M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[damo666]

kgray should not be underestimated.

Agreed. She’s my second scum read behind Donny. The way she’s offering to subtly push wagons is definitely her scum game.

Who's wagons and I offering to subtly push?

What?

[worcej]

Why doesn't salt explode then?

The chlorine is more reactive to the sodium than the water. Is that right worcej?

Also, worcej, you ever learn about O2F2?

No, salt just dissolves because effectively the water molecules break the ionic bounds of Na and Cl, allowing it to become an aqueous solution.

Remember - water is weird and has both positive and negative charge on different sides of it, allowing it to covalent bond with the sodium and chlorine.

In regards to pure sodium, it reacts in water to form sodium hydroxide (NaOH) and hydrogen gas (H2). This reaction is exothermic and thus the bang.

[kgray]

So, comparisons to last game:

A) Tom is back to his normal natural self, so unless he's vastly improved his scumgame he's almost certainly town.

B) Damo has done a complete 180, is barely present, not giving off his town vibes, and is strongly reminiscent of the mini-mafia where he was scum.

C) Summit's also reverted to type.

Down with ##vote summit wagon atm, would be sympathetic to a damo wagon too.

I was on the gargle yesterday in an effort to single handedly support the UK hospitality sector. Catching up now. My absence is NAI.

Hmm. I thought you said you weren't feeling tired and emotional?

[damo666]

This is a very strange day 1

[worcej]

I like solving the game d1. But too many people could still be scum.

I am intrigued to see how you could possibly solve the game on D1, but I know you won't tell me your secrets.

Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are.

Ooof, right at my soul with this one.

[worcej]

This is a very strange day 1

What D1 isn't strange though?

[bozotheclown]

@Flum - I don’t recall fake town slipping whilst scum before. I thought this was my first time.

Ok - so I read the PM. What complete idiotic moron without a brain would give a Maniac a BOMB

Oh yeah, Bo and Jamie are GMs. That makes sense now.

Why hasn’t anyone put the player list in alphabetical order. The mafia community standards are slipping since my last game.

Taking of changes, I don’t like the ‘long quote, short reply’ nature of mafia now. I seem to recall eloquently worded novelettes last time I played. Has game shifted to suit the twitter generation?

Also, see my post in Game Theory Games and play along if you’re bored.

I finally got around to reading further into M7.

Fluminator asked you this:

"@Maniac: No, my question was "If you were scum, would you check to see who your partners were this time before playing."

Your responded with this:

@Flum - Yes I think I would go with my Chinese Wall idea again, last game I asked bo to tell my team-mates I was playing blind and he refused so I had to look them up - I prob should have asked my son to post in the mafia thread on my behalf so I could've kept my blinkers on.

This sounds like you tried to play as mafia without knowing your teammates in M5 and talked about it again in M7 (it appears M5 was played after M6 and immediately before M7). Was the purpose of your first post this game to tell your teammates that you were "playing blind" if you were scum?

bozo I would like you to reread your question several times

I do not know what you are getting at.

[BunnyGo]

Yo but if anyone wants to make Chaqa a thing hmu

All he's done is anchor, talk mechanics, say bullshit and then not even back it up when called out on it, fake engagement, nothing substantive. I'm willing to give him another day but I highly doubt his "I improve after d1!!" thing is going to happen

Also would like to see more from summit but agree with Vecna that time will tell. And flash and rdr. More flash fr but maybe I'm asking for the moon

I'm not opposed to a Chaqa wagon.

Subtle push.

[worcej]

I am intrigued to see how you could possibly solve the game on D1, but I know you won't tell me your secrets.

Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are.

Nirvana is by far the worst of the grunge/Seattle scene. Fight me.

As a former Seattle-ite, I agree with your assessment. Nirvana is overrated because of Kurt Cobain's death.

[BunnyGo]

@ghug do you still think Vecna is scum?

Felt like a push.

[worcej]

To those of you saying that Nanook is playing the same as last time - Would any of you care to explain how? Because I distinctly remember that the vast majority of Nanook's D1 last time we spent envisaging great spreadsheets and decrying their lack of meta on us... And I have seen neither a mention of a spreadsheet nor any attempt whatsoever to use what meta Nanook actually has on us now.

I guess I should say, Nanook is the same because they are a waste of space at this moment and not actually contributing to the game, which is the same as last time.

