M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Vecna]

This is pretty much my poe pool for scum now. I townread pretty much everyone else, or have reasons to be ok with them.

Pretty big suspicion:
Durga
Hellenic Riot
damo666
flash2015

Maniac
Nanook

seth24c
(worcej)
Low'ish suspicion

feeling pretty good about these reads.

[bozotheclown]

You were actually one of the first people to vote for BobMcBob that day. I like hard towncleared you for it. oops

That is not accurate, I voted for Bob the first and only time 35 minutes before EOD when he was already the lead wagon. Also, he was not online and looked very suspicious because he had subbed into the game and not posted anything significant, so I thought it was very likely he would be the kill. The reason I had already scanned that slot is because it looked so suspicious, I think I had scanned it even before Bob took over.

[Fluminator]

Vecna, do you think HR knew Bunny was town?

[Fluminator]

You were third on the wagon at eod but I see some people voted off and you didn't hop on until later so I guess we're both right.

[Vecna]

guess donny could also be at the bottom of that list, but I still think hes more likely to be town (esp if HR is town).

The way damo and HR were both pushing to not spare bunny at EoD2 I also find it unlikely that theyre scum together. Much more likely that a scum damo tried to sheep the sentiment of town HR to get a town pr mislynched over him joining hia teammate in that push and both looking bad upon it flipping town.

[bozotheclown]

You were third on the wagon at eod but I see some people voted off and you didn't hop on until later so I guess we're both right.

I do not think you were right to say I was one of the first to vote for Bob when 6 players had vote for him before me and 5 were still voting for him when I voted, but I can see where being the third oldest vote at EOD makes it look that way.

[Tom Bombadil]

Ok. This is important to read:

I don’t have strong enough scumreads to hipfire. So I will be shooting the lead wagon exactly 24 hours before deadline. Think of today as two 24 he day phases.

So I expect 6pm EST to be treated just like a normal EOD - with me shooting exactly as 6pm

[Vecna]

Vecna, do you think HR knew Bunny was town?

the only person that would know that is the traitor right? unless scum succesfully signalled/recruited.

Regardless, I find it difficult to say one way or the other.

Ive been susp of HR right untill he did the thing where he flipped his read on me. The reasoning was really interesting. At face value, !Scum HR really doesnt have to flip his read of me there. He might do it if he thinks itll help them mislynch bunny the next day by painting the picture of town seth vs scum bunny. that gets even stronger if seth is scum and he can set me up for a mislynch that way down the line.

I dont know if HR is that tricky and planning ahead like that. It might just be genuine town reasoning, but I dont think hes incapable of doing it. He also mightve just done it for reasoning im not thinking of.

[bozotheclown]

guess donny could also be at the bottom of that list, but I still think hes more likely to be town (esp if HR is town).

The way damo and HR were both pushing to not spare bunny at EoD2 I also find it unlikely that theyre scum together. Much more likely that a scum damo tried to sheep the sentiment of town HR to get a town pr mislynched over him joining hia teammate in that push and both looking bad upon it flipping town.

Why did you think TrPrado was more likely to be scum that Donny or seth after D1? I think TrPrado's open defense of summit made him less likely to be summit's teammate than Donny or seth, who never explained why they were avoiding the summit wagon.

[Vecna]

Ok. This is important to read:

I don’t have strong enough scumreads to hipfire. So I will be shooting the lead wagon exactly 24 hours before deadline. Think of today as two 24 he day phases.

So I expect 6pm EST to be treated just like a normal EOD - with me shooting exactly as 6pm

are you actually hardclaiming gun? or is this just another hero gimmick to gather more info?

I guess I shouldnplay along either way, but id like to know fpr sure wothout being fucked with if I actually need to play for realsies. I dont like being jerked around

[bozotheclown]

Ok. This is important to read:

I don’t have strong enough scumreads to hipfire. So I will be shooting the lead wagon exactly 24 hours before deadline. Think of today as two 24 he day phases.

So I expect 6pm EST to be treated just like a normal EOD - with me shooting exactly as 6pm

Does this mean you really have a gun?

[Tom Bombadil]

Yes. I have a gun.

[bozotheclown]

bozotheclown -
BunnyGo - :D
damo666 -
Donny Dude - :]
Durga - :|
flash2015 - :}
Fluminator - :D
ghug - :)
Hellenic Riot - :)
kgray - :)
Maniac -
MoscowFleet - :|
Nanook - :]
seth24c - :]
Tom Bombadil - :)
Vecna - >:]
worcej -

Why did you think TrPrado was more likely to be scum that Donny or seth after D1?

