Mafia XXXIV Game Thread - Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

[RagingIke297]

@Jamie, there should be one on Page 24 and page 25 now

[yavuzovic]

Tell me a reason to vote ND (or anyone), I want to change my vote because I can't remember why did I vote Balki. But I don't want to vote an innocent.
According to my experiences from M33, if we vote scums, people would be convinced we are not scum. Find me someone to vote.

[VashtaNeurotic]

##vote Balki

Told you I feel ND is town so...

[brainbomb]

This is where im at now.

Jamie scum
Thamrick scum
Vash scum

Theres no way vash is town here

[VashtaNeurotic]

This is where im at now.

Jamie scum
Thamrick scum
Vash scum

Theres no way vash is town here

And why is that?

[Jamiet99uk]

## Vote Balki.

[brainbomb]

EVERYONE GET ON JAMIE

[DemonRHK]

Tell me a reason to vote ND (or anyone), I want to change my vote because I can't remember why did I vote Balki. But I don't want to vote an innocent.
According to my experiences from M33, if we vote scums, people would be convinced we are not scum. Find me someone to vote.

Uhhhh...you don't remember why you voted someone? Really? And now you want a guilt free lynch?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Balki, I took great care to explain my entire argument against you in a page long post, and then you respond "point by point" by quoting one section of it, and asking me questions that are clearly answered in another section of it.

Not true. I still don't understand your argument. You're still asserting things and not providing evidence for things.

Questions aren't the end all be all of mafia, you can come up with any borkdilly response if you're mafia, you're capable of that. Questions do help town, but accusatory questions over things that don't warrant it confuse people into thinking there is really something to warrant the accusation. These are the types of questions you've been asking all game, even in the post refuting me you do it.

So, this is a good example. You keep asserting that I'm asking questions over things that don't warrant it. I mean...I don't know how to begin to respond to that. Quote these accusatory questions. Explain why I am tugging at something that doesn't warrant tugging. To throw up these vague generalities on the page does not contribute to anyone's understanding.

Actions speak louder than words,

Blah blah blah.

I don't see town reasons for you to do what you did.

How about -- I had questions about peoples' alignments. So I engaged with them and asked them to explain their actions?

You decided to push a line of questioning with RHK immediately after he got voted for that made him look worse, but then walked away. That is piling on without commitment, that sets you up to start a wagon without taking any responsibility for it. That is very good if you're scum, but worthless and counter productive to your own reads if you're town.

Nonesense. I aksed him questions and came away thinking he was town. I even said so. I'll defend him right now if people want to lynch him. I did the opposite of what you are saying. I told people that I thought Demon was Town. You're confused.

You push jamie, when everyone, even you, can agree he isn't a good lynch today.

Why would you say that I agree Jamiet isn't a good lynch today? I think he is a good lynch today. He's literally the only guy I've voted for. You are not making any sense.

He's done nothing but be an idiot, pushing yav a bit for being confused, and then pushing lurkers. Dumb does not equal scum.

II agree that dumb doesn't equal scum. I'm voting Jamiet because I read him as insincere. Are you reading my posts at all?

He is an easy vote to push, but not a good one in the slightest.

Why is Jamiet "an easy vote to push"? You just said two sentences ago that "everyone, even you, can agree [Jamiet] isn't a good lynch today"??? So, is he an easy vote to push, or does everyone agree he is a bad lynch?

Again, you don't make sense here, and I don't understand how you are arriving at your conclusion. Conf bias is real.

Now that you're under pressure, you're doing nothing but trying to undercut the arguments against you, and aren't explaining yourself.

I am responding to your case. Is that something I should not be doing?

Why is questioning demon right after he got voted for out of the blue by tom a good move for town?

I had questions for Demon, so I asked them. The timing is irrelevant. Evaluate the questions themselves and judge whether they advance the game for town or not. But the central plank of your argument here is that I was pushing a Demon lynch. The opposite is true.

Why is jamie the scummiest person here?

Eh, it's day 1. It's hard to tell who's scum. These are tonal reads, and they are fraught with error, but we have to do the best we can. I think Jamiet, Darg, and Brain are most likely to flip scum.

Why throw darg down as a possibility with 40mins till we lynch and no votes on him?

Cause I wouldn't mind lynching him. I don't like that he vanished in the face of pressure. 40 minutes is lots of time.

[brainbomb]

Theres definetely scum on balki!!!!!!

[Balki Bartokomous]

Wow -- I think I'm the leading wagon now. Unreal.

[Rjmcf]

I think the most help I can be right now is to ask people to get off the people who only have 1 vote. Make a decision and don't let scum dictate the lynch.

Can I ask why staying on votes of 1 would let scum dictate the lynch? Not that you’re being sus, I just don’t get the reasoning.

Also yavuz, surely that can’t be the worst telegraphed scum ever? I’m reading yavuz as two now, purely because no one can be that dumb.

[brainbomb]

Vash hasnt even been reading or playing and hes trying to fucking lynch balki?????

[ND]

I don't think Balki is scum. I'm not going to vote for him.

##VOTE JAMIE

[Rjmcf]

“Every one on Jamie! Everyone on Balki!”

That is super unhelpful B.B.

[yavuzovic]

Uhhhh...you don't remember why you voted someone? Really? And now you want a guilt free lynch?

Come on, I told I don't want guilt free lynch, how can you understand this!

[DemonRHK]

This Balki push from a ton of people that haven't been providing much is disgusting.

[brainbomb]

Wagon # Voters
ND (5)
snowy801 bozotheclown Rjmcf Foxcastle thamrick
Balki Bartokomous (4)
MeanLaQueefa yavuzovic Maniac VashtaNeurotic
Jamiet99uk (4)
Balki Bartokomous DemonRHK brainbomb ND

[Balki Bartokomous]

Can anyone Cliff Notes the case on ND for me? I don't have any particular notion there, but I don't want to die.

[VashtaNeurotic]

Vash hasnt even been reading or playing and hes trying to fucking lynch balki?????

Except for when I reread the game before my first real post?