M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Jamiet99uk]

The things that I said about her??

I'm in trouble for calling worcej a misogynist.

It seemed to me that you had been saying very rude things about Worcej's wife, no?

[Durga]

Durga, please don't leave. I am genuinely sorry that our community can be this toxic sometimes, especially, at times, toward female players. That's unacceptable and entirely unwelcome. The things that Worcej and Ghug said about you were out of order; I think they should apologise to you. It appears to me that President Eden did his best to reprimand them and has indicated that such conduct is not appropriate - with which I wholeheartedly agree. I have not read the last 20 or 30 pages, but if such abuse has continued then I think the GM should remove those people from the game. They have been warned.

You are a valued member of this community and I enjoy pitting my wits against you, just as I enjoy being on your team. You have your own way of playing, which not everyone appreciates, but for all some people might not like your style, it's a world away from the "playstyle" of Yoyo or Vash, which simply amounts to not turning up.

I hope you will reconsider your request to sub out.

The things that I said about her??

I'm sorry Ghug, have I cited your name incorrectly? I saw a post on Page 185 where it appeared to me that President Eden was asking both you and Worcej to stop being abusive. If I have misunderstood that exchange, I apologise.

No, Eden told me to stop because Chaqa was rude to you and I made a joke about worcej calling him a bitch for it

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok Ghug, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to cast any false aspersions about you.

[Jamiet99uk]

Nonetheless I repeat my genuine message to Durga that she's a valued member of this community and I think it would be a shame if she felt she needed to leave this game.

[Durga]

Oh pg 185, nevermind.

[Durga]

Nonetheless I repeat my genuine message to Durga that she's a valued member of this community and I think it would be a shame if she felt she needed to leave this game.

That's on PE. Pretty sure I broke his rule to shut up about it

[ghug]

The things that I said about her??

I'm in trouble for calling worcej a misogynist.

It seemed to me that you had been saying very rude things about Worcej's wife, no?

I happen to think saying that she doesn't love worcej is a great compliment.

I made a crude joke, which I regret, about worcej's obsession with insulting and belittling Durga while I was catching up, unaware that he was doing so in the thread at that very time. I was fairly included in the unfairly equivocal calling out of everyone in that argument.

More recently, I got upset with people (Bunny) for similar unfair equivocation.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm in trouble for calling worcej a misogynist.

It seemed to me that you had been saying very rude things about Worcej's wife, no?

I happen to think saying that she doesn't love worcej is a great compliment.

I made a crude joke, which I regret, about worcej's obsession with insulting and belittling Durga while I was catching up, unaware that he was doing so in the thread at that very time. I was fairly included in the unfairly equivocal calling out of everyone in that argument.

More recently, I got upset with people (Bunny) for similar unfair equivocation.

Ok, well, Bunny should probably refrain from that, and I'm sorry if I misunderstood.

[ghug]

Ok Ghug, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to cast any false aspersions about you.

No worries.

I'm sorry you didn't get to be a communist like ND.

[Jamiet99uk]

Nonetheless I repeat my genuine message to Durga that she's a valued member of this community and I think it would be a shame if she felt she needed to leave this game.

That's on PE. Pretty sure I broke his rule to shut up about it

Ok, well, if you genuinely think that, I suggest we all take a moment to draw breath, and wait for a GM to comment.

I can ping Darg on the Kouncil hotline.

To everyone - I'm genuinely sorry I've been less engaged today than before. I really do have a shit ton going on at work. Also today Pat Patterson died. He was just an old pro wrestler, but he's also someone I consider an inspiration because he was the first openly homosexual American pro wrestler. He came out in the 1970s which is pretty amazing given the culture of wrestling as a macho blue-collar form of sport/entertainment. So I worked late and then felt more like watching old wrestling matches and drinking beer than defending myself here.

[Fluminator]

I have to do it. Sorry Eden. I hope my post will help resolve things instead of enflame things further.

@Worcej
Please don't just assume I'm whiteknighting Durga. People who know both of us will know we've had quite a few arguments in the past about progressive culture and racism/misogynism/libertarianism/a lot of things over the years.

From my viewpoint you called her toxic and a bitch basically out of nowhere from a really tame post Durga made. Like extremely tame compared to what a bunch of players have been posting. I don't actually see what Durga has done that's been so bad.

You essentially called her a bad person irl and it's clear you were targeting her personally because you don't like her out of game. You 100% started it from my viewpoint and it's weird that a bunch of people are pretending you're both equally at fault in this case when the worst Durga has done has got offended you called her a bitch?

Please reread how you've been acting towards her and it might look worse and harsher than you remember or intended, and perhaps you'd understand where she's coming from?

[President Eden]

I'm going to open the floor up to discussion later, but until darg and I have given a formal statement to our liking on these events, the moratorium on discussing Durga's requested replacement and the circumstances leading up to it remains in place. You may privately message me with anything you wish for me to consider in deliberating my statement.

[Durga]

It's only requested insofar as I'm the one being told to shut up by the GM for making a joke about something that was rude af that I never even got an apology for. And fine, I don't need an apology, but I'm not going to shut up when people are allowed to say all those things to me and we all get the same shitty calm down message. So you might as well replace me because chances of me dropping this as the situation stands are low lol

[ghug]

It's only requested insofar as I'm the one being told to shut up by the GM for making a joke about something that was rude af that I never even got an apology for. And fine, I don't need an apology, but I'm not going to shut up when people are allowed to say all those things to me and we all get the same shitty calm down message. So you might as well replace me because chances of me dropping this as the situation stands are low lol

What if we just killed worcej?

[Jamiet99uk]

Guys I think Eden's request to temporarily stop talking about this particular issue applies to everyone - I know that both GMs are aware of the situation so please, give them a little time to discuss it.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not in charge here or anything (whaddaya think I am, some kinda godfather? I tells ya) but I suggest we either all take a time out, or go back to just talking about the game?

[Durga]

No we have to flip bunny lmao. There's no way he's town

[Jamiet99uk]

^ you're supposed to hear the bracketed line in Rodney Dangerfield's voice, if that helps.

[Durga]

^ you're supposed to hear the bracketed line in Rodney Dangerfield's voice, if that helps.

Please don't assume my voice

[Jamiet99uk]

No we have to flip bunny lmao. There's no way he's town

Ok, you'd prefer to continue the game for now, that's fine.

Given that I missed 20+ pages, why is Bunny definitely guilty? Did someone CC his Jailor claim or was there another reason?

Also, what is this Ghug keeps saying about Bozo scanning Yoyo?
I want Yoyo gone but... that's just Ghug's bullshit, right?