MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[brainbomb]

Peter falling closer to null based on how his read on me and Jamie is a shallow,reason for him to become a (4).

Flash your overall demeanor is haughty and I like it. But you really have a long way to go as far as understanding the players here. Youll probably never find a player as psychotic as me. I have zero ability to behave.

You gave out most of a read on page 17 which appeared to be part joke. You claim to have omniscient ability to pick out mafia...and have thrown a few names around without much detail. Care to expand on your reads to us and share with us mere mortals your infinite mafia wisdom?

I mean it just comes from my gut reads. Its how I see things. I dont apply any reasoning to my play other than tone and vote behavior. Theres nothing else I care about

[brainbomb]

So in response to lurking - I work and live in PST, most of these phases are during my work day and I was trolling around because it was mostly D1 (not informative during first half) and then we had the brain vs Jamie crap... Gotta admit - getting caught up has also been a drag... a lot of 'mean spirited' comments (granted I've seen the ire in other games) and it's getting old, so let's focus on the rage-bears for reads first:

brainbomb - LEAN TOWN: I spent a lot of time trying to focus on a possible 'code' in your first votes, but failed to do so. That ended up with me leading to the conclusion I am reading super heavily into your troll... I think there is legit a lot of bad blood between Jamie and you from the simulator and past games that I am more prone to think you two just needed to duke it out.

Jamie - SCUM LEAN: Another person I spent way to much time analyzing, only I was more focused on your laser focus on brain and the werewolf thing. Then I remembered M36 and you laser focusing on others, so I come to the conclusion that this is just what you do. This might sound mean, but you just are a confrontational person and that's how you play too. You provoke people into slipping at the expense of a personal, non-game relationship. But in this games case, your attacks have come quicker than normal...

Now that those are done, now my other concrete reads:

DrCJG - SCUM LEAN: Mostly feeling this because your playing out relatively the same as last game and I knew you were scum. You are very good at blending in and ducking/weaving. Obviously my vote is not staying on you though, but as I said I do respect your ability to blend so you're on my D2 and beyond list...

Foxcastle - NULL: Totally don't blame you for the vote, I do give off the 'lurking' image because it takes me hours to write these long posts (Newb game members will know that). I hope this list will satisfy your concerns of my content. I have you as null because a vote on DemonRHK is worthless - the logic of preventing a mod kill sounds good on paper, but the more revealed roles we see the better so that PRs can gather worthwhile information quickly.

teacher2 - TOWN LEAN: Once again, you're killing it with ideas/sugestions/mathing (although your math was off because SK cannot be killed at night). I think you're still trying to help everyone again, which puts you right onto my town list now that I am not trying to railroad you. Props for being a Poker fan (I am a casual crap player myself). I was actually on board with your tracker idea but didn't really voice it because several people were against it quickly.

peterlund - NULL: While others find you scum, I can't make much sense of those votes for now other than the lurking comments. I think you've provided little (other than your amazing bot) to have a read off of...

Now hopefully I have helped some of you. Though I see the wagon coming for me, I will accept the fate that I get because of work/lurking to write this.

Tone = clean
Observations = unique

I dont think hes scum. None of this is too reachy

These were worcejs reads
I was being asked about why I townread worcej
His tone is fine, his reads dont seem very tryhard or reachy, even if I disagree with them.

You really ought to read what post preceeds a statement and make a basic logical leap. Itll save you much time and confusing having to ask

[damo666]

Maybe peter is scum and (some of) those jumping from a peter vote to a Dip vote were protecting him. I'm too lazy to work it out who that is right now; anybody care to step up?

[damo666]

I also like squigs idea of nominating who SK should kill (and agree with Bb that it doesn't matter whether it is him or whoever it is). I nominate Peter.

[flash2015]

Peter falling closer to null based on how his read on me and Jamie is a shallow,reason for him to become a (4).

Flash your overall demeanor is haughty and I like it. But you really have a long way to go as far as understanding the players here. Youll probably never find a player as psychotic as me. I have zero ability to behave.

You gave out most of a read on page 17 which appeared to be part joke. You claim to have omniscient ability to pick out mafia...and have thrown a few names around without much detail. Care to expand on your reads to us and share with us mere mortals your infinite mafia wisdom?

I mean it just comes from my gut reads. Its how I see things. I dont apply any reasoning to my play other than tone and vote behavior. Theres nothing else I care about

So you have nothing then?

