M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[ghug]

Ok. This is important to read:

I don’t have strong enough scumreads to hipfire. So I will be shooting the lead wagon exactly 24 hours before deadline. Think of today as two 24 he day phases.

So I expect 6pm EST to be treated just like a normal EOD - with me shooting exactly as 6pm

I like this because it forces earlier participation.

Yes, it's the best thing to do with a gun.

It does give scum a little cover if it's the meta, because it's really hard to behave organically with a gun as scum, but I think it's still better in aggregate.

[ghug]

. I don't like being jerked around

That's not what you said last night

Wtf were you watching us?

[ghug]

##VOTE Fumigator

[Fluminator]

Cheating on Maniac tsk tsk

[ghug]

The bot says I voted for an invalid. It's onto you too.

[Fluminator]

INV stands for inventor. The bot just outed me as a PR rip.

[Fluminator]

(That was a joke ^, nobody CC)

[Fluminator]

Or was it

[Fluminator]

##Vote damo is scum btw
I'm only letting Durga live this time because I like her

[kgray]

K, good point.

Have you changed your opinion on her EoD behavior?

Yes, the bunny thing I think I believe on not seeing it on the whole pr thing. Although the amount of changed votes does concern me a bit at eod.

Donny what concerned you about this?

[kgray]

@Durga - I’m not sure there is a benefit to keeping Bunny alive. I’m thinking through options as others should be doing. At the moment I’m hearing Bunny is 100% scum let’s kill him to find out what we already know!!

That doesn’t make sense. Mafia can be a long game and requires patience. Rushing to kill and hammer may be the best option here, but at least let’s explore the possibilities like (a) bunny could just be bad player in this game (b) is there a better kill today even if Bunny were to confess he was scum.

Even with the chance that BunnyGo's claim is true, I think it is better to verify it today so we know how to interpret the D2 voting.

How do you interpret D2 voting now?

[kgray]

I reviewed your town games, and why you have not voted for 6 different players in any other game, M59 is closer to your typical D1 than this game. In most of the other games you changed your vote several times D1.

This interaction in particular caught my eye as a time where bozo basically spelled out for summit what he had to do to try to get suspicion off of him and summit just gives a halfhearted reply that clearly says he can't do it. This really strikes me as an interaction between teammates.

It's worth noting that after this interaction bozo never changes his vote from summit but he makes multiple posts referencing the maniac wagon and maniacs claim about not reading his role pm in particular. Bozo is highly suspect.

These are good points, imo. Summit didn't respond at all to my comments about him not contributing, and I'd believe he felt more comfortable replying to his teammate's pressure.

I also still think it's suspicious that this was the only time bozo interacted with summit or said anything about him at all. He spent a lot of time justifying his first vote on Maniac at the beginning of the game but didn't seem that interested in grilling summit or convincing himself/others that summit was scum even though bozo's vote put summit in the lead.

[kgray]

I also think bozo is sketch for how he is playing this game.

This is way too vague, can you please elaborate?

[kgray]

This is pretty much my poe pool for scum now. I townread pretty much everyone else, or have reasons to be ok with them.

Pretty big suspicion:
Durga
Hellenic Riot
damo666
flash2015

Maniac
Nanook

seth24c
(worcej)
Low'ish suspicion

feeling pretty good about these reads.

How has flash done enough to go in your "pretty big suspicion" pile?

[kgray]

bozotheclown -
BunnyGo - :D
damo666 -
Donny Dude - :]
Durga - :|
flash2015 - :}
Fluminator - :D
ghug - :)
Hellenic Riot - :)
kgray - :)
Maniac -
MoscowFleet - :|
Nanook - :]
seth24c - :]
Tom Bombadil - :)
Vecna - >:]
worcej -

Why did you think TrPrado was more likely to be scum that Donny or seth after D1?

Bad meta read I guess. I actually haven't noticed anything super scummy from Donny, and Seth seems different to me than last game when he was scum.

What about seth seems different from last game?

[kgray]

I think Donny's D1 looks slightly worse than seth's D1.

##VOTE Donny

I think bozo's D1 looks slightly worse than seth's D1.

##vote bozo

[Nanook]

Sup

[Nanook]

##Vote Seth

[seth24c]

##Vote Seth

You have been voting me for a couple days now with no stated justification for your vote. Why?

[seth24c]

Why prado

Seth better option than prado imo


Not that I have a ton of confidence in my reads here but if prado is town this is just atrocious

3 minutes left in the day after nanook has been voting bunny and talking about maniac all day he finally says something about mine or prado's wagon and this is his post. Argues against the wagon that will clearly happen after not doing anything all day to push my wagon or argue against the prado wagon. This feel like lazy scum play to gain towncred when prado flips town. Really not a fan of nanook's iso at all. May be a bit of an OMGUS vote but there is a good chance that nanook is scum, remember he also had this post.

Is there a reason you weren't concerned about this in your first game here?

Yeh I was town so I was more focused whereas now I’m scum so I just wanna have a good time

##vote nanook