MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

@EMC - this is a rare time no one would complain if you hammer voted brain and disappeared again.

[e.m.c^42]

@EMC - this is a rare time no one would complain if you hammer voted brain and disappeared again.

I wanna be the last end vote :D

[Chaqa]

FWIW, I think it's possible Brain just flips VT here. But he is probably scum. I'd say 60/40 scum vs VT.

@HB - make sure you put your N1/N2 scan info in your EoN post tomorrow. Preferably right before EoN, but as close to it as you can.

[Chaqa]

@EMC - this is a rare time no one would complain if you hammer voted brain and disappeared again.

I wanna be the last end vote :D

We have six hammers on brain. We need three more. There's no reason not to hammer.

Inb4 "Chaqa is scummy for wanting to hammer" - no, I just don't want to spend two days on a foregone conclusion. We should aim to hammer in the next 9 hours so it's before the phase shift time.

[e.m.c^42]

Also top form calling your shot.

In same vein of feeling since EOD, not getting what this means lol

[worcej]

Why don't you want to hammer here, worcej?

I am not against it, but want to understand what is our motive to hammer.

[worcej]

OK, but those read like very weak pushes, and it is very likely someone was bussing ghug.

I don’t disagree that ghug was for sure bussed, but I had all the time in the world to move off him and didn’t because I legit scumread him.

Do you think I would bus and not move when people were making Bona happen? If I was scum, bussing ghug wasn’t going to improve my position on needing to be flipped because a majority of the case is dependent on ND’s behavior. Then, it gets worse becAuse ghug was lazy-voting my slot on D1, which draws it’s own level of skepticism on my alignment.

Simply put - if I was scum with ghug, I would not have bussed him in any way due to how tied together our slots are.

If you were bussing ghug, it would look bad to switch your vote to Bonatogether to save ghug. Also, your argument for why you would not bus ghug was only from the perspective of ghug flipping first, which did not seem particularly likely at the time you voted for ghug D2.

Incorrect, I could've easily swapped because at one time I was one of only 3 votes on ghug and could've made it only 2.

Fair on the second point, but I am just being honest with you that is how I would've played if I was scum.

[worcej]

##vote Brainbomb
##end

I'll make it easier for anyone to want to pull the trigger themselves so we can speed this along. The sheer amount of votes and lack of dialogue about other options makes me not want to waste my time.

I do think BB is a VT here though...

[Hamilton Brian]

Why don't you want to hammer here, worcej?

I am not against it, but want to understand what is our motive to hammer.

I have a tendency to not feel great about hammers. I like the thought of offering a bit more time for discussion. This vote on BB is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

[worcej]

Why don't you want to hammer here, worcej?

I am not against it, but want to understand what is our motive to hammer.

I have a tendency to not feel great about hammers. I like the thought of offering a bit more time for discussion. This vote on BB is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Exactly, and I don't see why it's so forgone, other than to smack him for making dumb fake claims like he always does.

[damo666]

FWIW, I think it's possible Brain just flips VT here. But he is probably scum. I'd say 60/40 scum vs VT.

@HB - make sure you put your N1/N2 scan info in your EoN post tomorrow. Preferably right before EoN, but as close to it as you can.

brain could be vt but if he is he knows he has to go, he has hammered

[damo666]

I am not against it, but want to understand what is our motive to hammer.

I have a tendency to not feel great about hammers. I like the thought of offering a bit more time for discussion. This vote on BB is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Exactly, and I don't see why it's so forgone, other than to smack him for making dumb fake claims like he always does.

The scum team will have discussed its inevitabiliyy last night and decided they may as well bus him and sensible town will vote him so it is foregone and that's why.

[damo666]

Why don't you want to hammer here, worcej?

I am not against it, but want to understand what is our motive to hammer.

I have a tendency to not feel great about hammers. I like the thought of offering a bit more time for discussion. This vote on BB is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Everyone has now posted. There will very probably be no more meaningful discussion before the brainflip. Hammering is the right thing to do. One more required.

[Chaqa]

I am not against it, but want to understand what is our motive to hammer.

I have a tendency to not feel great about hammers. I like the thought of offering a bit more time for discussion. This vote on BB is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Exactly, and I don't see why it's so forgone, other than to smack him for making dumb fake claims like he always does.

Brain make a hard cop claim and then retracted. Hard claims cannot be retracted without penalty of being DK'd. This is that penalty.

I agree it's quite possible he's VT. But he has to go, regardless.

[damo666]

@EMC - this is a rare time no one would complain if you hammer voted brain and disappeared again.

I wanna be the last end vote :D

Your chance has arrived.

If you don't take it you're gonna look really bad.

[e.m.c^42]

@EMC - this is a rare time no one would complain if you hammer voted brain and disappeared again.

I wanna be the last end vote :D

Your chance has arrived.

If you don't take it you're gonna look really bad.

Woohoo!

[e.m.c^42]

##end

[Chaqa]

Uhh...

We need one more even counting EMC, as this uses the same-vote hammer votes (meaning brain's doesn't count towards the 9 needed). Also, EMC needs to cast a real vote as well before his will count, I think? At least for the bot.

[President Eden]

worcej looks like he knows too much if brainbomb is in fact town.

[damo666]

Uhh...

We need one more even counting EMC, as this uses the same-vote hammer votes (meaning brain's doesn't count towards the 9 needed). Also, EMC needs to cast a real vote as well before his will count, I think? At least for the bot.

Yeah. I erred. Brain's doesn't count. And yes EMC needs to actually vote as well as end.