How can you then criticize arguments when you can't provide an argument at all? I should uncritically be trusting Vecna, Foxcastle, Ike or you just because?

[brainbomb]

You gave out most of a read on page 17 which appeared to be part joke. You claim to have omniscient ability to pick out mafia...and have thrown a few names around without much detail. Care to expand on your reads to us and share with us mere mortals your infinite mafia wisdom?

I mean it just comes from my gut reads. Its how I see things. I dont apply any reasoning to my play other than tone and vote behavior. Theres nothing else I care about

So you have nothing then?

How can you then criticize arguments when you can't provide an argument at all? I should uncritically be trusting Vecna, Foxcastle, Ike or you just because?

I can criticize anything I goddamn well please.

[bozotheclown]

Guys,
If BB is mafia, then him being such a big target from D1 would motivate him to SK claim. If he is SK, then the only incentive to keep him around is if he makes kills based on what the town wants. So we should probably use that to our advantage and decide on who we want BB to Target if he is the SK. In a previous game I played, President Eden claimed SK and he was an effective town vig throughout the game.
We either need to vote at night who we want him to kill, or lynch him ASAP.

brainbomb has a tradition of making fake claims.

[bozotheclown]

I probably won't have much time to scum hunt until after EON, but right now I think I would #SKVOTE Yav based on the scummy things people have pointed out, including what BB has posted (even if I think BB is scum)

Just to clarify, my #SKVOTE is who I want BB to kill if he is SK. It has no actual power in the game.

yavuzovic always says things that get him scum read, but I think his suspicion of brainbomb in real here. I also think yavuzovic believed there was a mafia day chat.

[bozotheclown]

Maybe peter is scum and (some of) those jumping from a peter vote to a Dip vote were protecting him. I'm too lazy to work it out who that is right now; anybody care to step up?

Wouldn't this imply that scum were on peter's wagon? If they were trying to protect peter they had better options than getting on his wagon.

[Jamiet99uk]

I like his peterlund read, not wild on his teacher read. Teacher might be playing a powerwolf game rn.

Who is "he" in this context?

I never once said he in this post?

Ugh, ok captain literal.

When you say you like "his" Peterlund read, whose Peterlund read do you mean? To whom doth "his" refer?

[flash2015]

I mean it just comes from my gut reads. Its how I see things. I dont apply any reasoning to my play other than tone and vote behavior. Theres nothing else I care about

So you have nothing then?

How can you then criticize arguments when you can't provide an argument at all? I should uncritically be trusting Vecna, Foxcastle, Ike or you just because?

I can criticize anything I goddamn well please.

OK, I am convinced. That is good enough for me then.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok NVM you meant Worclej I get it.

[brainbomb]

So you have nothing then?

How can you then criticize arguments when you can't provide an argument at all? I should uncritically be trusting Vecna, Foxcastle, Ike or you just because?

I can criticize anything I goddamn well please.

OK, I am convinced. That is good enough for me then.

Yup.
So thoughts on my scum buddies?

[Jamiet99uk]

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[yavuzovic]

If I'm killed this night, I want to see teacher on gallows.

[flash2015]

I can criticize anything I goddamn well please.

OK, I am convinced. That is good enough for me then.

Yup.
So thoughts on my scum buddies?

I can't see why I need to go away and put some work in now when you can't be arsed to.

[flash2015]

OK, I am convinced. That is good enough for me then.

Yup.
So thoughts on my scum buddies?

I can't see why I need to go away and put some work in now when you can't be arsed to.

:%s/put some work in/show my work/g

[brainbomb]

If I'm killed this night, I want to see teacher on gallows.

I put in my kill on you. So it wont be teacher killin u jusy fyi

[peterlund]

Guys,
If BB is mafia, then him being such a big target from D1 would motivate him to SK claim. If he is SK, then the only incentive to keep him around is if he makes kills based on what the town wants.

The reason BB "hardclaimed" SK is to give town a credible explanation for why he was not NKed N1. It is not anything more than that. BB in not capable of hardclaiming anything. The word means nothing when he says it, and that we all know. He probably retract his "hardclaim" first thing D2.

[brainbomb]

This is hilarious. I love people spinning their wheels trying to justify scumreading me game to game.

Im.claimimg a role absolutely guaranteed to get me lynched and theyre still trying to be mad