M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[Durga]

Pfff, dont you go pretending you did the heavy lifting on this one

Yeah, maybe. I certainly felt better about my read knowing who was already voting him!

But this is my first time killing scum as town and I pretty much made the push at the end that got him killed, so I'm excited and am going to take some credit for it

I told my gut feelings are getting better.

Getting scum D1 is great, but also having a towncore is even better. Vecna, kgray, summit, damo and Flum are all town. Yav and Flash are probably town too.

I agree with most of this. Have only skimmed EoD and don't want to say anything determinative but it's looking pretty good.

[bozotheclown]

I don't like the damo wagon anymore for previously stated reasons. Maybe I can reevaluate later if I have to but as of now I'm finding it hard to believe he's calling out prs as scum.

I have to go now, so if you guys screw up and kill me, I think Macca and especially yaz now after the vote fiasco both deserve closer looks and more questioning. Someone else who I think has been flying way under the radar is flum which shouldn't be dismissed. I feel good about durga and gray as town. Macca looks like it's not going to happen so ##Vote yaz, partly because of his vote and partly to save myself. Peace.

MF generated a lot of WIFOM in his last post.

[Vecna]

I don't like the damo wagon anymore for previously stated reasons. Maybe I can reevaluate later if I have to but as of now I'm finding it hard to believe he's calling out prs as scum.

I have to go now, so if you guys screw up and kill me, I think Macca and especially yaz now after the vote fiasco both deserve closer looks and more questioning. Someone else who I think has been flying way under the radar is flum which shouldn't be dismissed. I feel good about durga and gray as town. Macca looks like it's not going to happen so ##Vote yaz, partly because of his vote and partly to save myself. Peace.

MF generated a lot of WIFOM in his last post.

just ignore it, theres plenty of material to work with without trying to play outguess the scum

[rdrivera2005]

Well, I reckon this shouldn't be too difficult now. Imo everyone on MF is town with the possible exception of seth. Don't see anyone else bussing there.

FWIW, I would definitely not assume everyone is town just because they voted for him on D1.

I won't assume either, but I don't see me voting anyone on Moscow wagon the next days (maybe seth).

[bozotheclown]

Well, I reckon this shouldn't be too difficult now. Imo everyone on MF is town with the possible exception of seth. Don't see anyone else bussing there.

Look at Flum's way of interacting with the wagon though.

He gets in on the early bus-slot, but tries at every opportunity to get off again and get other shit starting. Until I call him out on it, and he swoops right back onto the wagon.

I know everyone is telling me my suspicion is wrong there, but I really dont see any reason for why everyone is townreading the slot so hard.

This speculation assumes flash is town, which I am not sure is correct.

I did find this post suspicious:

What are your reasons for these townreads?

But the point is EVERYONE name top 4 reads. I don’t care if reasons aren’t given or not. I’m dumb like that.

Is this so scum can figure out who they should nightkill? What's the point if there's no reason given.

I think Goldy has a town PM.
I like Seth's and Summit's vibes so far. It could be I'm very unfamiliar with them and not paranoid enough of their skills.
I can never read Bozo but I liked his opening and the reaction towards it makes me lean town.

I'm going to assume Vecna and Tom are town for at least today.

[worcej]

Well, I reckon this shouldn't be too difficult now. Imo everyone on MF is town with the possible exception of seth. Don't see anyone else bussing there.

FWIW, I would definitely not assume everyone is town just because they voted for him on D1.

I'm not saying they are town because they voted MF. I am saying I think everyone who voted MF happens to be town (well, possibly not Seth and Flash I suppose). They are different things.

Okay, my statement is still mostly the same - I don't think every person on MF is town and I bet there is a busser.

[Durga]

@Vecna https://youtu.be/TYgOlqinH7A

[worcej]

Well, I reckon this shouldn't be too difficult now. Imo everyone on MF is town with the possible exception of seth. Don't see anyone else bussing there.

FWIW, I would definitely not assume everyone is town just because they voted for him on D1.