[Fluminator]

Vecna, do you think HR knew Bunny was town?

the only person that would know that is the traitor right? unless scum succesfully signalled/recruited.

Regardless, I find it difficult to say one way or the other.

Ive been susp of HR right untill he did the thing where he flipped his read on me. The reasoning was really interesting. At face value, !Scum HR really doesnt have to flip his read of me there. He might do it if he thinks itll help them misexecution bunny the next day by painting the picture of town seth vs scum bunny. that gets even stronger if seth is scum and he can set me up for a misexecution that way down the line.

I dont know if HR is that tricky and planning ahead like that. It might just be genuine town reasoning, but I dont think hes incapable of doing it. He also mightve just done it for reasoning im not thinking of.

I just am confused why you're mafclearing bozo for expecting bunny to flip scum but not HR

[Vecna]

guess donny could also be at the bottom of that list, but I still think hes more likely to be town (esp if HR is town).

The way damo and HR were both pushing to not spare bunny at EoD2 I also find it unlikely that theyre scum together. Much more likely that a scum damo tried to sheep the sentiment of town HR to get a town pr mislynched over him joining hia teammate in that push and both looking bad upon it flipping town.

Why did you think TrPrado was more likely to be scum that Donny or seth after D1? I think TrPrado's open defense of summit made him less likely to be summit's teammate than Donny or seth, who never explained why they were avoiding the summit wagon.

I didnt really have any strong scumreads on d2 that were likely going to result in a wagon.

Esp d2 I felt seth and donny were more likely town than scum. Seths nigjt posts this night keep me thinking I was right on townreading him, but im aware I might be confbiassing myself because i dont want to be wrong on seth (mainly because itll make me look pretty bad)

[Fluminator]

bozotheclown -
BunnyGo - :D
damo666 -
Donny Dude - :]
Durga - :|
flash2015 - :}
Fluminator - :D
ghug - :)
Hellenic Riot - :)
kgray - :)
Maniac -
MoscowFleet - :|
Nanook - :]
seth24c - :]
Tom Bombadil - :)
Vecna - >:]
worcej -

Why did you think TrPrado was more likely to be scum that Donny or seth after D1?

Bad meta read I guess. I actually haven't noticed anything super scummy from Donny, and Seth seems different to me than last game when he was scum.

[bozotheclown]

I think Donny's D1 looks slightly worse than seth's D1.

##VOTE Donny

[Donny Dude]

Ok. This is important to read:

I don’t have strong enough scumreads to hipfire. So I will be shooting the lead wagon exactly 24 hours before deadline. Think of today as two 24 he day phases.

So I expect 6pm EST to be treated just like a normal EOD - with me shooting exactly as 6pm

are you actually hardclaiming gun? or is this just another hero gimmick to gather more info?

I guess I shouldnplay along either way, but id like to know fpr sure wothout being fucked with if I actually need to play for realsies. I dont like being jerked around

Why does the fact if Tom does or does not have a gun determine if you need to play?

[Fluminator]

Hey Moscow. If you could start posting again that would be great.

[Vecna]

Vecna, do you think HR knew Bunny was town?

the only person that would know that is the traitor right? unless scum succesfully signalled/recruited.

Regardless, I find it difficult to say one way or the other.

Ive been susp of HR right untill he did the thing where he flipped his read on me. The reasoning was really interesting. At face value, !Scum HR really doesnt have to flip his read of me there. He might do it if he thinks itll help them misexecution bunny the next day by painting the picture of town seth vs scum bunny. that gets even stronger if seth is scum and he can set me up for a misexecution that way down the line.

I dont know if HR is that tricky and planning ahead like that. It might just be genuine town reasoning, but I dont think hes incapable of doing it. He also mightve just done it for reasoning im not thinking of.

I just am confused why you're mafclearing bozo for expecting bunny to flip scum but not HR

because theyre 2 very different scenarios. bozo was discrediting people that swapped votes off of bunny without being here or pushing. The tone just had the 110% assumption of a scum bunny that I think is very hard to fake. this continued when i pressed him on it.

its vastly different play and reasoning from HR, who couldve also just been scum pushing bunny, and doubling down on mislynching him after he claimed scum. Bozo didnt try to convince people to lynch bunny. He was working towards who to blame/frame -after- bunny wouldve flipped scum.