M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Vecna]

hi celaph. Are you having fun so far? Did you have any issues with the QT?

QT?

Don't worry about it. Good answer.

nice

doubt this is the type of shit bunny comes up with to fake

[brainbomb]

how do you feel about the top 6 highest posters vecna?

excluding yourself of course

[Vecna]

Let's kill ND then. I really disagree with people (Celaph, for one) who say that he's trying to solve or be productive or anything, he's just attacking people and scumreading everyone. And you're right, scum can hide behind it so they're never going to kill him.

Is this a scumslip lmao?

No... If he's town scum won't kill him because he's good for them, and if he's scum they can't kill him. Ergo scum will never kill ND.

Meh, last time he did this as town the scum team unilaterally decided to make the game more positive for everyone and NK him N1. He was some near unkillable doctor role (Jackyl/hyde game) and was just gambiting to attract NK's on himself.

The thing that gives me pause is, why would he think it would work with (insert scumteam size) scum, who is bound to have at least one person with memories from that game.

Its very possible he's just doing a scum gambit as well, since ND is quite a capable scum player. No idea if he'd have the balls to do it since he mustve known that he'd get the irritation of nearly everyone with a playerlist like this.

On a positive note: even after all the gloating in the game I mentioned that his brilliant ploy stopped not one but two NK's, ND was scum's greatest asset and help us push through many many miskills.

[Vecna]

I lowkey town read bunny, just off of general nice vibes, talking with celaph, and posting the game guide; ND, for trying to figure things out, even if he comes off as abrasive; teacon, almost entirely based off of post 941; and ghug/brainbomb, for asking about noobs' experience.

I think somethings up with Nep, although the fact that 3 people went after them within 2 minutes weirds me out (posts 111-113). Their explanation didn't sit right with me, but it's too early to call scum or just trying to screw with people.

Jamie's self imposed low posting also doesn't seem right to me - wouldn't it be better to get your thoughts out more? I call this soft scum, since it looks like he's trying to fly under the radar here.

Aarodaytal seems to be eager to get himself proven town, although I'd put that down to being new.

Celaph is trying to avoid pissing anyone off imo, but I think he's solid.

Everyone's sus of kgray seems to be off of meta knowledge, so I have no comment.

Yoyo, bozo, and Chaqa done jack after 2 days, although I would put this as slightly town, cause mafia are the ones who need to prove their non-scumminess, and they need a solid track record to come out on top against actual townies.

Damn, this might be up there with the most solid newby posts ive ever seen on this site. Very nice

[Vecna]

I don't especially buy ND 'just being himself' seeing as his attacks have gone beyond the usual people he always fights with and onto people like me who always had a tolerable and relatively amiable relationship with him, but maybe I just erased more about him from my memory

I dunno, with him from what I recall theres a clear trigger, escalation and resolution of his anger, it seems natural

What was the clear trigger/escalation/resolution of his anger that seemed natural to you in this game?

Oh, here we go. Finally some Kgray town posts

[Vecna]

I am going to sleep now.
When I wake up, my posting limit for the remainder of D1 will be set at 30.

Oh god please don't do this again.

Jamie trying to improve by talking less is great. Don't complain.

Do you already have a solid read on the slot? I sure dont

[Vecna]

Go back and check, and there was no initial trigger. What disagreements was who having?

How does that post make more sense from someone who knows ND is town? What part of it?

Oh wait I forgot about the scumslip thing. 24 straight hours of drinking...

kgray said that scum would never kill him, which sounds like it's assuming his alignment if you ignore the implied "[if he is town]".

Get out of here. First you think his comment is lame and now you're buying it? What happened to you never believing in scumslips?

Yep, town Kgray is in the building

[Vecna]

In my continuing attempts to bring out players, to my favourite: @kgray, do teacon and vecna still rate highly for you as scum? Why?

Your vote currently sits on ND. Why, when they're not a solid scumread of yours?

I didn't like Vecna's reaction to bozo's post. It just seemed like a bozo version of a shitpost and Vecna trying to make it out to be some distracting scumploy was kind of ridiculous, and made me wonder if he was just looking for reasons to keep moving his vote around. Not much else is bothering me since then.

Teacon's started asking more questions and isn't just talking about drinking, but so far I'm not really getting a very investigative vibe from him. Still, he's participating in the game more than he was so I'm down to null on him.

I think ND is pretty scummy and I also don't particularly like him.

