Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[ghug]

Alright brain there’s no way they’ll ever think we’re scum together now

I was townreading your outburst and now I'm not.

No, I acted *dismissively* towards brainbomb because I knew he was going to death tunnel me and it won’t even be fun because I’m just a VT and I can’t fuck with him

Yeah, I get that you were doing that. I thought you seemed stilted while doing it.

The above doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that ghug and chaqa are unaligned especially given the below:

Okay but to be fair, Frog did similar posts last game, did he not?

He does seem slightly different this game, not necessarily in a bad way. I have him as null.

##VOTE sweetandcool

My gut hasn't failed me yet.

I think if scum!ghug votes chaqa for the tantrum there is fear that town will pile on and ghug has to make up a reason to unvote, so they go fish for limbait instead once one appears?

I thought the outburst itself was towny. I scumread behavior before the outburst, which in turn provoked the outburst.

The comment about being scum with brain worried me because Chaqa likes to be that brazen talking about his teammates, but the interaction as a whole tells me they're unlikely to be scum together, so I'm back to just townreading Chaqa for the outburst.

[ghug]

Okay so what was the connection between your thoughts there? Why did you ask me about Diplomacy?

I like to ask new players who seem smart that question. Most mafia players are terrible at diplomacy and have large egos, so it garners interesting responses. Discussion of last game reminded me that I hadn't had that opportunity.

Can you give me a full reads list with explanations by the time I check the thread again?

ghug - Town, role PM
Chaqa - Town, outburst
Sweet - scum, vibes
Bunny - scum, trying to provoke me
everyone else - null, boringness

I'm willing to attribute it to your having played somewhere weird before, but asking people to force reads lists early in the game is bad.

[foodcoats]

Okay, thank you for answering. How do you motivate yourself to read this thread?

I see we are out of sync, but nonetheless… I enjoy reading it. I likes the game. It’s fun.

I also find that the WebDip group is particularly fun. I’ve tried playing on other sites and have concluded it’s not a game I really care to play outside this meta.

Okay that's interesting, can you elaborate on this a little bit?

The only other thing I can add, which is not really game relevant, is that I find I am more assertive and willing to enter into constructive conflict in other areas - in particular, at work - when I am playing Mafia, so it actually has net benefits on real life.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Cmon guys, participate! Cant just be me, Frog, and Chaqa…

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Cmon guys, participate! Cant just be me, Frog, and Chaqa…

Wow look at that, perfect timing food!

[foodcoats]

Will-chaqa- (a non poster or damo)

Does that glove feel right?

I'm thinking

I feel like you arent actually thinking.
Conclude something.

You had no problem doing conclusions with BK last game. Gimme some ideas here. What is scum doing right now?

Is one of the scum lurking damo, Vecna, or bozo?

[foodcoats]

I'm thinking

I feel like you arent actually thinking.
Conclude something.

You had no problem doing conclusions with BK last game. Gimme some ideas here. What is scum doing right now?

I'm confident chaqa is scum and after that I don't know where to look. It would make sense if Will is scum fabricating their read on me but I think they're more likely to just be silly town. I keep going over ghug because they remind me of bob from last game.

Why are you specifically confident that Chaqa is scum?

[Chaqa]

Vecna is in this game? Where is he?

Also I miss Bona

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Vecna is in this game? Where is he?

Also I miss Bona

Where Bona

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So guys… what now? No new developments…

[foodcoats]

So guys… what now? No new developments…

I would hammer kill bozo, damo or Vecna.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So guys… what now? No new developments…

I would hammer kill bozo, damo or Vecna.

I hate non posters >:[

[BunnyGo]

So guys… what now? No new developments…

To the GT:

I’m enjoying Just’s engagement. I’d need to go back and reread to see if he’s SAID anything of consequence besides prodding and enthusiasm. I think he has. But not one word has stuck.

In other thoughts:

Ghug is wrong that I try to neg and needle him as scum. I try that when I can’t tell his alignment too. The game that recently comes to mind is when he was scum and sadly my strongest townread until late. But late in the game I started nudging him.


Jamie seems very town here. Might be my strongest townlean for now. He’s not angry, but also not scared or fronting.


Food has been all over in my mind.

HamB has been absent. This is weird. I expect when he finally rolls town, he’ll be so excited to play. Might worry he gets miskilled early? Does he lurk to avoid that? I’d expect him to jump in head first.


Froggy…I dunno. Never had to read him much last game since I got got early. He certainly seems more cautious. Maybe he knew last game would become mechanics?

Chaqa seems towny to me. But that’s based on knowing he enjoys scum and honestly believing he’s not having fun.

Sweet…hmm…why the hell is he voting me? I really don’t get it. That’s not necessarily scummy, but I haven’t understood his ramblings about it either.

And heart. Wherefor heart? Him standing up to froggy seems towny? I don’t think he’s easy to push around, but I think he’d be more likely to acquiesce to a request for reads rather than say “no”. Hmmm. Unless they’re both scum? That’s interesting….


