M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[yavuzovic]

Soooo...seems yazu doesn’t have anything to actually say. Just complain about something inane and then disappear. I see you yazu.

I spoke what must be spoken. That's all. If you want me to continue, I will probably dig a hole for you.

[Tom Bombadil]

Question 1) do you have a picture of you in the Taz shirt to share?
Question 2) did you realize that mentioning you knew almost everyone and then mentioning Taz could be construed as a (admittedly obvious and ham handed) signal?

1) Maybe? I mean, I can check but I’m not digging through the attic or anything.
2) I don’t see how me mentioning I knew almost everyone can be construed as anything tbh. The Taz mention was what it seems on the surface - a comment on the flavor. The google doc in the setup thread had no flavor names and that was the setup I was reviewing so, yeah.

Are you saying you did not read the game setup in this thread to see if there were any updates since the sign up thread?

I mean I looked at it, but the setup in this thread was just a copy and paste of role PMs. I didn’t read all of them, no since the setup was already in place.

[bozotheclown]

Hm. I just looked back. I thought bozo was boring me for the same reason as damo - for essentially thinking I referenced tax to signal to scumteam. But he voted me before mentioning that, so I guess I don’t really know why he voted me.

But yes, I think bozo bringing that idea up and considering it plausible is strange, yes.

I did not give any indication about how plausible I considered the speculation that you are the traitor.

Does kgray do this rabid questioning thing as town too?

Do you find either question particularly suspicious?

Pocketing kgray while voting for her?

##VOTE Tom

First of all - I'm not a Predators fan? Regardless, what you really need to know is the Leafs are hilariously underwhelming every year - but you already know that.

Second - welcome back, but please don't lurk like you always do. Thanks.

When was the last time you played with MF?

##VOTE Tom

In case I was not clear, I voted for you the first time because you were defending kgray in a way that could be an attempt at pocketing, and I voted for you the second time because of you asking MF not to lurk as he "always" does, without an attempt to determine if that claim is accurate. When was the last time you played with MF?

[MoscowFleet]

I will move my joke vote off of Tom and place a slightly more serious vote on ##vote summit. What struck you as scummy from Vecna? Why do you have like 6 separate joke-posts?

Also Bunny, if you could chill just a bit and not clog up the thread so much, that would be great. I love your activity, but let's try to keep it mafia-related please. If I have to read any more about which cartoon character you are, I'm going to go a bit... loony.

[Tom Bombadil]

It’s been a long time since I played with MF. But I remember him both being subbed out occasionally and lurking frequently.

[MoscowFleet]

Ah, bozo. Full disclosure to all, I am totally down to off bozo on principle if people are interested. I don't care if I go next, still worth it.

[yavuzovic]

I don't believe you are Bugs. Bugs Bunny never got frustrated. You must be Daffy...

I’m not claiming to be either. And personality wise I’m most like Foghorn or maybe Marvin. Sometimes Mortimer. Bugs and Daffy just have the best videos. Still looking for a chance to use the one where Bugs does Mortimer’s nails. God I love looney tunes. (My dad may have had looney tunes plates for us growing up, not just for the kids, they were our only plates. Also at least 3 rooms had looney tunes wallpaper).

I am having a problem understanding some comments as I don't know the characters names in English. I think I will need to do some research

Same. Took some time to understand that the Taz T-shirt is referring to that brown monster that we call Tasmanian devil. Apparently it's interchangeable in English

[Tom Bombadil]

Ah, bozo. Full disclosure to all, I am totally down to off bozo on principle if people are interested. I don't care if I go next, still worth it.

Why would we vote bozo on principle? What principle?

[MoscowFleet]

The principle that people who throw games are inherently and forever anti-town.

[Tom Bombadil]

I missed something then. Link to game you are referring to?

[MoscowFleet]

I see foodcoats is lurking. Flash has also been absent, although apparently that's characteristic. Overall a ton of people who have barely said anything, and that's really going to hurt us late game.

kgray's play so far I think is very towny. I dislike damo, he seems similar to M1014 where he was scum. The post where he votes for Tom ironically strikes me as what kgray was accusing me of earlier, joining a wagon but deflecting the credit.

