M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[Durga]

weirdly enough I also think Kgray is finally town. There seems to be a bit more fluidity and a process. I see what others said that played with her as town, and im imagining or observing some subtle differences in the approach.

Rdrivera, would you agree?

She seems more jokey this game but honestly it's a pretty close meta. I'd say she's a good candidate for investigation because of how good her scum game is

[kgray]

Was he given feedback? In scum chat? After game?

I mean, you can go read it if you want. But yeah, we talked in scumchat about how much he was lurking and I said I couldn't believe he was getting away with it. And after the game I blatantly told him I'd vote for him if he played that way again and I was town. But I just don't think this kind of thing is easy to change, even if you get feedback. His discomfort level last game was palpable, and I don't think that's something you can just switch off.

Thoughts on Seth so far?

I had no thoughts on seth, so I ISOd him, and I still have very few thoughts on seth. He hasn't really posted any of his own ideas/opinions and has asked a few people some general questions, which I think could be scum trying to hide. But at the same time he also seems relatively comfortable, which makes me think not scum. So null.

[Durga]

Okay in all seriousness, I have no real scum reads yet.

##vote foodcoats

i'm willing to give summit a bit more time to blossom. he should be pretty easy to read if he's scum. his meta was day and night.

happy to vote macca too, since he hasn't actually changed.

macca I expect you to be online EoD since last time you said you could actually do it you just chose not to bc you're scum

Given the discussion after EOG last game, where you seemed to agree that hipfiring votes at lurkers isn't likely to pay-off for town, how come you are now doing exactly that?

Or is there another reason to get Food?

How does one hip fire 24 hours b4 deadline?

[Durga]

durga?

Hi?

[bozotheclown]

Is the food wagon just for lurking? Do people care to state other opinions?

In my opinion, the foodcoats wagon is a waste of time. At some point foodcoats will show up and post a lot, and everyone will move their vote. I think flash or Macca would be better choices for anyone interested in voting for a low information slot, they are more likely to end D1 with little to go on based on their history.

fwiw, I'm not voting food because its' a low info slot. I'm voting him because this low level of activity (so far, I see he's just arrived) is crazy different from what I think of as his town game.

I have reviewed the games where foodcoats was scum, and even though it is true his average daily post counts have been lower as scum, he has never started D1 with low enough activity to get killed D1 for it.

[Tom Bombadil]

Bozo? Thoughts? Maybe top 4 Town reads?

I will go along with whatever you want to ask for.

How about top for town?

Right now mine are:

Flum, Vecna, TRPrado, Rdr

What are your reasons for these townreads?

[rdrivera2005]

Where are you getting this from, summit?

It's my opinion stated unequivocably as fact. I remember town!kgray asking lots of questions and coming up with conclusions that were often in line with my thoughts.

I believe you also felt similarly when I was scum and you were town

No, this was me on the first game you were scum....

[rdrivera2005]

Alright somewhat caught up now, thanks Bunny/Bozo for making it so hard to tell the difference between your posts. I think the only difference is whether a youtube link is included. That said, I am not sure why the multiple back to back votes by bozo was a thing, that felt a little off to me.

I don't think I like this post.

Why is it hard to tell the difference between bozo and bunny?

Both start with a "B"?

[TrPrado]

I mean, I think the reasons are pretty thin. However, that may be more an indication of me being a noob to this game online (i.e. without the benefit of body language/tone) than anything else. Most times I've played, the bit "such and such looks suspicious" without further elaboration is just lazy shit-throwing, which doesn't help the town win even if the person doing it is actually town.

Now that I have seen that Bunny has rationale for their accusations, I can't complain.

You probably still can complain. Do you have thoughts on anyone else?

I'm still rather dizzied by this game--so much text to sift through with only the barest actual commitment to action (i.e. the handful of day votes). Reminds me of spring 1901 of a high roller game. With no real experience of anyone in this chat besides the odd diplomacy game or any voting patterns in this game to go off, I'm approaching it like a hockey ref approaches a scrum--just grab someone who looks like they're causing trouble and punish accordingly (a hockey ref would likely grab one from each team, but roll with me). Tom and Bunny's disagreement has caught my attention, as has summit and bozotheclown. Not nearly enough evidence to make a solid claim that any of these folks are mafia, but enough to votekill, wascally world that we live in.

That's a lot of words that I do not feel motivated to read, so I just skimmed through until I saw names. You say the disagreements caught your attention, why? Tell me your purpose and you secrets.

[kgray]

Bozo? Thoughts? Maybe top 4 Town reads?

I will go along with whatever you want to ask for.

How about top for town?

