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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#3801 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:32 pm

Vecna wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:09 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:54 pm
Vecna wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:47 pm


You should join me/darg and vote as a block. The scumvote is too influential atm and a lot of people are trying real hard to get out from under our scrutiny.
That's exactly what I did, but then Kgray said this is a scummy move. So, I think this move put her officially in the scum list. In fact, if it wasn't for the UB theory, Kgray is he obvious choice for today.
itd be wonderfull if you provide more thoughts of your own though
Are you reading? I am giving my thoughts the best I can, can't really write big essays but I try to make clear what I think.

I think there is no less then 2 scum on my wagon. Damo and Kgray I am pretty sure about. Macca is probably another one and the last is between Ghug and Chaqa.

If the Governor wasn't a thing I will be pushing hard Kgray to be the kill. I am also happy to have Damo killed but won't sit on a vanity wagon as Dargo won't vote him.
If you need to flip me to see I am right, go ahead, better now we still have a myskill.

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#3802 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:32 pm

damo, when did your vacation end?

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#3803 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:33 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:32 pm
Vecna wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:09 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:54 pm


That's exactly what I did, but then Kgray said this is a scummy move. So, I think this move put her officially in the scum list. In fact, if it wasn't for the UB theory, Kgray is he obvious choice for today.
itd be wonderfull if you provide more thoughts of your own though
Are you reading? I am giving my thoughts the best I can, can't really write big essays but I try to make clear what I think.

I think there is no less then 2 scum on my wagon. Damo and Kgray I am pretty sure about. Macca is probably another one and the last is between Ghug and Chaqa.

If the Governor wasn't a thing I will be pushing hard Kgray to be the kill. I am also happy to have Damo killed but won't sit on a vanity wagon as Dargo won't vote him.
If you need to flip me to see I am right, go ahead, better now we still have a myskill.
Are you that confident about the governor thing?

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#3804 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:34 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:27 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:25 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:06 pm


@rdrivera... You came on the wagon with vecna, and moved because kgray, whom you read is the best daykill today said it looked scummy? I am sure I am missing something in your reason, but that doesn't make sense to me.
I don't think I got your question. I didn't move.
I didn't recall you moving, but you said, "That's exactly what I did, but then Kgray said this is a scummy move." if you were not refering, as the context implies you moved alongside vecna and me, then nvm. What did you mean, though? What was the exact that you did?
I was voting Damo, but you clearly indicated you won't vote him and Vecna also don't have him as a priority, so I moved to Macca because I think town has to consolidate.

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#3805 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:35 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:32 pm
damo, when did your vacation end?
Tuesday, but was I out yesterday for pre-lockdown so effectively back to normal today.

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#3806 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:36 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:33 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:32 pm
Vecna wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:09 pm


itd be wonderfull if you provide more thoughts of your own though
Are you reading? I am giving my thoughts the best I can, can't really write big essays but I try to make clear what I think.

I think there is no less then 2 scum on my wagon. Damo and Kgray I am pretty sure about. Macca is probably another one and the last is between Ghug and Chaqa.

If the Governor wasn't a thing I will be pushing hard Kgray to be the kill. I am also happy to have Damo killed but won't sit on a vanity wagon as Dargo won't vote him.
If you need to flip me to see I am right, go ahead, better now we still have a myskill.
Are you that confident about the governor thing?
No, I am not, but do you think it's worth the risk?

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#3807 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:36 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:33 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:32 pm


Are you reading? I am giving my thoughts the best I can, can't really write big essays but I try to make clear what I think.

I think there is no less then 2 scum on my wagon. Damo and Kgray I am pretty sure about. Macca is probably another one and the last is between Ghug and Chaqa.

If the Governor wasn't a thing I will be pushing hard Kgray to be the kill. I am also happy to have Damo killed but won't sit on a vanity wagon as Dargo won't vote him.
If you need to flip me to see I am right, go ahead, better now we still have a myskill.
Are you that confident about the governor thing?
No, I am not, but do you think it's worth the risk?
I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.

