything is this post explaining why he scum read you suspicious?

[bozotheclown]

One thought I had was that Jamie wanted to get off damo because all three scum were on damo. This would make Nephthys and thdfrance the other scum. Both of their reasons for voting for damo were weak, and the thdfrance vote was after Jamie, and Jamie would not have expected him to vote with the other 2 scum.

Makes sense, but it could also be you or DrCJG that were voting for worcej, and Jamie jumped to me so as not to vote with whichever one of you was his partner.

The concerns I has about this theory was that the Nephthys and thdfrance votes for damo came at times that I would not expect scum to join the top wagon.

[bozotheclown]

First of all my re-read of Ike was very short because he made only one post and it had no substance.

Second Brainbomb I am leaning town on you. You are not being loud or distracting. However when you are very reserved and calm, it does make me wonder... Townlean for now.

Tell us more about your scumread on Xorxes?

well nobody likes a question to be answered with a question.

but how do you feel about xorxes so far?

because all ive seen is him throw out a few short posts with little thought. he accused me of being too restrained which wasnt followed by any vote. in my opinion thats scum trying to identify if im a PR.

your thoughts? probably a bit heavy handed on my part but xorxes seems very surface level and lacking usual towny voice

I didn't answer your question with a question. I answered you, and then after my answer, I asked a question.

I am currently inclined to agree with you about Xorxes. Other than trying to trick me into some kind of reaction he could perhaps claim was a slip, he's been very surface-level.

Shall we vote for him?

This is about what I would expect from a Jamie, brainbomb, xorxes scum team.

[bozotheclown]

Not a lot to add at this point:

Strongest townreads are foodcoats, bozo and Nephthys, but it's not unthinkable that one of them could be scum.
Second layer: Jamiet and brainbomb.
Third layer: worcej and RagingIke, not very strong scumreads.
Scummiest: DrCJG and thdfrance

If you shoot me, and assuming Mafia kills worcej, then tomorrow it will be

bozo
brainbomb
DrCJG
foodcoats (Vig)
Nephthys
rdrivera

4-2 mylo. Not lynching would be pointless because the NK would then be foodcoats, so not very helpful.

I still don't have a clue who the scum are, but it's unlikely to be brainbomb, probably not bozo though I'm less sure, and of the last three if I had to guess right now I'd say Nephthys and rdrivera, but it could just as well be DrCJG.

What changed your opinion on Nephthys?

[DrCJG]

I, foodcoats, am the Vigilante.

*snipped*

I think we were better off with you not revealing until EON at which point you could just name a target because I think Jamie really believed BB to be doctor and the remaining scum team may have fallen for the same rouse and given Worcej another night.

That said, aim true.

My suggestion is rdr/thdFrance or Nephy.

I have xorxes as a townlean at this point, he would not be my suggestion.

[worcej]

I, foodcoats, am the Vigilante.

*snipped*

FWIW Food, you need to realize that 2 people are going to give you suggestions that are motivated to make you go elsewhere. Off who you feel is scum and deal with the ramifications afterwards - you are your own best judge of this than letting others manipulate.

[foodcoats]

I, foodcoats, am the Vigilante.

*snipped*

I think we were better off with you not revealing until EON at which point you could just name a target because I think Jamie really believed BB to be doctor and the remaining scum team may have fallen for the same rouse and given Worcej another night.

Actually, I may have massively misinterpreted something.

Do scum "visit" someone when they NK?

Ah fack...

[foodcoats]

I had it totally in my head that worcej's ability was no longer useful because all the roles are ID'd.

#shoot foodcoats

[foodcoats]

I, foodcoats, am the Vigilante.

*snipped*

FWIW Food, you need to realize that 2 people are going to give you suggestions that are motivated to make you go elsewhere. Off who you feel is scum and deal with the ramifications afterwards - you are your own best judge of this than letting others manipulate.

Yes, definitely.

I consider you town clear so it would be good to have your opinions...

[foodcoats]

##CALL GM

do the mafia have access to their QT all the time, or only during Night?

[foodcoats]

##CALL GM

is the vigilante's bullet used if the mafia NK the same target?

[yavuzovic]

##CALL GM

do the mafia have access to their QT all the time, or only during Night?

GM NOTE:
Only during night. During the day mafia cannot write on Mafia QT.

##CALL GM

is the vigilante's bullet used if the mafia NK the same target?

GM NOTE:
I don't think I can say that.