Froggy-heart-lurker-and ghug? That’s a reasonable team guess? Will have to go read with that in mind later.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So guys… what now? No new developments…

Froggy-heart-lurker-and ghug? That’s a reasonable team guess? Will have to go read with that in mind later.

This is wrong, there are only 3. Is this an intentional “townslip”? Or is this just a mistake?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

SETUP INFORMATION:

Roles:
11 Town
1 Cop
1 Doctor
9 Vanilla Towns

3 Mafia
2 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Godfather

[BunnyGo]

So guys… what now? No new developments…

Froggy-heart-lurker-and ghug? That’s a reasonable team guess? Will have to go read with that in mind later.

This is wrong, there are only 3. Is this an intentional “townslip”? Or is this just a mistake?

To the GT:


Oh that’s right. Kaka and worcej were memeing that kaka was fired for that error pregame.

Well…nobody will believe that’s an honest townslip. But we know the truth.

But why did Just only call out the error and not say anything of substance? This is starting to worry me. That said he’s doing much better. Wish he’d commented on the reads more than just their amount.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Froggy-heart-lurker-and ghug? That’s a reasonable team guess? Will have to go read with that in mind later.

This is wrong, there are only 3. Is this an intentional “townslip”? Or is this just a mistake?

To the GT:


Oh that’s right. Kaka and worcej were memeing that kaka was fired for that error pregame.

Well…nobody will believe that’s an honest townslip. But we know the truth.

But why did Just only call out the error and not say anything of substance? This is starting to worry me. That said he’s doing much better. Wish he’d commented on the reads more than just their amount.

ok, if you want me to comment on it, just ask XD

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

To the GT:

I’m enjoying Just’s engagement. I’d need to go back and reread to see if he’s SAID anything of consequence besides prodding and enthusiasm. I think he has. But not one word has stuck.

In other thoughts:

Ghug is wrong that I try to neg and needle him as scum. I try that when I can’t tell his alignment too. The game that recently comes to mind is when he was scum and sadly my strongest townread until late. But late in the game I started nudging him.


Jamie seems very town here. Might be my strongest townlean for now. He’s not angry, but also not scared or fronting.


Food has been all over in my mind.

HamB has been absent. This is weird. I expect when he finally rolls town, he’ll be so excited to play. Might worry he gets miskilled early? Does he lurk to avoid that? I’d expect him to jump in head first.


Froggy…I dunno. Never had to read him much last game since I got got early. He certainly seems more cautious. Maybe he knew last game would become mechanics?

Chaqa seems towny to me. But that’s based on knowing he enjoys scum and honestly believing he’s not having fun.

Sweet…hmm…why the hell is he voting me? I really don’t get it. That’s not necessarily scummy, but I haven’t understood his ramblings about it either.

And heart. Wherefor heart? Him standing up to froggy seems towny? I don’t think he’s easy to push around, but I think he’d be more likely to acquiesce to a request for reads rather than say “no”. Hmmm. Unless they’re both scum? That’s interesting….


Froggy-heart-lurker-and ghug? That’s a reasonable team guess? Will have to go read with that in mind later.

Ghug- I can’t say whether or not Bunny is doing this, but personally I haven’t noticed it.

Jamie- I am null on Jamie. I don’t understand why Bunny thinks he is so town. He has markedly less participation than two games ago (I didn’t pay attention to last game cuz I got murked), but that may be because no one has argued with him

Food- I think food is town. He seems to be playing a similar way to his last (town) game, but not in a way that feels intentional, like Frog

Hamilton- I have seen Hamilton around, but he hasn’t given me much to go on. Idk what this means, but I want to remember it

Froggggg- Am not certain of his mafia-ness. Could be completely wrong. Heard it here first, I am probably going to switch my vote.

Chaqa- Chaqa is null. He has done town things and scum things that cancel each other out.

Sweet- as Bunny said, his scumtell: “If I want to throttle sweet through the screen, he’s town”

Heart- no opinion on heart. Barely even noticed he was here. Maybe lurking? (I think i’m using that term right)

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

For the record, I think sweet is probably the most likely to be scum. Every time I voted him in my past 4 games, he was scum, so I think I have an idea about what he does.

[Jamiet99uk]

I can already feel myself spinning my wheels a little, I feel like I have the rocks mapped out but I can't tell which ones to look under.

@jamie

You weren't much help last game so maybe offer some guidance here on where to look?

I was scum last game. It was literally my objective to be as little help as possible whilst not allowing anyone to notice that that was the case.

Look under as many rocks as you can! Who (of the people in this game) did you find the hardest to read last game, and how do you feel about any of those people now?

Also, why did you demand exactly 5 reads from Chaqa, and why did you then apparently not look carefully at his posts to glean whether he had provided any reads?

Frogster has not answered this.

@Frog King?