MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6521 Post by Fluminator » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:24 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:20 am
There might still be a way it is auto if you stop trying to hammer.
To our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.
Don't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?
I don't see it yet. Can you explain?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6522 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:25 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:20 am
There might still be a way it is auto if you stop trying to hammer.
To our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.
Don't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?
Think about it from our POV. If we had an auto without killing you tonight it means there’s an auto with killing you.

I get you have to fight this if you’re scum. But if you’re town, you should see my point and end hammer yourself.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6523 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:26 am

Fluminator wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:24 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 am


To our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.
Don't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?
I don't see it yet. Can you explain?
If you kill in the non-cleared, it would only be delaying auto if I were mafia.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6524 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:26 am
Fluminator wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:24 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 am


Don't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?
I don't see it yet. Can you explain?
If you kill in the non-cleared, it would only be delaying auto if I were mafia.
Yes but that’s different from preventing auto if we vote you and you’re VT

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6525 Post by e.m.c^42 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am

##unend I want to see bozo attempt talking his way out of this.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6526 Post by e.m.c^42 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am

Lmao

Go, bozo, go.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6527 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am

aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:25 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 am


To our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.
Don't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?
Think about it from our POV. If we had an auto without killing you tonight it means there’s an auto with killing you.

I get you have to fight this if you’re scum. But if you’re town, you should see my point and end hammer yourself.
You are wrong though, because if you kill me you will only have 4 clears and 5 non-clears D7 after the mafia kill celaph.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6528 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
##unend I want to see bozo attempt talking his way out of this.
Sure but I think that’s impossible.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6529 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:28 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
##unend I want to see bozo attempt talking his way out of this.
Thank you.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6530 Post by e.m.c^42 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:30 am

aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
##unend I want to see bozo attempt talking his way out of this.
Sure but I think that’s impossible.
I'm only 14 pages behind now. Would like to be here for next phase change instead of backreading and missing my second EOD lol

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6531 Post by Fluminator » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:31 am

No, at this point, we only lose if aaro scans a mafia tonight, and the remaining mafia dodges if you're not mafia.

If you're town I'll tryhard and solve it. Just endhammer yourself lol.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6532 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am

Bozo here are the questions that you need to answer to avoid being day killed. I think they're impossible and you're smart enough to recognize that if you're town.
  1. From my POV, why should we kill any of the non-clear over you?
  2. From my POV, can you see why you look very scummy? If so, is there ever a reality in which you aren't voted out eventually? Given that, why is there a disadvantage to being voted out now?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6533 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am

aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
##unend I want to see bozo attempt talking his way out of this.
Sure but I think that’s impossible.
I might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6534 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:35 am

Fluminator wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:31 am
No, at this point, we only lose if aaro scans a mafia tonight, and the remaining mafia dodges if you're not mafia.

If you're town I'll tryhard and solve it. Just endhammer yourself lol.
If you hit a mafia today, it is auto, if not, the same situation exists D7.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6535 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:35 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
##unend I want to see bozo attempt talking his way out of this.
Sure but I think that’s impossible.
I might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
No problem. If it helps, there's a basic symmetry argument that shows voting someone else out is no worse than voting you out purely based on mechanics. So if there is an auto with voting out someone else from the non-clears, then there's an auto with voting you out.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6536 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:36 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:35 am
Fluminator wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:31 am
No, at this point, we only lose if aaro scans a mafia tonight, and the remaining mafia dodges if you're not mafia.

If you're town I'll tryhard and solve it. Just endhammer yourself lol.
If you hit a mafia today, it is auto, if not, the same situation exists D7.
This argument relies on the fact that you're town which is something only you can know for sure

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6537 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am
##unend I want to see bozo attempt talking his way out of this.
Sure but I think that’s impossible.
I might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
OK, it is not auto either way if you scan one of the mafia tonight.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6538 Post by President Eden » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:38 am

aarodactyl wrote:
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As an aside, I feel very bad for HR. They spent a lot of time on that final post. I'm pretty sure it was a big part of them getting NKed, so I'm glad for that. However, everything they wrote is irrelevant now. Also after bozo, the next 5 most scummy people on their list are clear now.
LMAO GET BODIED HR

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6539 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:38 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am
aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am


Sure but I think that’s impossible.
I might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
OK, it is not auto either way if you scan one of the mafia tonight.
But since I know I am town, it is auto if you vote someone else and hit a mafia.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6540 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:39 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:38 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am


I might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
OK, it is not auto either way if you scan one of the mafia tonight.
But since I know I am town, it is auto if you vote someone else and hit a mafia.
Bozo, you're smart enough that you know this isn't an argument that holds any weight to us. Literally any other person in the non-clear section can say that.

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