Right now mine are:

Flum, Vecna, TRPrado, Rdr

Mine are: summit, Vecna, worcej, Tom

[rdrivera2005]

weirdly enough I also think Kgray is finally town. There seems to be a bit more fluidity and a process. I see what others said that played with her as town, and im imagining or observing some subtle differences in the approach.

Rdrivera, would you agree?

I think Kgray is completelly capable to fake his town meta, she did it last mini-game after I pushed her D1 for not been natural and giving bad reads.

This said, I think she is town this game and also summit and you. And probably Bunny.

I dont like thefourth and Moscow until now. I also don´t feel town Bozo, but I am usually wrong about him.

[kgray]

In my opinion, the foodcoats wagon is a waste of time. At some point foodcoats will show up and post a lot, and everyone will move their vote. I think flash or Macca would be better choices for anyone interested in voting for a low information slot, they are more likely to end D1 with little to go on based on their history.

fwiw, I'm not voting food because its' a low info slot. I'm voting him because this low level of activity (so far, I see he's just arrived) is crazy different from what I think of as his town game.

I have reviewed the games where foodcoats was scum, and even though it is true his average daily post counts have been lower as scum, he has never started D1 with low enough activity to get killed D1 for it.

I've never played with scum!food and I haven't looked through his past games. All I'm saying is that I expect more from town!food. His long post was alright, I guess, but I'm not going to change my opinion that him lurking is suspicious just because he puts out a mini-wall after becoming a viable wagon.

[BunnyGo]

I mean, you can go read it if you want. But yeah, we talked in scumchat about how much he was lurking and I said I couldn't believe he was getting away with it. And after the game I blatantly told him I'd vote for him if he played that way again and I was town. But I just don't think this kind of thing is easy to change, even if you get feedback. His discomfort level last game was palpable, and I don't think that's something you can just switch off.

Thoughts on Seth so far?

I had no thoughts on seth, so I ISOd him, and I still have very few thoughts on seth. He hasn't really posted any of his own ideas/opinions and has asked a few people some general questions, which I think could be scum trying to hide. But at the same time he also seems relatively comfortable, which makes me think not scum. So null.

How was he last game on your team?

[kgray]

Thoughts on Seth so far?

I had no thoughts on seth, so I ISOd him, and I still have very few thoughts on seth. He hasn't really posted any of his own ideas/opinions and has asked a few people some general questions, which I think could be scum trying to hide. But at the same time he also seems relatively comfortable, which makes me think not scum. So null.

How was he last game on your team?

? I've never played with him. My team last game was summit and Macca.

[BunnyGo]

I will go along with whatever you want to ask for.

How about top for town?

Right now mine are:

Flum, Vecna, TRPrado, Rdr

What are your reasons for these townreads?

We’re giving reasons too? Woweee, no wonder I suck at this game.

Flum and Vecna for activity without triggering my Bunny Sense. They’re here and talking and it isn’t all just dumb stuff. TRPrado seems to be fearless and interacting. Rdr seems quiet but not hiding. He’s usually timid when scum.

[BunnyGo]

I will go along with whatever you want to ask for.

How about top for town?

Right now mine are:

Flum, Vecna, TRPrado, Rdr

What are your reasons for these townreads?

But the point is EVERYONE name top 4 reads. I don’t care if reasons aren’t given or not. I’m dumb like that.

[BunnyGo]

weirdly enough I also think Kgray is finally town. There seems to be a bit more fluidity and a process. I see what others said that played with her as town, and im imagining or observing some subtle differences in the approach.

Rdrivera, would you agree?

I think Kgray is completelly capable to fake his town meta, she did it last mini-game after I pushed her D1 for not been natural and giving bad reads.

This said, I think she is town this game and also summit and you. And probably Bunny.

I dont like thefourth and Moscow until now. I also don´t feel town Bozo, but I am usually wrong about him.

(Her)

[BunnyGo]

weirdly enough I also think Kgray is finally town. There seems to be a bit more fluidity and a process. I see what others said that played with her as town, and im imagining or observing some subtle differences in the approach.

Rdrivera, would you agree?

I think Kgray is completelly capable to fake his town meta, she did it last mini-game after I pushed her D1 for not been natural and giving bad reads.

This said, I think she is town this game and also summit and you. And probably Bunny.

I dont like thefourth and Moscow until now. I also don´t feel town Bozo, but I am usually wrong about him.

(Her)

Sorry. I should read whole post before correcting someone else’s pronouns. Clearly you know and had a typo.

[Tom Bombadil]

So you think Vecna's suspicion of Flum is misguided then Bunny?

[bozotheclown]

Bozo? Thoughts? Maybe top 4 Town reads?

I will go along with whatever you want to ask for.

How about top for town?

Right now mine are:

Flum, Vecna, TRPrado, Rdr

Fluminator, rdrivera, TrPrado, summit