Mafia 57 Matrix

[Hamilton Brian]

I've read this thrice now, and not only do I have trouble gleaning your thoughts; I'm concerned you may be a neural net that has been successfully passing the Turing Test until now.

Right, be concise and clear. Ghug wants to wagon Foxcastle. Foxcastle's rebuttal is pretty lame. If they were my only consideration I'd probably vote for them.

Suppose Foxcastle's hypothesis is correct in that one is not aligned with the other, so:
a) Nanook is not scum, but HR is.
b) Nanook is scum, but HR is town.

I'm inclined this way:

##vote nanook

[Hamilton Brian]

has been successfully passing the Turing Test until now.

That is pretty funny.

[BunnyGo]

I've read this thrice now, and not only do I have trouble gleaning your thoughts; I'm concerned you may be a neural net that has been successfully passing the Turing Test until now.

Right, be concise and clear. Ghug wants to wagon Foxcastle. Foxcastle's rebuttal is pretty lame. If they were my only consideration I'd probably vote for them.

Suppose Foxcastle's hypothesis is correct in that one is not aligned with the other, so:
a) Nanook is not scum, but HR is.
b) Nanook is scum, but HR is town.

I'm inclined this way:

##vote nanook

Why's that your inclination?

[BunnyGo]

has been successfully passing the Turing Test until now.

That is pretty funny.

I try. I'm glad someone else besides me and the GT appreciates it.

And I'm not sure about the GT.

[bo_sox48]

I've read this thrice now, and not only do I have trouble gleaning your thoughts; I'm concerned you may be a neural net that has been successfully passing the Turing Test until now.

Right, be concise and clear. Ghug wants to wagon Foxcastle. Foxcastle's rebuttal is pretty lame. If they were my only consideration I'd probably vote for them.

Suppose Foxcastle's hypothesis is correct in that one is not aligned with the other, so:
a) Nanook is not scum, but HR is.
b) Nanook is scum, but HR is town.

I'm inclined this way:

##vote nanook

Why's that your inclination?

I would love to hear the answer to this as well.

[Nanook]

I would expect anyone who wants to have a genuine conversation to ask why. I had to run for a quick bit in the middle of this but here's the post I just finished writing up.

....

Something has caught my eye rereading Nanook:

Day 1:



Day 3:



Having the 5th most posts at two points in the game isn’t scummy, but using it as a benchmark for not being a lurker/putting in effort absolutely is.

Additionally, mostly just for fun, here are some of the various excuses and/or whataboutisms that he is using to apparently be the 5th highest poster.











Not the greatest case ever written but the 5th highest poster thing is just way too weird. I'm getting pretty confident in this one.

I mean what “genuine conversation” am I supposed to have with a naked vote for me, what even is that thought? Also, like...we already talked. He votes me without adding anything. How is that something you see and go “yes nanook should be responding to this clear intent to discuss.”

Gtfo here

I don't know what a naked vote is, but there's clearly discussion to be had. I don't know how to make that any more clear to you than I already have. You could also choose to address what is driving my feeling toward you - what is with your obsession with being the 5th highest poster?

I like the number 5, idk

And like, what discussion did you expect to illicit with a vote on me? Like did you expect me to go “oh I see you’ve voted me kind sir, even though we had a fairly lengthy discussion last night and no interactions I can remember since then, would you like to talk it out?”

If you want to have a conversation then talk to me, a vote and nothing else isn’t gonna be what starts a conversation with me lol

[Hamilton Brian]

Why's that your inclination?

In a game of logic I hate to let emotion be a deciding factor, but the whole exchange with Nanook yesterday, which I simply read, just rubbed me wrong. I said earlier that I didn't think Nanook was necessarily scum, but they weren't pro-town with that exchange. The more I sit with it, I don't like it. Now I might sleep on it and realize, "Brian, no one is going to play that way on purpose. They won't respond in a way that would encourage to want to eliminate them."

There are still some people we have not heard from. EMC (again...). I feel like Bismarck needs to be throwing down with some posters and get rid of the two votes. Therul needs to explain beyond their two posts why they're landing on Bismarck. You've offered somewhat of a rationale; they haven't .

I'd also love to hear more from FlyingBoat.

I've got a notepad that's been all crumpled up and tossed aside.

[bo_sox48]

I mean what “genuine conversation” am I supposed to have with a naked vote for me, what even is that thought? Also, like...we already talked. He votes me without adding anything. How is that something you see and go “yes nanook should be responding to this clear intent to discuss.”

Gtfo here

I don't know what a naked vote is, but there's clearly discussion to be had. I don't know how to make that any more clear to you than I already have. You could also choose to address what is driving my feeling toward you - what is with your obsession with being the 5th highest poster?

I like the number 5, idk

And like, what discussion did you expect to illicit with a vote on me? Like did you expect me to go “oh I see you’ve voted me kind sir, even though we had a fairly lengthy discussion last night and no interactions I can remember since then, would you like to talk it out?”

If you want to have a conversation then talk to me, a vote and nothing else isn’t gonna be what starts a conversation with me lol

It's pretty clear to me that you've been coached to keep from sticking your neck out. Probably not the worst gameplan in the world. So long as you're sticking with that, fair enough, no need to talk further.

[bo_sox48]

I mean what “genuine conversation” am I supposed to have with a naked vote for me, what even is that thought? Also, like...we already talked. He votes me without adding anything. How is that something you see and go “yes nanook should be responding to this clear intent to discuss.”

Gtfo here

I don't know what a naked vote is, but there's clearly discussion to be had. I don't know how to make that any more clear to you than I already have. You could also choose to address what is driving my feeling toward you - what is with your obsession with being the 5th highest poster?