I won't assume either, but I don't see me voting anyone on Moscow wagon the next days (maybe seth).

Your statement makes more sense because it keeps your eyes open.

[damo666]

I don't like the damo wagon anymore for previously stated reasons. Maybe I can reevaluate later if I have to but as of now I'm finding it hard to believe he's calling out prs as scum.

I have to go now, so if you guys screw up and kill me, I think Macca and especially yaz now after the vote fiasco both deserve closer looks and more questioning. Someone else who I think has been flying way under the radar is flum which shouldn't be dismissed. I feel good about durga and gray as town. Macca looks like it's not going to happen so ##Vote yaz, partly because of his vote and partly to save myself. Peace.

MF generated a lot of WIFOM in his last post.

just ignore it, theres plenty of material to work with without trying to play outguess the scum

I disagree. I think it's valuable. I'd be shocked if there weren't at least two of his scummates among the unmentioned. Probably 3. Maybe even all 4!

[damo666]

FWIW, I would definitely not assume everyone is town just because they voted for him on D1.

I'm not saying they are town because they voted MF. I am saying I think everyone who voted MF happens to be town (well, possibly not Seth and Flash I suppose). They are different things.

Okay, my statement is still mostly the same - I don't think every person on MF is town and I bet there is a busser.

Fair enough. Who do you think the most likely busser then?

[Vecna]

MF generated a lot of WIFOM in his last post.

just ignore it, theres plenty of material to work with without trying to play outguess the scum

I disagree. I think it's valuable. I'd be shocked if there weren't at least two of his scummates among the unmentioned. Probably 3. Maybe even all 4!

im sure if you ran your numbers you'd have to conclude even if your assumptions are true it barely helps us at all

[Durga]

just ignore it, theres plenty of material to work with without trying to play outguess the scum

I disagree. I think it's valuable. I'd be shocked if there weren't at least two of his scummates among the unmentioned. Probably 3. Maybe even all 4!

im sure if you ran your numbers you'd have to conclude even if your assumptions are true it barely helps us at all

Damo always does the thing where he comes up with random numbers why do we still pay attention to this

[Vecna]

Well, on the other hand, Damo has been quite valuable the last 2 games

[Vecna]

(not counting the mini one)

[worcej]

I'm not saying they are town because they voted MF. I am saying I think everyone who voted MF happens to be town (well, possibly not Seth and Flash I suppose). They are different things.

Okay, my statement is still mostly the same - I don't think every person on MF is town and I bet there is a busser.

Fair enough. Who do you think the most likely busser then?

By low information VCA, Flum and kgray stand out as the most likely options

[damo666]

just ignore it, theres plenty of material to work with without trying to play outguess the scum

I disagree. I think it's valuable. I'd be shocked if there weren't at least two of his scummates among the unmentioned. Probably 3. Maybe even all 4!

im sure if you ran your numbers you'd have to conclude even if your assumptions are true it barely helps us at all

Actually you're right. H e only mentions me, Macca and Yav so my statement doesn't say much. Sorry.

I think you can assume that me, Macca and Yav are not all scum though!

[BunnyGo]

Bozo too.

Do you think I would push flash over MF is MF was my scum partner?

I don’t know, I’ve never seen you as scum and I don’t know if you like to bus or not.

He bussed me HARD one game (was the only one pushing me the whole game). But he was the traitor with no knowledge of the rest of the team.

[TrPrado]

Oh that's a neat piece of information to tune in to, hopefully I can give this game more attention since I really hadn't taken note of Moscow except for his interactions with damo

[Hellenic Riot]

Nice one.

I'm quite content to get Tom tomorrow after that flip - feel it's pretty likely at least one of the major MF defenders is scum given his role and how plausible the flash wagon was right to the end.

[kgray]

Well, I reckon this shouldn't be too difficult now. Imo everyone on MF is town with the possible exception of seth. Don't see anyone else bussing there.

Going to pretty strongly disagree with this post.

Who was bussing then?

Not sure yet, but I think it would be a mistake to assume there were no scum on Moscow's wagon.