[damo666]

So, comparisons to last game:

A) Tom is back to his normal natural self, so unless he's vastly improved his scumgame he's almost certainly town.

B) Damo has done a complete 180, is barely present, not giving off his town vibes, and is strongly reminiscent of the mini-mafia where he was scum.

C) Summit's also reverted to type.

Down with ##vote summit wagon atm, would be sympathetic to a damo wagon too.

I was on the gargle yesterday in an effort to single handedly support the UK hospitality sector. Catching up now. My absence is NAI.

Hmm. I thought you said you weren't feeling tired and emotional?

I wasn't when I posted my reply to summit. That was 9.41 am BST. Bit early that.

[bozotheclown]

4 votes and someone else pushing the wagon. The other wagons didn't have eyecatchingly bad posts justifying the push. The Donny wagon is a joke vote a pressure vote and an unexplained vote. The Maniac wagon is a joke vote and 2 people upset that Maniac is being Maniac.

What vote for Maniac at the time you posted this did you think was a joke?

The one that was cast in a joking tone (seth)

This does not seem like a joke to me:

Just for info we scum know our scum buddies. Not intimately yet, but I’m sure when we meet up in the scum room later we’ll get better acquainted.

Maybe we can keep you from meeting up in the scum room later. ##vote Maniac

I took this as distrust in Maniac continuing to "claim" he is scum.

@seth: Was you vote for Maniac a joke?

[Tom Bombadil]

I think summit is a better wagon to than damo.

Summit has not even attempted to really defend themself. This strikes me as scum potentially trying to play it really cool. Most people get very frustrated at being wagoned as either alignment, it’s just for some reason as scum they are so aware to not come across as defensive that they play it too cool. I sorta get that impression here.

Damo is basically doing the same thing, which may seem like a contradiction, but knowing damo a bit better I think this is par the course. He never really gets too emotionally invested in the game.

Worcej and Donny are also fine wagons.

I don’t mind how this is shaking up.

Why Donny and Worcej are fine wagons? Donny at least seems townie to me.
And you look like setting yourself to jump into any wagon at EOD.

This seems insincere. I literally started the worcej and Donny wagons, so it’s not like I’m coming in with no thoughts and saying I like all the wagons and setting myself to flip flop. Regarding Donny - I find his parroting scummy. Could you elaborate what you find towny about him.

I just said why I dislike summmit and I don’t like the damo wagon.

Seems like a pretty reasonable post for me to share my thoughts on the lead wagons.

[kgray]

@Durga: Why do you care/are asking about vote order? That's pretty sus.

What is the scum motivation for asking that?

What's the town motivation for it?

These seemed like an unnecessary question from kgray...

I disagree, it's not unnecessary. Chaqa was calling something Durga said sus when I see no scum motivation for her saying that. Several other people also asked about it, and he answered with a barely-believable excuse that it was a meme.

You don't care if Chaqa is throwing shade at people with no valid reasons?

[Hellenic Riot]

To those of you saying that Nanook is playing the same as last time - Would any of you care to explain how? Because I distinctly remember that the vast majority of Nanook's D1 last time we spent envisaging great spreadsheets and decrying their lack of meta on us... And I have seen neither a mention of a spreadsheet nor any attempt whatsoever to use what meta Nanook actually has on us now.

I guess I should say, Nanook is the same because they are a waste of space at this moment and not actually contributing to the game, which is the same as last time.

Ah okay, you were just insulting them in a way that strongly but incorrectly suggested you thought they were town.

[kgray]

@Kgrey - are you in the UK?

Nope - you can tell because I spell "gray" correctly

[damo666]

This is a very strange day 1

What D1 isn't strange though?

Yeah but stranger than usual.

I wish somebody would Flumslip. Sorry, scumslip.

[BunnyGo]

What are you basing this on? I do not remember anything like that in a mafia game.

I don’t either. If you mean me, it’s a fear based on respect.

lol. scum!Bunny in my first game here was probably the most condescending and patronizing person I've encountered on this website.

That’s true. And it was a conscious effort to pick on the newbie. I did apologize privately, but as the offense was done in public the apology should be too:

I am sorry for taking that game too far. It wasn’t kind, and I should be more encouraging of new players having fun.

[kgray]

I got killed N1 in the abandoned game.

If I get killed D1 this game I will develop a complex and my voters will be to blame.

I don't love this at all.