M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Donny Dude]

I don’t think Seth is scum.

I think Flash might be. He voted Summit early D1 and then didn’t do much. Maybe he’s lucky scum who can coast all game because of that one early vote. If I was in scum team my advice to flash would be say very little. Be our deep threat.

##vote Flash

Since M1012/M1013, it has been a running joke for flash to vote for summit at the beginning of D1. However, if they both rolled scum, I think flash would still vote for him. I know someone said flash could have gotten off of summit's wagon any time D1 since his vote was not considered serious, but even though he could have gotten off of summit's wagon, I am not sure he would have. As I pointed out in M59, flash is capable of lurking his way to victory as scum (even though he turned out to be town in M59).

I did not know about this about Flash and summit.

[Durga]

Durga there are still so many scummy people. Please obvtown for me.

I refuse.

[Durga]

K the post where maniac complains about PR's outting themselves for no reason to get killed by 3p strikes me as incredibly fake. Firstly we've only had 2 PR's outted, secondly there's no evidence they were killed by 3p over mafia, thirdly it's hardly a thing to pretend game quitting over

[Donny Dude]

I don’t think Seth is scum.

I think Flash might be. He voted Summit early D1 and then didn’t do much. Maybe he’s lucky scum who can coast all game because of that one early vote. If I was in scum team my advice to flash would be say very little. Be our deep threat.

##vote Flash

Since M1012/M1013, it has been a running joke for flash to vote for summit at the beginning of D1. However, if they both rolled scum, I think flash would still vote for him. I know someone said flash could have gotten off of summit's wagon any time D1 since his vote was not considered serious, but even though he could have gotten off of summit's wagon, I am not sure he would have. As I pointed out in M59, flash is capable of lurking his way to victory as scum (even though he turned out to be town in M59).

I did not know about this about Flash and summit.

Looking through Flash's sparse iso, if I take what bozo says into account, there is little solving by flash.
##vote Flash

[Tom Bombadil]

Summit was very reluctant to vote maniac D1 which was weird

[Hellenic Riot]

Do you all just avoid me when I'm actually around or what

Why is the massive amount of catching up you've repeatedly said you intend to do predicated on other people being around at the time you do it?

[Durga]

Do you all just avoid me when I'm actually around or what

Why is the massive amount of catching up you've repeatedly said you intend to do predicated on other people being around at the time you do it?

I can't do that rn bc I'm on my phone so that's not the point

[Durga]

Summit was very reluctant to vote maniac D1 which was weird

Hmmmm, no liable 3rd wagon for scum v scum though? Seems off

[Hellenic Riot]

It may be irritating to write long posts on mobile, but how small is your phone that you can't even read old posts comfortably on it?

[Durga]

It may be irritating to write long posts on mobile, but how small is your phone that you can't even read old posts comfortably on it?

It's annoying to quote multiple things at once

[Tom Bombadil]

Summit was very reluctant to vote maniac D1 which was weird

Hmmmm, no liable 3rd wagon for scum v scum though? Seems off

I would normally agree - but summit seemed so unconformtable as scum, that him being reluctant to vote Maniac even though it’s the counter wagon seems plausible to me

[Hellenic Riot]

like, im pretty sure either you or HR is scum. your d1 looks comically bad, almost to the extent im questioning whether youd allow that to happen as scum.

How is it that in the middle of pressuring Damo and talking up reasons for why Damo is scum, you threw your vote on me instead?

My reason for flipping my read on you, while predicated on Seth's alignment, was also made entirely on the basis that Bunny was definitely scum, and given that's not the case I'm now back to being strongly inclined to eliminate you instead

[Hellenic Riot]

This is pretty much my poe pool for scum now. I townread pretty much everyone else, or have reasons to be ok with them.

Pretty big suspicion:
Durga
Hellenic Riot
damo666
flash2015

Maniac
Nanook

seth24c
(worcej)
Low'ish suspicion

feeling pretty good about these reads.

