MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[kgray]

And we’ve already established you didn’t like me asking you questions about how you’re playing, thus I must be scum because I am starting ‘drama’ and not contributing.

That's not true worcej. I don't like you continuing to berate me for saying I'm bad at the game, especially when I haven't recently been saying I'm bad at the game. It's just noise.

If you have questions about anything I'm doing that are both a) things that actually happened and b) alignment indicative, then go for it.

Catch up. I have already asked you this.

Did you just tell me to catch up on a crosspost?

[ghug]

I thought you scumread Hamilton because you thought he was acting fake?

Why don't you think scum!Jamie would push town!darg like this? It seems reasonable to me.

Scum usually aren't so bold as to waste political capital pushing someone they know is a PR.

Hey. I'm Rivera's spokesperson, you don't get to answer for him.

Also I think that depends very much on who is scum, and I think Jamie could easily do it.

Yes, I'm rivera's spokesperson.

It's definitely a WIFOMmy thing, and it's less strong of a point with Jamie than with most people, but it still sways me some.

[kgray]

Scum usually aren't so bold as to waste political capital pushing someone they know is a PR.

Hey. I'm Rivera's spokesperson, you don't get to answer for him.

Also I think that depends very much on who is scum, and I think Jamie could easily do it.

Ghug is tryng to get your job.

I think Jamiet could do it but not do it this game. I can see him doing it if he was all around the thread as a power wolf, but not in this game were his presence isn´t memorable at all.

Well he can't have it.

And okay, I think that's reasonable.

[rdrivera2005]

I thought you scumread Hamilton because you thought he was acting fake?

Why don't you think scum!Jamie would push town!darg like this? It seems reasonable to me.

Maybe floating isn´t the right term. It´s not fake either. It´s like he want to look like he is making an effort. Today he looks a lot more organic, maybe because we interacted a lot more.

If Dargo is the cop, end hammering him will attract a lot of attention and not the good type (it has already atracted).

Thoughts on damo endhammering then?

I already scumread Damo, but not for this. It was in the context of Dargo´s message to get end votes to declare his scan.

[worcej]

Who do you know who actually posts a lot more as scum?

I think lack in quantity can be made up for if people actually have reads and original thoughts. When normally-active people don't have those things, it's suspicious.

Why are you trying to take my opinions and stir them in a direction not intended by the context?

What is defined as an original thought versus not?

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with me trying to mischaracterize what you're saying.

And I can't believe you're asking me to define the word "original" when my point was clearly that people who are normally very present and active but are not contributing (in *content* not just in number of posts) is suspicious.

You are asking me to point at someone specifically who is posting more as scum. Where did I explicitly say I am seeing that behavior?

I am asking you what you define as an original thought. Like, how is this thought: “Kgray has demonstrated invalidating and deflective responses to people comparing her to her prior scum games.” Is this original or unoriginal to you?

[worcej]

That's not true worcej. I don't like you continuing to berate me for saying I'm bad at the game, especially when I haven't recently been saying I'm bad at the game. It's just noise.

If you have questions about anything I'm doing that are both a) things that actually happened and b) alignment indicative, then go for it.

Catch up. I have already asked you this.

Did you just tell me to catch up on a crosspost?

Did I?

[kgray]

Why are you trying to take my opinions and stir them in a direction not intended by the context?

What is defined as an original thought versus not?

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with me trying to mischaracterize what you're saying.

And I can't believe you're asking me to define the word "original" when my point was clearly that people who are normally very present and active but are not contributing (in *content* not just in number of posts) is suspicious.

You are asking me to point at someone specifically who is posting more as scum. Where did I explicitly say I am seeing that behavior?

I am asking you what you define as an original thought. Like, how is this thought: “Kgray has demonstrated invalidating and deflective responses to people comparing her to her prior scum games.” Is this original or unoriginal to you?

Oh my god. I didn't say you said you saw it here. I was just asking who you know that does that, since it is apparently a metric you have for scumreading people, but it seems unlikely that many people would do that. You are trying so hard to start a fight with me.

That would be an original thought, yes, since you never once made an argument anywhere close to that. It would be a bad thought, though, since nobody here has made a comparison to my prior scum games so it'd be impossible for me to invalidate that or deflect away from it.