Newest scumread is Neph, not getting good vibes from him at all.

You still didnt get it was a joke/sarcasm?

I stated he was distracting me from making fun of brainbomb over the wine thing

[Vecna]

I'm getting better vibes from kgray this game than last game.

Throughout or more recently?

[Vecna]

I think ND is pretty scummy and I also don't particularly like him.

Newest scumread is Neph, not getting good vibes from him at all.

Want to talk about ND and Neph with me? Can you convince me that either one has done something alignment indicative? Please try.

Sure, but you don't have to patronize me to get me to talk to you.

I think ND not having townreads when he's throwing around so many scumreads is suspicious. Like he's more interested in stirring up things than figuring out alignments. His personality is probably artificially reinforcing that opinion, though.

Neph's defense of ND (a response to HR) doesn't seem organic at all. He cited "triggers" that set him off, and said those triggers were disagreements he was having with some undisclosed people. I didn't see any triggers or disagreements that caused ND to start attacking people, let alone HR, and Neph later clarified that ND's tone changed when the topic of censorship came up, but that has nothing to do with what HR was talking about. Neph didn't seem to actually care what motivated ND's actions at all, which tells me he's not trying to figure out ND's alignment.

And just like that, Kgray goes in the never kill pile

[Vecna]

##vote neph

##vote Neph

[Vecna]

Work will be busy tomorrow.

Bunny and Bo (Jamiet) were early scumreads, but they're active enough I don't think they're worth daykilling day 1.

##Vote Hamilton Brian

Why no effort to try to read the slots as opposed to just noting their activity?

[Vecna]

I've wasted half of my day still trying to decipher Bozo's one post.

In 63 pages of shitposting, I have a hard time believing any townie spent more than 2 seconds deciding Bozo's weird post wasn't worth the time.

I like this point.

@Hamilton Brian — what exactly did you do with the half of your day that you describe here? Plug things into Google Translate? Print out Bozo’s post and drive it over to the local cryptography club meeting?

We’re you exaggerating in your post? Why?

For someone taking most arguments quite literal, I wouldve thought you might have deconstructed this comment as hard as Kgray's argument - and concluded that that post was made on page 6.

Most reactions to it were done quite a bit earlier than the timemark of 63 pages.

[Vecna]

To your first point, why else would you be asking about it?

If your second point is that I'm being a little presumptive in assuming that others know what BB means then you may be right that I should switch to Brain for clarity.

My second point was because when you cut out your post from my reply, I misremembered the context and assumed it was Vecna who'd said BB and you interpreted that as brain.

But now this is even weirder to me that you used BB as shorthand for brain when I haven't seen people do that much...

I always reference Brainbomb as BB and I think most vet people also do it.

Yeah, not to defend the newby, but BB = brainbomb and Balki = Balki

[Vecna]

I dunno, with him from what I recall theres a clear trigger, escalation and resolution of his anger, it seems natural

What was the clear trigger/escalation/resolution of his anger that seemed natural to you in this game?

Bruh I've already clarified I misspoke about the trigger and rephrased it to be about the conversation topic. Move on please

Confbias observation:

Nephtys meta analysis, as town way more serious sounding, not too involved D1, usually actually suspicious of me for a while. As scum, trying to come off a lot nicer, finding real things to talk about D1, when confronted about scummy behavior, will instantly lash out.

I think its decently clear what im seeing here. The Kgray argument was an interesting addition.

[Vecna]

morning veccy

morning bb

[brainbomb]

why does krispy kreme dark roast taste like pork ribs

[brainbomb]

I am left alone to wonder out loud at this moment; if scum are happy or nervous.

And I am left questioning a few of my townreads. namely flum and kgray.

but this ND wagon is dying and he did nothing since it formed

[Vecna]

i dont see how you could townread the Kgray slot before, but have doubts now. She only recently started her towntelling process, but did so quite convincingly in a way ive never seen her play as scum (and this tell has worked every game since I discovered it).

Would be interesting to see if she has a clue what it is

[rdrivera2005]

I am left alone to wonder out loud at this moment; if scum are happy or nervous.

And I am left questioning a few of my townreads. namely flum and kgray.

but this ND wagon is dying and he did nothing since it formed

I think ND wagon is strongly based on him being annoying then being scum, so him not posting is a good reason for the wagon to die.

Why you townread Flum? Kgray I am also townreading, but Flum gave me almost no impression.