Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[xorxes]

I think damo might be scum. When I was scum last game I legit fear killed him because he was on fire with his play.

This is so stretching the truth.

N1 you killed bozo, so you didn't fear damo's D1 play all that much.
N2 you tried to kill brainbomb.
N3 you killed me (instead of damo, who was a CLEAR by then and I wasn't).
You only killed damo N4 I think, and he was a clear so it's not like you had a lot of options, the other two clears were brainbomb and y2k who were both playing for scum.

So no, that's not the reason you killed damo.

[yavuzovic]

Yes he did. We decided this after damo started to scumread us.

[xorxes]

Sorry, I haven’t read the last game. Though, if somebody draws scum back-to-back, I would certainly expect them to try to change their behavior significantly.

Can you describe the differences for someone who has not read the last game, and explain why you are ruling out purposefully changing behavior as an explanation?

Durga is right that ND is playing very different this game. Last game he was obviously faking anger and dumbness to an extreme and he is not doing that this game.

OTOH, last game was not exactly matching his earlier scum meta either, so I wouldn't townread him just because he is being different than last game.

[bo_sox48]

I think damo might be scum. When I was scum last game I legit fear killed him because he was on fire with his play.

This is so stretching the truth.

N1 you killed bozo, so you didn't fear damo's D1 play all that much.
N2 you tried to kill brainbomb.
N3 you killed me (instead of damo, who was a CLEAR by then and I wasn't).
You only killed damo N4 I think, and he was a clear so it's not like you had a lot of options, the other two clears were brainbomb and y2k who were both playing for scum.

So no, that's not the reason you killed damo.

You definitely paid attention to the game, but you are misconstruing how damo played. You thought so too, as is evidenced by this post in the god thread between your death and damo's the next night:

https://puu.sh/BQWVg/03d4588229.png

[xorxes]

I don't like the Yav push, as a non-native speaker too I didn't even noticed it and one of Demon or Damo could be scum. Or even Jamiet that pointed it and didn't vote.
##vote Demon for now as Damo is already under some pressure.

I noticed the "slip" but I immediately filed it under Yavu being Yavu. He may be scum, but definitely not because of this. I don't think Jamiet is scum for pointing it out either, that's what he does. Demon and/or damo latching on to that could be scum.

[xorxes]

Werid cause a kudos is like an attaboy how is that not answering his question? You are like at Jamie level nitpicking as well hmm

My guess is that you ND never has attended any class and tried to learn any foreign language, so I give that to you that you have not any fair chance to understand Yav's problems taking part in this game conducted in a for him foreign language. Myself I have attended classes for 4 different foreign languages, so I claim that I understand quite well the struggle Yav must go through to take part in this game.

AND I ADMIRE YAV 100% FOR THIS!!

(and he is learning a lot in the process as well)

Please stop repeating this. I feel like a dog learned sitting.

I felt like +1'ing this. People going overboard about your "improved" English are almost worse than the people who don't make allowances for not speaking like a native.

[Foxcastle]

Vote Count 1.1

ND (3) - RagingIke297, DrCJG, Jamiet99uk
damo666 (2) - Vecna, ND
yavuzovic (2) - DemonRHK, damo666
rdrivera2005 (1) - Peterlund
bo_sox48 (1) - Durga
thdfrance (1) - xorxes
Jamiet99uk (1) - Balki
peterlund (1) - Tom Bombadil
ghug (1) - thdfrance
No-Lynch (1) - Szpoti

ND is currently set to be lynched.

Bozotheclown, bo_sox48, ghug, Squigs44, and worcej have not yet voted. DrCJG and ghug have not met the minimum posting requirements.

There are 24 hours left in Day 1.

[Foxcastle]

That was vote count 1.2, actually. But who's counting? Not this GM, apparently...

[xorxes]

I think damo might be scum. When I was scum last game I legit fear killed him because he was on fire with his play.

This is so stretching the truth.

