M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo: HR is already asking this but because you're not really answering it:

Do you think there's a serious possibility Hamilton Brian is town?

If so, how? Explain his votes from a town perspective?

If you're sure he's scum, why are you so reluctant to vote for him?

I think it is possible HB is town and an easy target. I think HB's D1 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with you, and HB's D2 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with HR.

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo: HR is already asking this but because you're not really answering it:

Do you think there's a serious possibility Hamilton Brian is town?

If so, how? Explain his votes from a town perspective?

If you're sure he's scum, why are you so reluctant to vote for him?

I think it is possible HB is town and an easy target. I think HB's D1 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with you, and HB's D2 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with HR.

The biggest problem with this theory is that it would mean bo_sox is town.

[Hellenic Riot]

@Bozo: HR is already asking this but because you're not really answering it:

Do you think there's a serious possibility Hamilton Brian is town?

If so, how? Explain his votes from a town perspective?

If you're sure he's scum, why are you so reluctant to vote for him?

I think it is possible HB is town and an easy target. I think HB's D1 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with you, and HB's D2 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with HR.

You're still not answering the question:

How do HB's actions make sense as town?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozo: How is that second one even an "odd interaction"?? I asked a perfectly reasonable question and Hamilton Brian gave a weak answer, sure, but that's not my fault and is not a good reason to scumread me, which apparently you do.

It is HB's voted and posts that make you look like his partner if he is scum.

That's not an interaction then, is it? Because it doesn't rely on anything that I've done.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozo: HR is already asking this but because you're not really answering it:

Do you think there's a serious possibility Hamilton Brian is town?

If so, how? Explain his votes from a town perspective?

If you're sure he's scum, why are you so reluctant to vote for him?

I think it is possible HB is town and an easy target. I think HB's D1 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with you, and HB's D2 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with HR.

And what if both of me and HR are town?

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo is currently using very circular logic.

1. HB looks like scum D1 if Jamie is scum, and:

2. Jamie looks like scum because of HB's "interactions" with Jamie, in which Jamie was a bystander.

Uh-huh.

[Hamilton Brian]

What a veritable lesson in how shit I am as a town player this game. I think the bigger games allow me some leeway since there is a bigger pool. This small one...yeesh.

As I said before, a vote for me is a vote for letting the real scum get away with it. I'll acknowledge my level of suck, and I'll go back and reflect on why this one has been so bad.

Myself and another town are killed for Day 3. That closes the clock and makes things considerable harder for town going forward.

I have to go discuss the veterinary bill with our neighbours. When I return I will try to go through and clear up any questions as best as I can (which, according to Foxcastle, my best is worthless).

Take note of those that have been VERY vocal and swift to execute me.

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo: HR is already asking this but because you're not really answering it:

Do you think there's a serious possibility Hamilton Brian is town?

If so, how? Explain his votes from a town perspective?

If you're sure he's scum, why are you so reluctant to vote for him?

I think it is possible HB is town and an easy target. I think HB's D1 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with you, and HB's D2 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with HR.

You're still not answering the question:

How do HB's actions make sense as town?

Ugh, just now realizing through the vote log of how much damage I did by switching my vote from Jamie to Damo. Wouldn't have made a great deal of difference since Damo was clearly going to be the unlucky one as no count increased sufficiently.

Could you explain your thought process during your vote moves at EoD?

I thought my erratic pattern might have forced scum to move to ensure a D1 kill as opposed to ending in a tie. As I reflect on it, I think a tie would have been a better outcome. I think...

If HB is town, I assume this is the real reason for his D1 votes. Maybe D2 he thought it was a good idea to have 2 wagons at EOD, he would not be the first town to think that.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo is currently using very circular logic.

1. HB looks like scum D1 if Jamie is scum, and:

2. Jamie looks like scum because of HB's "interactions" with Jamie, in which Jamie was a bystander.

Uh-huh.

It is not logically inconsistent to think certain things make you look like possible scum partners. Why did you ignore HB the rest of D2 after he answered your question?

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo: HR is already asking this but because you're not really answering it:

Do you think there's a serious possibility Hamilton Brian is town?

If so, how? Explain his votes from a town perspective?

If you're sure he's scum, why are you so reluctant to vote for him?

I think it is possible HB is town and an easy target. I think HB's D1 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with you, and HB's D2 makes more sense as scum if he is scum with HR.

And what if both of me and HR are town?

If you and HR are town, the main concern I would have is why HB avoided voting for HR D2.

[Hamilton Brian]

I'll try to tackle these in order; might not be directed at me, but I still have observations.

#771: Bo_ is pissed that the Day Kill ended in a tie. Calls out Summit for playing bullshit?

#772: @kgray, tell me specifically why my vote was scummy? Why are you, from this post, linked so closely to HR? NonTown vibes from you. When HR flips scum, that's going to look bad on you.

#774: HR, I didn't disappear into thin air. I wasn't lurking. I did what I felt was the right thing to do then politely dismissed myself out. I know you want to keep reaching to make the case on me.

#775: At least summit...pockets me? And come on Rivera, get your vote in!

#776: Bo_ now on the HB wagon. Don't blame you; apparently I am a detriment and this gives me a flashback to the game where Durga and Damo were scum. Poor Goldie tried to plead a case against me but he came off as scummy.

