Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[rdrivera2005]

because the plan is misguided and dysfunctional and has a pretty good chance of us autolosing?

Come on, how a Maniac plan wouldn't work as a charm?

Maybe suggest another plan, like everybody vote Worcej in a random order.

In fact, this remember me a Monty Python thing, about a witch and a duck or something like that.

why are you so upset about worcej votes? got some secret knowledge that he isnt the alien?

I am not upset, I am suggesting we do the same thing we are doing with Bob, with Worcej. Is probably better then voting Bob as I don't think Bob is scum.

[dargorygel]

GM ANNOUNCEMENT
By way of announcing and apologizing.
Tomorrow is my mother-in-law's 91st birthday. Family had planned a party LAST year at this time, but some virus shut down nursing homes and airlines. So it got canceled. Or, as it turned out, postponed. A few days ago the nursing home where she lives announced that they will accept visitors. SO the family is gathering from around the country, and I drove up today (a few hundred miles) to take part in the party, AND do that "go through parental stuff" that we've been putting off.

I love mafia.

But as I learned from "The Middle," you do for family.

I thought I would have interwebs here. But the old family home does NOT have wifi. So I will be more absent than I thought and expected.

Apologies to you all, and especially to ND.

Eden has agreed to step in for a couple of days to take my spot.

I'll try to check in from time to time.

[worcej]

GM ANNOUNCEMENT
By way of announcing and apologizing.
Tomorrow is my mother-in-law's 91st birthday. Family had planned a party LAST year at this time, but some virus shut down nursing homes and airlines. So it got canceled. Or, as it turned out, postponed. A few days ago the nursing home where she lives announced that they will accept visitors. SO the family is gathering from around the country, and I drove up today (a few hundred miles) to take part in the party, AND do that "go through parental stuff" that we've been putting off.

I love mafia.

But as I learned from "The Middle," you do for family.

I thought I would have interwebs here. But the old family home does NOT have wifi. So I will be more absent than I thought and expected.

Apologies to you all, and especially to ND.

Eden has agreed to step in for a couple of days to take my spot.

I'll try to check in from time to time.

Dude, obviously go enjoy family. You do so much for this community and deserve any and all time away you need.

[worcej]

Come on, how a Maniac plan wouldn't work as a charm?

Maybe suggest another plan, like everybody vote Worcej in a random order.

In fact, this remember me a Monty Python thing, about a witch and a duck or something like that.

why are you so upset about worcej votes? got some secret knowledge that he isnt the alien?

I am not upset, I am suggesting we do the same thing we are doing with Bob, with Worcej. Is probably better then voting Bob as I don't think Bob is scum.

Also, bad call. You need to be on damo.

[damo666]

@Maniac I am interpreting 'the next time you post' as after the person in the queue in front of you has had an opportunity to vote following this rule.

So, so far

Maniac voted Bob
Jamie posted but not voted
Fox voted Bob
rdr voted Bob (albeit out of turn)
damo hereby votes Bob
worcej next to speak
Vecna
ghug

##vote Bob

I'm not counting Damo in my threshold for whether I think scum have ratified our choice.

I agree with this. The threshold should be 7 including me.

[BobMcBob]

@Maniac I am interpreting 'the next time you post' as after the person in the queue in front of you has had an opportunity to vote following this rule.

So, so far

Maniac voted Bob
Jamie posted but not voted
Fox voted Bob
rdr voted Bob (albeit out of turn)
damo hereby votes Bob
worcej next to speak
Vecna
ghug

##vote Bob

I'm not counting Damo in my threshold for whether I think scum have ratified our choice.

I agree with this. The threshold should be 7 including me.

well worcej already declined, and i don't intend on voting myself

[damo666]

Vecna and I confirming the use "nothing happens" as a non cure result as good as guarantees Vecna and I cannot be alien.

[damo666]

I'm not counting Damo in my threshold for whether I think scum have ratified our choice.