N1 you killed bozo, so you didn't fear damo's D1 play all that much.
N2 you tried to kill brainbomb.
N3 you killed me (instead of damo, who was a CLEAR by then and I wasn't).
You only killed damo N4 I think, and he was a clear so it's not like you had a lot of options, the other two clears were brainbomb and y2k who were both playing for scum.

So no, that's not the reason you killed damo.

You definitely paid attention to the game, but you are misconstruing how damo played. You thought so too, as is evidenced by this post in the god thread between your death and damo's the next night:

https://puu.sh/BQWVg/03d4588229.png

I didn't say damo didn't play well last game. I said ND wasn't that scared of him until N4, so comparing with what damo has done halfway through D1 this game does not make that much sense.

[xorxes]

@Squiggs, you were very easy to catch last game as a very talkative scum. Why are you not giving us anything this game so we can properly read you?

[yavuzovic]

@ghug, I don't think uclabb is scum. Please remove your vote and come back to the game.
Same for @CJG

[xorxes]

I townread the following (in no particular order):
...
thdfrance
...

Could you pinpoint what you find towny about thdfrance?

[ND]

"So no, that's not the reason you killed damo."

Uh, wrong.

[xorxes]

@ghug, I don't think uclabb is scum. Please remove your vote and come back to the game.
Same for @CJG

ghug told us he was having RL issues so I'm cutting him some slack for now, but I definitely want to hear more from the Doctor too.

[xorxes]

"So no, that's not the reason you killed damo."

Uh, wrong.

Well, you were not in much fear of him N1, N2 and N3, were you?

[ND]

I think damo might be scum. When I was scum last game I legit fear killed him because he was on fire with his play. His reads this game are indicative of low effort and bs. His vote on yav is a pile on it vote. His play is scum play. [][]vote damo

Can you flesh out your thoughts about his play this game more?

I understand that you are holding him to a high standard, but...nothing has really happened in this game yet. It strikes me as early to draw conclusions based on a general lack of productivity.

DId he come out of the gates firing last game in the first 20 hours? Have you ruled out the possibility that he just hasn't found any inspiration or time yet in the first part of this game?

1) I already gave my opinion on his play. What's your opinion on his play?
2) "nothing has really happened" Wrong. 16 pages have happened. It's not like we are joking and paling around on page 1 bro.
3) I am able to draw as much of a conclusion on his play so far as he has been in publishing a reads list on everyone's play. Did you question him on how he was able to make concrete reads on the player list. I mean, not much has happened, right? So why me and not him?

[xorxes]

Xorxes is Greek.

Consider his monicker.

You are unwittingly right about one thing here. xorxes is the Lojban spelling of the Spanish name Jorge (English George as you all know) from the Greek name Γεωργιος (Georgios) which was derived from the Greek word γεωργος (georgos) meaning "farmer, earthworker", itself derived from the elements γη (ge) "earth" and εργον (ergon) "work".

OTOH, Damian is also a name with Greek roots...

[ND]

"So no, that's not the reason you killed damo."

Uh, wrong.

Well, you were not in much fear of him N1, N2 and N3, were you?

Well your forgetting about N0 and yeah, your wrong, because when I realized he was a threat I took him out and killed him. Town Damo is good, but this isn't town damo. I see nothing that makes me think he is town right now.

[xorxes]

I'm not lynching xorxes this phase. Whether he's mafia or not becomes painfully clear very quickly, no need to jump the gun on it because he's amazing as town

Thank you for pointing this out. I was going to do it myself, but it's always better when someone else does it. Vecna doesn't know how to read me when I'm town. Last game he was convinced I was scum too, he usually thinks I'm scum irrespective of whether I'm scum or town. rdrivera does too to some extent, but he has the excuse that I reciprocate.

Unless we have a sensible Doctor and/or town box-holder I'm going to die N1 or N2 anyway, so no point wasting a mislynch on me.

[Balki Bartokomous]

No way. They're going to fearkill me. You're small potatoes, and only effective with an OP equalizer, in my experience.