M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

This is a good point except that I thought he always had low participation. I'm not opposed to a flash kill

flash has limited history as scum, but what he has done D1 here most matched M47, where he was scum. I suspect he will stay away as long as he is not getting votes.

Why is your stance on voting flash for lurking so different from your stance on voting food for lurking? What makes a flash wagon not pointless?

I have played in 3 games where foodcoats was scum and he was very effective as scum (3-0 as he said), and never used lurking as a scum strategy. I have played 2 games with flash was scum and he lurked in both game, although he lurked more in M47, where he was successful, than in M1013, where he was not successful.

[foodcoats]

Macca's wagon seems lazy to me. Macca's meta has changed here. I'm not sure what that means, but I'm getting the impression they've rolled town.

I agree, and I'm slightly concerned that Macca is low-hanging fruit for scum to push a miskill.

I think Macca's iso is actually scummy. It's very passive-active. He says a lot of vapid stuff that looks like interaction for interaction's sake. And the "I won't be here bye-eeeeee" is... I dunno that's the problem. It's either legitimate or it's an intentional defense by lack of presence. Such is D1 I guess.

[yavuzovic]

My reads including gut feelings

Town
Vecna +
kgray
Flash

Scummmm
Macca !!
MoscowFleet !
BunnyGo !!
bozo
Rdrivera
Worcej

I have been noting these since the morning and I don't remember anymore why I had some of these vibes. Also I townread flash for being less careful and lurky at the same time. Scum lurk because they avoid making a mistake.

[foodcoats]

Why is your stance on voting flash for lurking so different from your stance on voting food for lurking? What makes a flash wagon not pointless?

I can't seriously be compared to flash at this stage in the game, can I? Flash has posted four times.

LIAR!! IT’S FIVE TIMES!!! SCUUUUUUMMMMMMMM

scum < 5

[bozotheclown]

@bozo I apologize for my comment above... that was rude. I always get too loose in this game.

I actually think you're the best player here, but I don't understand why you think we should discuss PRs.

This post makes me really uncomfortable.

Do you think foodcoats would try to pocket me that blatantly, or do you think it is something he would say if we are scum partners?

[kgray]

@bozo I apologize for my comment above... that was rude. I always get too loose in this game.

I actually think you're the best player here, but I don't understand why you think we should discuss PRs.

This post makes me really uncomfortable.

Why?

I'm not sure. I think because the "yelling" at bozo seemed really over-the-top and forced, and apologizing also seems unnatural. It's just really awkward.

[bozotheclown]

My reads including gut feelings

Town
Vecna +
kgray
Flash

Scummmm
Macca !!
MoscowFleet !
BunnyGo !!
bozo
Rdrivera
Worcej

I have been noting these since the morning and I don't remember anymore why I had some of these vibes. Also I townread flash for being less careful and lurky at the same time. Scum lurk because they avoid making a mistake.

I do not know how flash is not being careful, unless you consider his extreme lurking to be not careful.

[kgray]

flash has limited history as scum, but what he has done D1 here most matched M47, where he was scum. I suspect he will stay away as long as he is not getting votes.

Why is your stance on voting flash for lurking so different from your stance on voting food for lurking? What makes a flash wagon not pointless?

I can't seriously be compared to flash at this stage in the game, can I? Flash has posted four times.

No, not anymore. I was referring to bozo calling your wagon pointless earlier but he's now supporting a flash wagon.

[kgray]

Macca's wagon seems lazy to me. Macca's meta has changed here. I'm not sure what that means, but I'm getting the impression they've rolled town.

I agree, and I'm slightly concerned that Macca is low-hanging fruit for scum to push a miskill.

I think yavu made a good point above.

Yes, the comment about Macca looking for advice is valid but I don't necessarily think that asking for other people's opinions is scummy, especially for a new town player.

[hthefourth]

Macca's wagon seems lazy to me. Macca's meta has changed here. I'm not sure what that means, but I'm getting the impression they've rolled town.

I agree, and I'm slightly concerned that Macca is low-hanging fruit for scum to push a miskill.

I think yavu made a good point above.

@kgray the folks voting for Macca have a lot of votes stacked against them. Do you see other evidence that would suggest that Macca is being set up as a miskill? Yavu's point was compelling enough to me.

[bozotheclown]

I am surprised there is no interest in flash today. M47 demonstrated that he will use his history of low D1 participation to his advantage as scum.

This is a good point except that I thought he always had low participation. I'm not opposed to a flash kill

If Flash is scum he will probably get himself killed or scumslip in some bizarre way....

This made me realize I forgot about M56, so I have played in 3 games where flash was scum. flash only had 5 posts D1 in M56 as well.

[BunnyGo]

This is a good point except that I thought he always had low participation. I'm not opposed to a flash kill

If Flash is scum he will probably get himself killed or scumslip in some bizarre way....

This made me realize I forgot about M56, so I have played in 3 games where flash was scum. flash only had 5 posts D1 in M56 as well.

Is his posting pattern significantly different when Town?

[goldfinger0303]

@bozo I apologize for my comment above... that was rude. I always get too loose in this game.

I actually think you're the best player here, but I don't understand why you think we should discuss PRs.

Considering you and damo were the top wagons when damo brought it up, I think damo forced the issue.

I just realized that damo is town. If he was scum and thought I crumbed something worthwhile he'd just propose me as an NK to his team.

That's level 1 thinking.

Why not try to get a suspected PR daykilled? If successful, yay PR dead. If unsuccessful, PR outed and NK lined up. If successful and not a PR, well you saved a NK.

[bozotheclown]

This is looking to be a good game...

If you're town I expect a full 180 of your scum meta

I found this early post by Durga suspicious, it made me think they could be scum partners.

[flash2015]

I am surprised there is no interest in flash today. M47 demonstrated that he will use his history of low D1 participation to his advantage as scum.

This is a good point except that I thought he always had low participation. I'm not opposed to a flash kill

If Flash is scum he will probably get himself killed or scumslip in some bizarre way....

Someone remembers!! Thank you! I have the best scum slips...

[flash2015]

Anyway, I am not opposed to an early exit, as I was just filling up the numbers:

##VOTE flash

[worcej]

Considering you and damo were the top wagons when damo brought it up, I think damo forced the issue.

I just realized that damo is town. If he was scum and thought I crumbed something worthwhile he'd just propose me as an NK to his team.

That's level 1 thinking.

Why not try to get a suspected PR daykilled? If successful, yay PR dead. If unsuccessful, PR outed and NK lined up. If successful and not a PR, well you saved a NK.

This is an example of level 3 thinking.

[bozotheclown]

If Flash is scum he will probably get himself killed or scumslip in some bizarre way....

This made me realize I forgot about M56, so I have played in 3 games where flash was scum. flash only had 5 posts D1 in M56 as well.

Is his posting pattern significantly different when Town?

I have not reviewed all of flash's town games, but he typically does not participate much D1 as town either. However, I believe he does not usually avoid all game related content D1 as town.

[BunnyGo]

Anyway, I am not opposed to an early exit, as I was just filling up the numbers:

##VOTE flash

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vEr0EAcSWcc

[summit_fever]

Anyway, I am not opposed to an early exit, as I was just filling up the numbers:

##VOTE flash

Wonderful.