I agree with this. The threshold should be 7 including me.

well worcej already declined, and i don't intend on voting myself

Yes. Five so far with 2 to speak. Unless both vote you we can assume you are not alien.

[Vecna]

Vecna and I confirming the use "nothing happens" as a non cure result as good as guarantees Vecna and I cannot be alien.

the gm answers this to anyone asking them the question, so this clears nothing for noone

[damo666]

Morning Vecna

[Vecna]

##vote damo

[damo666]

Vecna and I confirming the use "nothing happens" as a non cure result as good as guarantees Vecna and I cannot be alien.

the gm answers this to anyone asking them the question, so this clears nothing for noone

Would an alien conduct a [false] scan and declare a negative result thus reducing infectee pool? Not very likely is it?

[BobMcBob]

I agree with this. The threshold should be 7 including me.

well worcej already declined, and i don't intend on voting myself

Yes. Five so far with 2 to speak. Unless both vote you we can assume you are not alien.

5 so far including you, with 2 to speak
you already missed the threshold
now only 1 left to speak, and still only 5 on me

[damo666]

Ok Vecna is scum.

Bob is not alien.

The only question is who is scumpartner and who is alien, worcej mafia and alien ghug or vice versa.

Alien worcej would surely have voted Bob.

So, woŕcej must be scum partner with Vecna and ghug must be the alien.

If Vecna is town and has either let Bob off the hook or not forced scum ghug into a reveal then his vote for me is the worst play in Mafia history.

##vote ghug

[BobMcBob]

Vecna and I confirming the use "nothing happens" as a non cure result as good as guarantees Vecna and I cannot be alien.

the gm answers this to anyone asking them the question, so this clears nothing for noone

Would an alien conduct a [false] scan and declare a negative result thus reducing infectee pool? Not very likely is it?

actually it is pretty likely once you had declared you had it
you didnt use it in a remotely townie manner, instead as a bargaining tool
and if you were alien i would fully expect you to pretend to use it on an infectee, thus reducing the chances of your infectee dying

[damo666]

the gm answers this to anyone asking them the question, so this clears nothing for noone

Would an alien conduct a [false] scan and declare a negative result thus reducing infectee pool? Not very likely is it?

actually it is pretty likely once you had declared you had it
you didnt use it in a remotely townie manner, instead as a bargaining tool
and if you were alien i would fully expect you to pretend to use it on an infectee, thus reducing the chances of your infectee dying

Yeah it could have been used like that. I don't have the devious alien mind to think of it.

Why early in the game did I offer myself to be herbed or whatever it was?

[BobMcBob]

Would an alien conduct a [false] scan and declare a negative result thus reducing infectee pool? Not very likely is it?

actually it is pretty likely once you had declared you had it
you didnt use it in a remotely townie manner, instead as a bargaining tool
and if you were alien i would fully expect you to pretend to use it on an infectee, thus reducing the chances of your infectee dying

Yeah it could have been used like that. I don't have the devious alien mind to think of it.

Why early in the game did I offer myself to be herbed or whatever it was?

you were already widely scumread and a likely target, and it could potentially deflect it to someone else and gain you some towncred

[Maniac]

@Fox - I can't see you being alien at this point. You're either the shaman orscum, so I'm going to ask you to make a case on who you think could be the alien and make an ordered list to see if we can get eight people agreeing with you.

[BobMcBob]

Ok Vecna is scum.

Bob is not alien.

The only question is who is scumpartner and who is alien, worcej mafia and alien ghug or vice versa.

Alien worcej would surely have voted Bob.

So, woŕcej must be scum partner with Vecna and ghug must be the alien.

If Vecna is town and has either let Bob off the hook or not forced scum ghug into a reveal then his vote for me is the worst play in Mafia history.

##vote ghug

uh, damo
if vecna is scum what do you think that means about his vote on you?

[Jamiet99uk]

So if we're following the plan, we conclude that Bob is not the Alien and that scum have communicated this to us, yes?

##VOTE DAMO