M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[kgray]

No rdr, it's fine to use they/them to refer to a single person.

In portuguese we don't have a gender neutral plural pronoun, so it's hard to me to get this. Well at least I am learning something with Mafia.

In English we don't really have gender neutral pronouns at all, which I think is why some people use they/them.

Are they gender neutral singular pronouns in Portuguese?

Are *there* gender neutral singular pronouns in Portuguese?

[Fluminator]

Who wants to do a super sexy worcej wagon last minute with me?

[rdrivera2005]

Is there anything in moscow's iso that is scummy? seems ehh to me, but I don't scumread it.

He only talked about Bozo in a way that is weird (Kgray already discussed it to a really long extent) and then dropped a vote on Macca because it makes sense. Moscow is usually a good player and I just don't get any town sign from him.

What are you talking about. He was good in the mini mafia game but before that all he did was lurk.

It also irks me that you keep repeating this same point. What is bad about his play here?

What point?

About his play here, I think he had a pretty decent start and after some pressure over that Bozo push he just faded away. After he came back I didn't see any sign of town from him. Not a solid read, but enough to warrant a vote. And I don't see a better wagon. Voting for Macca or Flash is a lazy option on my opinion.

[Vecna]

If he knows you are town it could be a way to get town credit. Or he could have believed you were Taz. Or you could be both scum. So, this isn´t so clear to me that newb scum won´t defend you, at least on my POV.

snap, early townreads on Rdrivera. Should I be worried?

I am worried I will be NKed early

I cant remember a single game where u were nK'd early. Wouldnt it be a nice novelty?

[seth24c]

Why is flash voting himself with 25 minutes to go.

[Tom Bombadil]

Who wants to do a super sexy worcej wagon last minute with me?

No. Why worcej?

[kgray]

Why is flash voting himself with 25 minutes to go.

We've got an hour and 20 minutes left.

[Vecna]

I will move my joke vote off of Tom and place a slightly more serious vote on ##vote summit. What struck you as scummy from Vecna? Why do you have like 6 separate joke-posts?

Also Bunny, if you could chill just a bit and not clog up the thread so much, that would be great. I love your activity, but let's try to keep it mafia-related please. If I have to read any more about which cartoon character you are, I'm going to go a bit... loony.

This post does read very much like something scum MF would post.

-Easy attack on someone voting/ scumreading a person often perceived as obvtown by scum
-Overly explanatory over how jokey or serious his votes are
-repeat of the sentiment of bunny talking a bunch

I love it when Vecna is playing

oh man, ease up on the pocketing attempts, you already got me

[rdrivera2005]

No rdr, it's fine to use they/them to refer to a single person.

In portuguese we don't have a gender neutral plural pronoun, so it's hard to me to get this. Well at least I am learning something with Mafia.

In English we don't really have gender neutral pronouns at all, which I think is why some people use they/them.

Are they gender neutral singular pronouns in Portuguese?

They is gender neutral the way I see it, you use it for a group of male or female or whatever.

In portuguese you don't even have an "it" pronoum (this is another interesting thing, you need to know the gender of the objects, most Latin languages have this problem). You have ele/ela (he/she) on singular and eles/elas on plural.

[Tom Bombadil]

I think damo escaped using the “scum wouldn’t possible defend a counter wagon to themselves with hours upon hours to go” and it worked on everyone. I would be less suspicious if he wasn’t the one who brought up this point.

Of the current other mess of wagons, flash and foodcoats seem ok targets to me. Not in my townleans or my don’t vote D1 group.

I townlean Moscow and bozo is a bad D1 wagon.

I don’t really know enough about Macca but I guess I don’t townread him.

Would still prefer damo though

[seth24c]

Why is flash voting himself with 25 minutes to go.

We've got an hour and 20 minutes left.

Oh I see thank you, last game I played ending an hour earlier. The point stands, what is flash doing.

[Vecna]

I think Durga may be scum, but I think Macca's iso is very scummy (I debated whether it could be a new player thing [whether or not they are new - I don't know them] but it's even scummier as a new mafia player, I think). It's super wishy washy and empty. I especially don't like "not having scumreads." DKing an absent player may be bad form but maybe that's a defense strategy. Maybe Durga is bussing Macca. Durga never explained why she moved off of my wagon. Mayhaps an axis of evil.

##VOTE Macca

Like, wtf? Im not sure if this post is scummy, but like....wtf?

[worcej]

Sorry, it's bothering me but Macca has asked to be referred to as they/them or she/her. Definitely anything but "he". Seems like nobody caught that.

That being said, while I'm sympathetic about timezones, I have less sympathy for poor quality of content. Not too thrilled with Macca's contributions and don't really understand this drive by some to forgive them. This is what, Macca's 4th game? At some point you gotta turn that corner and not get newb treatment anymore.

Thanks for catching that - online pronouns are always hard, I default to the male ones far too easily.

[rdrivera2005]

snap, early townreads on Rdrivera. Should I be worried?

I am worried I will be NKed early

I cant remember a single game where u were nK'd early. Wouldnt it be a nice novelty?

Durga NKed at N1 in a mini game not long ago. And I can probably find others but I will let Bozo do this

[kgray]

Why is flash voting himself with 25 minutes to go.

We've got an hour and 20 minutes left.

Oh I see thank you, last game I played ending an hour earlier. The point stands, what is flash doing.

Yeah that I don't know. Off the top of my head I remember two people self-voting (Vecna in M54 and HR in M1015) and they were both town, but it was like a self-righteous/frustrated/indignant thing. Flash here just seems to be giving up which makes me seem it's more likely a ploy.

[worcej]

Anyone know game numbers for scum!food?

Too many people forget about the mafia scoresheet, which is linked on the bot's front page btw...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

[Vecna]

I thought that used to be me.

I used to say it about Jamiet and Bozo too, but most dogs/pokemon learn new tricks or evolve to shoot fireballs at your carpets

With that in mind, how do you feel when an 'old dog/pokemon' seems to be stuck in the mindset of comparing people to their 'normal'?

I dont get the point of this question? It works in some cases, it backfires in others

[kgray]

I think damo escaped using the “scum wouldn’t possible defend a counter wagon to themselves with hours upon hours to go” and it worked on everyone. I would be less suspicious if he wasn’t the one who brought up this point.

I am not sure that's the reason people didn't want to vote damo?

For me it was more the blatant PR fishing and "I'll kill food if he doesn't point out his obvious crumb" that I think is probably too ridiculous to do as scum.

[kgray]

Anyone know game numbers for scum!food?

Too many people forget about the mafia scoresheet, which is linked on the bot's front page btw...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

I've never noticed that, thanks!

[Tom Bombadil]

I think damo escaped using the “scum wouldn’t possible defend a counter wagon to themselves with hours upon hours to go” and it worked on everyone. I would be less suspicious if he wasn’t the one who brought up this point.

I am not sure that's the reason people didn't want to vote damo?

For me it was more the blatant PR fishing and "I'll kill food if he doesn't point out his obvious crumb" that I think is probably too ridiculous to do as scum.

I think damo is fairly ridiculous most of the time, but I haven’t really backed this up with looking at games - just from memory.