[MoscowFleet]

I missed something then. Link to game you are referring to?

http://mafia.peterlund.se/m1014/

[bozotheclown]

The principle that people who throw games are inherently and forever anti-town.

I did not "throw" M1014, I tried something that worked out poorly for town which was obviously not my intention.

[damo666]

Well this is a little interesting to wake up to.

I don’t get any read on Bunny from this as he tends to latch onto everything and anything and pursue it.

I would have thought bozo and damo had better opinions of me than to think I would do something as idiotic as they are speculating.

Kgray and sort of Vecna defending me a bit. Kgray pocketed me hard last game - don’t know she’d try to do it consecutively - so slight townread for her.

I am not speculating, I asked if you were trying to get recruited because it was being discussed. I do not think you would make that post as the real traitor, but possibly to try to draw the mafia recruit or at least keep them from killing you N1. My guess was that it was not related to the traitor name, which does not preclude you from being on the mafia team.

Then why are you voting me? Your explanation seems to come to the conclusion that after all of that it’s pretty NAI?

And for what it’s worth, there was no scheme intended. It’s was literally a memory from me as a kid that the flavor reminded me of.

OK that's believable

##unvote

[damo666]

I am going to park a ##vote food for lurking

[MoscowFleet]

I am not speculating, I asked if you were trying to get recruited because it was being discussed. I do not think you would make that post as the real traitor, but possibly to try to draw the mafia recruit or at least keep them from killing you N1. My guess was that it was not related to the traitor name, which does not preclude you from being on the mafia team.

Then why are you voting me? Your explanation seems to come to the conclusion that after all of that it’s pretty NAI?

And for what it’s worth, there was no scheme intended. It’s was literally a memory from me as a kid that the flavor reminded me of.

OK that's believable

##unvote

This doesn't answer the question, damo. If you didn't think he was the traitor, what were you referring to when you said "Is it worth taking the risk?".

[bozotheclown]

1) Maybe? I mean, I can check but I’m not digging through the attic or anything.
2) I don’t see how me mentioning I knew almost everyone can be construed as anything tbh. The Taz mention was what it seems on the surface - a comment on the flavor. The google doc in the setup thread had no flavor names and that was the setup I was reviewing so, yeah.

Are you saying you did not read the game setup in this thread to see if there were any updates since the sign up thread?

I mean I looked at it, but the setup in this thread was just a copy and paste of role PMs. I didn’t read all of them, no since the setup was already in place.

I would expect you to look at the names assigned to role to at least look for potential crumbing by others.

[hthefourth]

##vote BunnyGo . I can't think of many concrete reasons to votekill someone this early in the game, but casting the vaguest of shades on someone else is one of them. Also I didn't find Tom's posts odd. Also I'm not sucking up. Also I'm town. Also... I'll stop now.

Interesting defense of Tom. Out of the blue.

I thought so too.

@hthefourth, assuming you now know why Bunny thought Tom's post seemed odd, do you still think he has scum motivations for bringing it up?

I mean, I think the reasons are pretty thin. However, that may be more an indication of me being a noob to this game online (i.e. without the benefit of body language/tone) than anything else. Most times I've played, the bit "such and such looks suspicious" without further elaboration is just lazy shit-throwing, which doesn't help the town win even if the person doing it is actually town.

Now that I have seen that Bunny has rationale for their accusations, I can't complain.

[damo666]

Then why are you voting me? Your explanation seems to come to the conclusion that after all of that it’s pretty NAI?

And for what it’s worth, there was no scheme intended. It’s was literally a memory from me as a kid that the flavor reminded me of.

OK that's believable

##unvote

This doesn't answer the question, damo. If you didn't think he was the traitor, what were you referring to when you said "Is it worth taking the risk?".

I don't follow. It is what I was referring to.

[yavuzovic]

What do we have now
> Tom blatantly referring to Tazmanian Devil
> Hthe has an objection about it and votes BunnyGo for this claim. ( Actually towny for Bunny)
> Bozo follows him but doesn't seem serious and it's too early to suggest a lynch. Right after that he places a bunch of votes which is weird.

Am I missing an important point? I'm usually careless.

(By the way, looking Vecna's messages; he is like the great town Vecna. Doesn't have a long serious post but touches important points. I don't remember the exact game (it's been some time I haven't played) where he was a difficult town player for us the scums.)