I like the number 5, idk

And like, what discussion did you expect to illicit with a vote on me? Like did you expect me to go “oh I see you’ve voted me kind sir, even though we had a fairly lengthy discussion last night and no interactions I can remember since then, would you like to talk it out?”

If you want to have a conversation then talk to me, a vote and nothing else isn’t gonna be what starts a conversation with me lol

Lol did you really remove the quotes I was using to build my case on you from these posts?

[bo_sox48]

##VOTE Nanook

BLAND

I would expect anyone who wants to have a genuine conversation to ask why. I had to run for a quick bit in the middle of this but here's the post I just finished writing up.

....

Something has caught my eye rereading Nanook:

Day 1:

K, going for my nap now. Happy as I can be with my vote rn

5th most posts in the game not bad for a lurker

Day 3:

And like...my low effort is still 5th most posts in the game so meh

Having the 5th most posts at two points in the game isn’t scummy, but using it as a benchmark for not being a lurker/putting in effort absolutely is.

Additionally, mostly just for fun, here are some of the various excuses and/or whataboutisms that he is using to apparently be the 5th highest poster.

That's a dramatic departure from the narcissist and egomaniac I had you pegged for on D1.

Given that your "usual approach" is not going to be as effective since you don't know any of us, what have you done to adapt your approach?

Yeh I forget sometimes my humor doesn’t translate. When I say stuff like “I’m a professional mafia player” or “git gud” or whatever it’s meant tongue in cheek


(Although technically I think I am a professional!)


Honestly I don’t reallllly have enough time to adapt much, I’m pretty much just trying to keep abreast until we get a scum flip then I can do some vote count stuff, which isn’t particularly good without meta attached but is at least better than throwing darts.

Like right now I can say I think Hellenic Riot is kinda scum, but like...would I bet the game on it?? Probably not, but I like...don’t have a better read so

Try being useful in this one.

What have you done, in this game, to help town?

Not died yet, that’s something

Otherwise I haven’t done anything objectively useful, then again nobody has so

You don't think you should post at night because you don't think your reads are important.

Why?

Why would my reads be important? A) I don’t know any of you, so my reads are mostly of the low confidence variety, and b) even if I had high confidence reads, none of you know me enough to not immediately discard them after I die.

I have no meaningful opinion on him, if I did I would’ve shared it lol

I’m not really in a position to push things, based on newness to the playerlist (both cause it makes me less than certain in my reads and because none of you particularly have reason to trust my accuracy), and time constraints.

Can you do something other than proclaim how good you are without showing us even the slightest semblance of evidence that you are coherent

I could link you to games I guess lolol

Not the greatest case ever written but the 5th highest poster thing is just way too weird. I'm getting pretty confident in this one.

[Nanook]

I don't know what a naked vote is, but there's clearly discussion to be had. I don't know how to make that any more clear to you than I already have. You could also choose to address what is driving my feeling toward you - what is with your obsession with being the 5th highest poster?

I like the number 5, idk

And like, what discussion did you expect to illicit with a vote on me? Like did you expect me to go “oh I see you’ve voted me kind sir, even though we had a fairly lengthy discussion last night and no interactions I can remember since then, would you like to talk it out?”

If you want to have a conversation then talk to me, a vote and nothing else isn’t gonna be what starts a conversation with me lol

It's pretty clear to me that you've been coached to keep from sticking your neck out. Probably not the worst gameplan in the world. So long as you're sticking with that, fair enough, no need to talk further.

Lmao, my dude, I don’t get coached

[bo_sox48]

Just gonna bring those back for everyone's viewing pleasure. Did you think I wasn't going to notice that lmao

[Nanook]

I didn’t remove anything I don’t think?

[bo_sox48]

I like the number 5, idk

And like, what discussion did you expect to illicit with a vote on me? Like did you expect me to go “oh I see you’ve voted me kind sir, even though we had a fairly lengthy discussion last night and no interactions I can remember since then, would you like to talk it out?”

If you want to have a conversation then talk to me, a vote and nothing else isn’t gonna be what starts a conversation with me lol

It's pretty clear to me that you've been coached to keep from sticking your neck out. Probably not the worst gameplan in the world. So long as you're sticking with that, fair enough, no need to talk further.

Lmao, my dude, I don’t get coached

[Nanook]

Maybe I cleared stuff out by accident idk. I mean clearly that isn’t something I would do on purpose lol, in what world would doing that have any effect

[bo_sox48]

I didn’t remove anything I don’t think?

Don't know if you removed them or phpBB is just that badly designed. Either way, I'm not letting them disappear.

[Nanook]

For someone who says they want to generate discussion you seem pretty keen on just being a trolly dick

[bo_sox48]

Maybe I cleared stuff out by accident idk. I mean clearly that isn’t something I would do on purpose lol, in what world would doing that have any effect

Well they're the posts I used to build my case on you, removing them from this conversation that people are probably not going to read in great detail definitely makes it less likely that people actually read my case lol

[Nanook]

Maybe I cleared stuff out by accident idk. I mean clearly that isn’t something I would do on purpose lol, in what world would doing that have any effect

Well they're the posts I used to build my case on you, removing them from this conversation that people are probably not going to read in great detail definitely makes it less likely that people actually read my case lol

Ok dude, believe whatever you want, idc

[bo_sox48]

For someone who says they want to generate discussion you seem pretty keen on just being a trolly dick

And if you were town you would have stuck with your original sentiment of not giving a damn if I was voting for you instead of letting it bother you so much you shut down lmao