M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
“Were you exaggerating...”
I hate when I can’t edit my autocorrect typos. It makes me crazy!
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
To your first point, why else would you be asking about it?
If your second point is that I'm being a little presumptive in assuming that others know what BB means then you may be right that I should switch to Brain for clarity.
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
Since they’re probably the hardest to read and will make the worst reads. So all in all, not great for town.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:13 amWhy do you think voting new players is a good town strategy?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:00 pm
In terms of reads, I think voting off the new players is a good town strategy to be honest. I’m not advocating for it at all, but it does make me think flum could be town. Also I already don’t really like ND but I also don’t like the push to vote them out already, since it could be scum trying to start a bandwagon (or whatever term you use here for that).
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
Thanks for clearly clearing that upFluminator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:06 amAlways doesn't necessarily mean always always.Maniac wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:37 amI was Nightkilled last game and without going over old games I’ve been nughtkilled before. Why are you lying?Fluminator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:49 amFOS Maniac as well, but he always gets daykilled anyway so not worried about him slipping through the cracks yet.
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
(1) If there's a point to stirring things up, then yes, it can be pro-town. I personally am not seeing a point to the way he's been attacking people. It doesn't look like he's using people's reactions to form his reads, since his strongest scumread is apparently Vash for being a low poster.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:12 am
On the other hand, (1) “stirring things up” and seeking conflict seems to me to be generally town-indicative, (2) ND’a general style seems to be quite confrontational, which suggests NAI, and (3) I think it’s generally easier for scum to throw out town reads because they know so many people are town.
I find the “other hand” points to be a bit stronger than your reasons for scum reading ND. Can you talk about how you weigh all this and how strong your convictions are here?
(2) Yeah I think his personality is NAI.
(3) This is a good point, in general. I could see his general abrasiveness leading to him having a scum style that does shade everybody (does he?), but maybe that's confbias.
My convictions aren't particularly strong and I wouldn't bet the game on ND being scum, but it's more than I have to go on for most people.
(1) It's not really that subjective, though? Neph said "The trigger was the disagreements they were having" and when asked who ND was disagreeing with he backed out of that and said the change in tone came with talking about censoring.Your explanation here sounds like you disagree with Neph’s description of what’s in the thread. That is — whether or not there were triggers that may have set off ND, and whether ND’s reaction to censorship fits into the “triggers” category.
I am not convinced by your reasoning here. First, I think the stuff you disagree with Neph on is pretty subjective. I don’t think Neph’s descriptions of the thread that you highlight are obviously wrong. Second, weak reasons and shifting explanations are not necessarily scum-indicative. Townies are flailing around. Their reasons can shift. Their articulations of their reasons can shift even more. You conclude that inaccurate or shifting descriptions of the thread seem “inorganic,” but I’m not sure the things you point to are more likely to come from a manufactured process (scum) rather than a sincere but flailing-around-in-the-dark process (town).
Thoughts?
(2) And it's not the inaccuracies I find inorganic, it's how it seems to me like he started with an assumption about ND when there wasn't anything in the game (that I found) that justifies that assumption. I get that you're saying townies flail around when they're trying to figure something out, but so do scum when they can't back up their statements. I'm feeling like this is more the second case.
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My second point was because when you cut out your post from my reply, I misremembered the context and assumed it was Vecna who'd said BB and you interpreted that as brain.celaph wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:23 amTo your first point, why else would you be asking about it?
If your second point is that I'm being a little presumptive in assuming that others know what BB means then you may be right that I should switch to Brain for clarity.
But now this is even weirder to me that you used BB as shorthand for brain when I haven't seen people do that much...
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
I don't think any of those statements is accurate, fwiw.aarodactyl wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:25 amSince they’re probably the hardest to read and will make the worst reads. So all in all, not great for town.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:13 amWhy do you think voting new players is a good town strategy?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:00 pm
In terms of reads, I think voting off the new players is a good town strategy to be honest. I’m not advocating for it at all, but it does make me think flum could be town. Also I already don’t really like ND but I also don’t like the push to vote them out already, since it could be scum trying to start a bandwagon (or whatever term you use here for that).
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
I am struggling to catch up, it seems like I always have 10 pages to read.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:49 amI also can't wait to hear more from RDR.
Still see worce as town? On as scale of 0 to 5, where would they rate?
Do you have a read on why ND is leading a kill of Vasht so early in the game?
On an off-game note, would love to get your 1st person perspective of Brazilian politics. I think it's a crime that the social studies textbooks we had in the 70s declared the cultivation of the rainforests a plus for mankind.