#777: HR blah blah blah. Can't listen to the excuses anymore. How can anyone following me NOT recognize me as town? There is madness to my method, and it definitely needs work because I am not helping town.

#778: Just realized that Bo_ also posted END. Come on, really? That is so damned scummy! Boo!!!!! I had faith in you. (Are you and HR in this together? Who's your 3rd? Summit or kgray?)

#779: Bozo with some sense. Yes, we were saved a mis-kill. Cost us Vecna anyway, but did it really "cost" us? Vecna was kind of in and out.

#780: HR challenging Jamie on the reads on me.

To be continued.

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo is currently using very circular logic.

1. HB looks like scum D1 if Jamie is scum, and:

2. Jamie looks like scum because of HB's "interactions" with Jamie, in which Jamie was a bystander.

Uh-huh.

It is not logically inconsistent to think certain things make you look like possible scum partners. Why did you ignore HB the rest of D2 after he answered your question?

On what basis do you purport that I was ignoring him?

[bozotheclown]

No idea. Why do you feel like I'm busing?

Probably because you've moved to Hamilton at the end of each day so far while voting someone else all day, like you really just want to be on his wagon.

Why did you scumread HB before his dumbassery voting summit?

Almost none of his posts seem like they come from a town perspective. Did you read what he said about why he flipped between damo and Jamie D1? It's complete nonsense and I find it very unlikely to come from a town mindset.

Why did you wait until 7 minute before D2 EOD to vote for HB then? When HR asked you about HB during D2, you seemed to come up with some potential town reasons for HB's D1 votes.

[Hellenic Riot]

I'll try to tackle these in order; might not be directed at me, but I still have observations.

#771: Bo_ is pissed that the Day Kill ended in a tie. Calls out Summit for playing bullshit?

#772: @kgray, tell me specifically why my vote was scummy? Why are you, from this post, linked so closely to HR? NonTown vibes from you. When HR flips scum, that's going to look bad on you.

#774: HR, I didn't disappear into thin air. I wasn't lurking. I did what I felt was the right thing to do then politely dismissed myself out. I know you want to keep reaching to make the case on me.

#775: At least summit...pockets me? And come on Rivera, get your vote in!

#776: Bo_ now on the HB wagon. Don't blame you; apparently I am a detriment and this gives me a flashback to the game where Durga and Damo were scum. Poor Goldie tried to plead a case against me but he came off as scummy.

#777: HR blah blah blah. Can't listen to the excuses anymore. How can anyone following me NOT recognize me as town? There is madness to my method, and it definitely needs work because I am not helping town.

#778: Just realized that Bo_ also posted END. Come on, really? That is so damned scummy! Boo!!!!! I had faith in you. (Are you and HR in this together? Who's your 3rd? Summit or kgray?)

#779: Bozo with some sense. Yes, we were saved a mis-kill. Cost us Vecna anyway, but did it really "cost" us? Vecna was kind of in and out.

#780: HR challenging Jamie on the reads on me.

To be continued.

Why are you simultaneously calling me scum for not recognising you're town and saying you're doing so badly that you don't blame other people for voting you? Lmao

[bozotheclown]

Bozo is currently using very circular logic.

1. HB looks like scum D1 if Jamie is scum, and:

2. Jamie looks like scum because of HB's "interactions" with Jamie, in which Jamie was a bystander.

Uh-huh.

It is not logically inconsistent to think certain things make you look like possible scum partners. Why did you ignore HB the rest of D2 after he answered your question?

On what basis do you purport that I was ignoring him?

You did not talk about him much the rest of the day, and you did not vote for him and voted for both his counter wagons, yet you were willing to vote for HB D3. If you preferred killing HR or summit over HB D2, what has changed your mind? HR and summit are still in the game.

[Hellenic Riot]

I'm glad that three hours later Bozo has finally started asking useful questions

[Hamilton Brian]

Jesus, a lot of pages to go through.

#783: Bo_, to Bozo, declares Bozo has a terrible question, but then also suggests, "Hey, look at who HR was voting for/scumreads" in relation to the D2 vote.

#784: Summit calling out HR for them screwing up the vote.

#785: Jamie to HR, paraphrasing, "you have a nice way of twisting what I say." Does call my vote for Summit suspicious. Yeah, no fault there.

#787: Turns out I felt Jamie was more town that Summit. It was an easy choice to migrate that vote, and again, the HR wagon seemed to be a forgone conclusion.

#789: Bo_ turning on Summit about the resulting tie vote.

#790: Jamie moving more solidly into the "HB is scum" camp under assumption scum!me would bus scum!summit. If only I were scum...

#791: kgray going after some minutiae from Jamie about timing of post; is this their way of latching on to something to create the air of suspicion? Jamie clears this up in #793, which was preceded by voting for me.

On to page 41.

[Hamilton Brian]

Why are you simultaneously calling me scum for not recognising you're town and saying you're doing so badly that you don't blame other people for voting you? Lmao

Calling you scum because you are; I'm just apologizing to everyone else.

[bo_sox48]

HB are you going post by post?

[Jamiet99uk]

HB are you going post by post?

Jesus if he's doing that, we might be some time.