[kgray]

Catch up. I have already asked you this.

Did you just tell me to catch up on a crosspost?

Did I?

ffs worcej if you have an actual relevant question, and not some hypothetical semantics question, let me know. Otherwise I'm done here.

[brainbomb]

I feel like im gonna end up defending celaph now and hes gonna also flip scum just because the universe sucks

[worcej]

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with me trying to mischaracterize what you're saying.

And I can't believe you're asking me to define the word "original" when my point was clearly that people who are normally very present and active but are not contributing (in *content* not just in number of posts) is suspicious.

You are asking me to point at someone specifically who is posting more as scum. Where did I explicitly say I am seeing that behavior?

I am asking you what you define as an original thought. Like, how is this thought: “Kgray has demonstrated invalidating and deflective responses to people comparing her to her prior scum games.” Is this original or unoriginal to you?

Oh my god. I didn't say you said you saw it here. I was just asking who you know that does that, since it is apparently a metric you have for scumreading people, but it seems unlikely that many people would do that. You are trying so hard to start a fight with me.

That would be an original thought, yes, since you never once made an argument anywhere close to that. It would be a bad thought, though, since nobody here has made a comparison to my prior scum games so it'd be impossible for me to invalidate that or deflect away from it.

First, not starting a fight. Second, you bet I am interacting with you - you’re here and actively posting and are a voter making me the top wagon.

An example of someone who would post a lot suddenly and catch my eye and get a little scumdar is anyone who typically posts low quantities.

To the last paragraph - not true. I brought up you are capable of employing good scum theater and you got deflective and invalidating right away.

[worcej]

Did you just tell me to catch up on a crosspost?

Did I?

ffs worcej if you have an actual relevant question, and not some hypothetical semantics question, let me know. Otherwise I'm done here.

You don’t like sarcasm much do you?

[worcej]

Here is another thought: kgray gets annoyed when she is asked questions, yet she always asks questions of others as her ‘content’.

[brainbomb]

worcej is actually looking good in this debate

[kgray]

I brought up you are capable of employing good scum theater and you got deflective and invalidating right away.

Because it was completely irrelevant to this game. There was nobody I could have been performing scum theater with, so you just randomly brought up something I'd done in that past to shade me without it having anything at all to do with my alignment here.

[worcej]

worcej is actually looking good in this debate

Since your now here, I can poke at you. Your read of me is shit, but let’s call it a gun vote.

What are you going to learn, other than my alignment, from my death? Would my death influence any other alignment once you see I am town?

[ghug]

I feel like im gonna end up defending celaph now and hes gonna also flip scum just because the universe sucks

Did you find his burst of participation earlier acceptable?

[kgray]

Here is another thought: kgray gets annoyed when she is asked questions, yet she always asks questions of others as her ‘content’.

I'm not annoyed with questions, I am annoyed with you intentionally trying to get me frustrated. Show me literally anywhere else that I've been annoyed by someone asking me a question.

[worcej]

I brought up you are capable of employing good scum theater and you got deflective and invalidating right away.

Because it was completely irrelevant to this game. There was nobody I could have been performing scum theater with, so you just randomly brought up something I'd done in that past to shade me without it having anything at all to do with my alignment here.

This is absolutely not true - someone brought up if we were witnessing scum theater and I brought up yours and Chaqa’s performance in the past.

How is bringing up that someone is good at a task, that is subject of thread conversation, irrelevant?

Also - wouldn’t referencing you in that way be an original thought? I thought that is important and is contributing.

[brainbomb]

worcej is actually looking good in this debate

Since your now here, I can poke at you. Your read of me is shit, but let’s call it a gun vote.

What are you going to learn, other than my alignment, from my death? Would my death influence any other alignment once you see I am town?

my entire goal was to antagonize you, get you into the mode where I know you are town. and it sometimes gets very toxic but it mostly looks town when it happens.

you got there

[kgray]

Here is another thought: kgray gets annoyed when she is asked questions, yet she always asks questions of others as her ‘content’.

And my 'content' has plenty of my own opinions so you can fuck right off.