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#3808 Post by dargorygel » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:34 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:27 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:25 pm


I don't think I got your question. I didn't move.
I didn't recall you moving, but you said, "That's exactly what I did, but then Kgray said this is a scummy move." if you were not refering, as the context implies you moved alongside vecna and me, then nvm. What did you mean, though? What was the exact that you did?
I was voting Damo, but you clearly indicated you won't vote him and Vecna also don't have him as a priority, so I moved to Macca because I think town has to consolidate.
That makes more sense. Thanks

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#3809 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:36 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:33 pm


Are you that confident about the governor thing?
No, I am not, but do you think it's worth the risk?
I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
Not only is this not that much more likely than random, but it will be a reason to not daykill anyone who hasn't claimed, which is far too limiting.

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#3810 Post by kgray » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:36 pm


No, I am not, but do you think it's worth the risk?
I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
Not only is this not that much more likely than random, but it will be a reason to not daykill anyone who hasn't claimed, which is far too limiting.
What does this mean?

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#3811 Post by Chaqa » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:40 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:36 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:33 pm


Are you that confident about the governor thing?
No, I am not, but do you think it's worth the risk?
I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
We could see if there's someone else out there to claim UB if we're that concerned.

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#3812 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:43 pm

kgray wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm


I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
Not only is this not that much more likely than random, but it will be a reason to not daykill anyone who hasn't claimed, which is far too limiting.
What does this mean?
The idea that you're scum UB who governed herself is plausible, but it's more of "this is a thing that could happen because it makes sense with plausible scum buy choices and kgray probably knew she'd be on the block today", which means it's far from a certainty and it's an argument we could apply to other potential daykills.

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#3813 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:44 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:40 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:36 pm


No, I am not, but do you think it's worth the risk?
I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
We could see if there's someone else out there to claim UB if we're that concerned.
This is actually not the worst idea. A one-shot governor isn't that valuable for town.

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#3814 Post by damo666 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:44 pm

Beginning to think I was wrong on ghug.

So now I am at rdr, seth and one from kgray, Chaqa, Macca, Bunny

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#3815 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:49 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:36 pm


No, I am not, but do you think it's worth the risk?
I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
Not only is this not that much more likely than random, but it will be a reason to not daykill anyone who hasn't claimed, which is far too limiting.
Ghug is arguing with himself. I think it's time for his medicine.

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#3816 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:53 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:49 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm


I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
Not only is this not that much more likely than random, but it will be a reason to not daykill anyone who hasn't claimed, which is far too limiting.
Ghug is arguing with himself. I think it's time for his medicine.
Gotta finish work first ;)

I'm actually elaborating, not agreeing with myself.

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#3817 Post by kgray » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:57 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:43 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm


Not only is this not that much more likely than random, but it will be a reason to not daykill anyone who hasn't claimed, which is far too limiting.
What does this mean?
The idea that you're scum UB who governed herself is plausible, but it's more of "this is a thing that could happen because it makes sense with plausible scum buy choices and kgray probably knew she'd be on the block today", which means it's far from a certainty and it's an argument we could apply to other potential daykills.
Oh, gotcha. Well I think this UB theory and letting it control the daykill is dumb. If people want me killed (cough Rivera) they should just vote for me. I'll claim if people think I should but it's pretty clear that I'm going to get offed at some point and I'm kind of sick of trying to defend myself, so I'd rather just get it over with and obviously it's better now than in mylo.

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#3818 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:12 pm

Y'all, town's odds of winning drop considerably if we miskill today. No more of this"woe is me, just do it already" shit.

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#3819 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:13 pm

(scum may continue the defeatism)

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#3820 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:34 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:44 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:40 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:37 pm


I feel like it's fine as long as we set up a decent backup wagon.
We could see if there's someone else out there to claim UB if we're that concerned.
This is actually not the worst idea. A one-shot governor isn't that valuable for town.
I think I like this idea too, as even with scum knowing who UB is (if he isn't scum) they can't know his target. And if he lies about his target we have a caught scum. The only downsize is decreasing the pool for the other PRs.

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