Aside from the huge inconsistencies on how much you scumread Nanook, which seems to peak and trough like a heart monitor, do you actually have any reasoning whatsoever for why Durga is your top scumread and yet the most you've managed to push her on is for being absent - whilst immediately clarifying that that isn't Alignment Indicative?

[Vecna]

Do you all just avoid me when I'm actually around or what

Why is the massive amount of catching up you've repeatedly said you intend to do predicated on other people being around at the time you do it?

I can't do that rn bc I'm on my phone so that's not the point

catching up on phone aint that bad, no? I do it all the time. So much of my "vecna catchup spam" is done in trains or w/e

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 4.3

Nanook (4) - Worcej, seth24c, Vecna, Durga
flash2015 (3) - Maniac, damo666, Donny Dude
seth24c (2) - ghug, Nanook
Donny Dude (1) - bozotheclown
damo666 (1) - Fluminator
bozotheclown (1) - kgray

Currently NANOOK is scheduled to be deleted.

30 hours and 5 minutes remain in Day 4.

[Hellenic Riot]

the only person that would know that is the traitor right? unless scum succesfully signalled/recruited.

Regardless, I find it difficult to say one way or the other.

Ive been susp of HR right untill he did the thing where he flipped his read on me. The reasoning was really interesting. At face value, !Scum HR really doesnt have to flip his read of me there. He might do it if he thinks itll help them misexecution bunny the next day by painting the picture of town seth vs scum bunny. that gets even stronger if seth is scum and he can set me up for a misexecution that way down the line.

I dont know if HR is that tricky and planning ahead like that. It might just be genuine town reasoning, but I dont think hes incapable of doing it. He also mightve just done it for reasoning im not thinking of.

I just am confused why you're mafclearing bozo for expecting bunny to flip scum but not HR

HR is maybe the best player on the site at faking that shit, to be fair.

Since when do you compliment my play?

[seth24c]

Summit was very reluctant to vote maniac D1 which was weird

Hmmmm, no liable 3rd wagon for scum v scum though? Seems off

I would normally agree - but summit seemed so unconformtable as scum, that him being reluctant to vote Maniac even though it’s the counter wagon seems plausible to me

I think it is plausible as well. While I think there are better targets to pursue today maniac should be someone we keep a close eye on.

[Hellenic Riot]

More importantly, Vecna, given your two posts linking my flip of my read on you to something I'd be doing if Seth were my partner, why are you not pushing Seth at all and why is he still so far down your list of suspicious people?

[Vecna]

like, im pretty sure either you or HR is scum. your d1 looks comically bad, almost to the extent im questioning whether youd allow that to happen as scum.

How is it that in the middle of pressuring Damo and talking up reasons for why Damo is scum, you threw your vote on me instead?

My reason for flipping my read on you, while predicated on Seth's alignment, was also made entirely on the basis that Bunny was definitely scum, and given that's not the case I'm now back to being strongly inclined to eliminate you instead

Or maybe it was based on the fact you were pretty sure seth was going to be the next mislynch, and you already knew id come out looking pretty good for defending that slot?

Now that suddenly everyone is flipping their read on the slot and it is no longer a plausible lynch you need another target.

Or maybe you were pretty happy with me defending your scummate Seth, but now that everyone is flipping their read, you no longer need me to defend your buddy?

Scenario's, scenario's

Or maybe youre town thats just annoyed that im once again coming after you and you dont realize your play is different and your process is just not the same as it usually is and that my reasoning is internally valid to me.

[ghug]

I like this because it forces earlier participation.

Yes, it's the best thing to do with a gun.

It does give scum a little cover if it's the meta, because it's really hard to behave organically with a gun as scum, but I think it's still better in aggregate.

In a perfect world, it would have been better if he didn’t say this all out loud and just did it...

Do you think Tom would normally announce his intentions like this?

I think it's better to give people a full EoD, really.