Yes, I still think Worcej is likely town. Maybe a 3.
Like I said to bb, there is no reason to scum read Vash over 2 posts other then um being lurking. But I think it's better you ask ND.
I would love to discuss Brazilian politics, but this isn't probably the appropriate place. Rainforest preservation is a big issue with our current lunatic government that denies global warming and climate changes and are bound to big agricultural lobbyists.
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
Yoyo is usually a big lurker and was frequently replaced or modkilled, as far as I remember.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:23 amWhy? What's different about them?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:38 pmVash posted nothing significant so I can't see why you are talking about him.
If we want to policy lynch a lurker, Yoyo is a far better choice.
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
Maybe because Dargo is a GM? And Vashta have been mentioned a lot more then his appearance. Weird post.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:07 amI looked at peterbot, and they seemed like the ones that people expected more posts from. Vashta and Dargo haven't been mentioned in ages.ghug wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:04 amWhy did you pick these three as the ones who've done jack?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:57 am(blah blah blah)
Yoyo, bozo, and Chaqa done jack after 2 days, although I would put this as slightly town, cause mafia are the ones who need to prove their non-scumminess, and they need a solid track record to come out on top against actual townies.
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
I always reference Brainbomb as BB and I think most vet people also do it.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 amMy second point was because when you cut out your post from my reply, I misremembered the context and assumed it was Vecna who'd said BB and you interpreted that as brain.
But now this is even weirder to me that you used BB as shorthand for brain when I haven't seen people do that much...
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
Bruh I've already clarified I misspoke about the trigger and rephrased it to be about the conversation topic. Move on pleasekgray wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:57 amWhat was the clear trigger/escalation/resolution of his anger that seemed natural to you in this game?Nephthys wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:02 amI dunno, with him from what I recall theres a clear trigger, escalation and resolution of his anger, it seems naturalHellenic Riot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:00 pmI don't especially buy ND 'just being himself' seeing as his attacks have gone beyond the usual people he always fights with and onto people like me who always had a tolerable and relatively amiable relationship with him, but maybe I just erased more about him from my memory
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1. YesBalki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:15 amI’d like you to flesh this out more please.
Have you played with ghug before? What about his posts seems like acting? Can you tell us what posts in particular leave you with that impression?
Also, I think there is some character/schtick/persona stuff that many people put on as both town and scum. Do you agree with that? Do you think that what you’ve seen from ghug specifically suggests that it is performance art from Scum!ghug? Can you explain?
2. I don't see a logical, human flow of emotion from him which therefore pushes me towards suspecting acting
3. Its more the combination of many of his posts. I suppose you could also rephrase it as, compared to ND (whom I have been vocal about having a flow of emotion) I see ghug as town
4. Yes but its more likely as scum, town have less reason to act. Please don't get into the whole PR might act cause its BS
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
Loves a cheeky OMGUSkgray wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 amI didn't like Vecna's reaction to bozo's post. It just seemed like a bozo version of a shitpost and Vecna trying to make it out to be some distracting scumploy was kind of ridiculous, and made me wonder if he was just looking for reasons to keep moving his vote around. Not much else is bothering me since then.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:18 amIn my continuing attempts to bring out players, to my favourite: @kgray, do teacon and vecna still rate highly for you as scum? Why?
Your vote currently sits on ND. Why, when they're not a solid scumread of yours?
Teacon's started asking more questions and isn't just talking about drinking, but so far I'm not really getting a very investigative vibe from him. Still, he's participating in the game more than he was so I'm down to null on him.
I think ND is pretty scummy and I also don't particularly like him.
Newest scumread is Neph, not getting good vibes from him at all.
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An interesting observation that I was also thinking aboutNephthys wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:18 amHasn't this guy played a few games before?Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:41 pmOh, does anyone else take notes, write stuff down, related to the game? Anyone have a template they employ? If you have a link, can you send it via PM? I'm trying to streamline the way I track this voluminous material.
Like in the section on brainbomb, I have written null/scumlean in one column.
In the evidence column I have written: claiming to tunnel me, shading me as scum (throwing out a morsel to see if anyone else bites?).
If that keeps up it's going to be a large document by the time...well, let's hope we get lucky and Daykill the 6 scum sequentially.
Whack that its only coming up now
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
This probably means he is scum
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Im off today at 1 hour before end of day.
Otherwise im gonna be swamped busy working at office depot. Or at least supposedly were gonna be very busy.
Otherwise im gonna be swamped busy working at office depot. Or at least supposedly were gonna be very busy.
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
My ginal thoughts are that teacon, hamiltonb, are my two most preferred eliminations.
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