MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

[ND]

@Chippie: It has been a long D1, but when we pause and reflect isn't it more useful for town discourse to have an opportunity to discuss until phase end? Barring some major slip or something then I could see ending the phase early.

[ChippeRock]

@Chippie: It has been a long D1, but when we pause and reflect isn't it more useful for town discourse to have an opportunity to discuss until phase end? Barring some major slip or something then I could see ending the phase early.

We're looking at 2 end votes right now lol.

[ND]

True

[dargorygel]

@ND do you have any thoughts/opinions about Brain's claim?

[ND]

@ND do you have any thoughts/opinions about Brain's claim?

It's a good question and my answer is not a very good one. I just don't know. It's kind of confusing how this is all set up, but at the end of the day all we have is his words on it. You know? Everyone has to make their own decision based on that and the rules of the game.

[Ezio]

Darg why do you care what ND thinks about brains claim? Trying to get him to make other verifiable statements?

[Ezio]

Oh also:
When discussing stones/roles, it is imperative we qualify every statement we make. I'm going to use brainbomb as the example because he's already claimed.
If I say "I think brainbomb has the stone he claimed" this cannot be verified by use of the reality stone.

If is say instead "brainbomb has the stone" the mafia can check that. We naturally want less information for the mafia.
Unless you have 100% proof of something, qualify it, particularly when talking about the SK.

[Ezio]

@Ghug
you said my question was terrible. I disagree. The question had what I felt to be an obvious answer. I think most people who were following the game would have a similar opinion. If any of the people I asked that question to had given me a different answer I would have either had something drastically change my view of the game, or give me a good reason to scumread the person answering it, because they're clearly not interested in solving the game.

It had a low chance of doing anything productive at all, but it also doesn't seem like it could ever cost. If it did it, it could have hit big. Is that a bad bet?

[brainbomb]

##Vote Flash

[brainbomb]

Why does bo think yavuz is scum?

Holy crap bo is scum. Like hes not even angry theres 40 pages. Hes lovin it.

##Vote bosox

[Vecna]

I didn't like Y2K vote on Fox, following a PR is a good way to lynch a town without taking responsibility. I didn't like Snowy vote too, but he is already a wagon.
I can't see any basis for a Dargo wagon and maybe I was wrong about Fox as his reasoning to vote Dargo is atrocious.

##vote y2kjbk

And this is why I never get that Rdrivera can actually win games as scum. Hes so blatantly town when town, and so obviously just lurking and just saying random stuff while scum.

Yes, this is me putting Rdrivera in the town bin.

[damo666]

On reflection I now think Fox's reaction to the Worcej affair comes across as more VT than scum.
Flash still hasn't moved his vote off Brain so ##vote Flash

[Vecna]

Some of Foxcastle's later responses since that big wall of text are making me question my initial scum read on him. I want to fight my inclination to tunnel. I'm looking through some other players now via the bot, and the next player that struck me as somewhat suspicious is Jamiet99uk. A lot of his posts so far seem to be offering valid opinions, but they aren't too insightful or controversial. I get the sense from reviewing his posts thus far that he picked snowy and foxcastle to lightly push suspicion, not that he actually has started to suspect them. I will ##VOTE Jamiet99UK.

Not a bad post at all. Makes one wonder why Thomas jumps on the vote Y2K only after this.

[yavuzovic]

Why does bo think yavuz is scum?

Holy crap bo is scum. Like hes not even angry theres 40 pages. Hes lovin it.

##Vote bosox

No he is town ( I believe ) I think he tried to see my reaction under pressure. Otherwise he would come back after his work. I don't think he still works. It's been 12 hours. I'll keep bo on my towns list but don't have a concrete evidence so I can move it easily.

[yavuzovic]

GM note: mafia know each other but can’t talk before N1. (Also hi I’m the co mod feel free to PM me with questions )

Hi. Avendi

[Vecna]

I would like to point out that BismarkAlive, yavuzovic, and Ezio have had pretty much bare minimal posting with no real input to the game (Save for 1 detailed post by Ezio) and haven't even explained their voting decisions as well.

And I would like to point out that this guys only posts with substance where freaking out about my p1 vote on him, followed by pointing at other people posting little.

[Vecna]

##CALL GM

When sent their role PM, does Gamora know they have a stone, or not?

VT's with stones know they have stones if they have stones

I hate D1s



I see 83727261848 pages of posts every open.
People love writing when they don't have information but when they get valuable information, they start to think before writing and they write less. Whatever.

##vote Foxcastle
Because q qqqq qqqq QQQQQ.

##CALL GM - Rule violation! Rule violation!

You should read rule 11 more carefully

Aka, Gamorra doesnt actually have the stone, brainbomb is full of shit as usual, move on.

[Vecna]

Agreed Yav, more important (at this stage) to nab scum rather than SK which is why my vote remains on Fox. In fact assuming brain's claim is true then SK is nullified as long as we ensure top wagon is at least 3 ahead of brain. Of course the easiest way to ensure that is simply to avoid voting for brain. So Flash I suggest you move your vote.

This is total nonsense, the SK is gonna be gathering stones quickly, and even without his nk he will be a powerhouse that can manipulate the shit out of everything.

SK is a real big danger here.

This is also why we need BIG wagons. if we dont have at least a lead of 3 on any wagon, we can never randomly hit the serial killer with a lynch.

We need to be more single-minded. By sheeping me for example

[Vecna]

I feel like yavuz is getting bussed.

I feel like bo wrote randomly, like:
Uftdu ufhcoy hoyd ouf

[damo666]

Vecna, SK can only get stones by being in the lynch party right? The bigger the lynch party the easier to hide, the smaller it is the easier to narrow down.