M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[Vecna]

That is SUPER scummy

Holy sh*t kgray. Getting nervous?

Excuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"

What don't you understand about that?

If there were 2 votes, from you and me, on bunny

And I endvote

Then indeed, either you win if youre scum, or you are confirmed town to me, and the game becomes a lot easier going forward.

If youre scum, that is quite possibly the outcome regardless. If youre town as suspected at the point when I stated that, it suddenly drastically improves the odds of town winning, since all I need to do is prove my own townyness.

(which im a lot better at than bunny )

[kgray]

He is not his tonal self. And he is drinking so might be overconfident here.

I don't see what you're seeing. What tone does Vecna normally have and why doesn't he have it here?

In role madness he talked a lot about apologizing for his screw ups. How GT was laughing at him. How confused he was.

In role madness wasn't he constantly pushing for town lynches though? Here his reads have been fairly decent...

[kgray]

Holy sh*t kgray. Getting nervous?

Excuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"

What don't you understand about that?

If there were 2 votes, from you and me, on bunny

And I endvote

Then indeed, either you win if youre scum, or you are confirmed town to me, and the game becomes a lot easier going forward.

If youre scum, that is quite possibly the outcome regardless. If youre town as suspected at the point when I stated that, it suddenly drastically improves the odds of town winning, since all I need to do is prove my own townyness.

(which im a lot better at than bunny )

Yeah, exactly. I just wouldn't expect you to risk the game like that, but I guess you're a lot more confident in your read than I am...

[BunnyGo]

I don't see what you're seeing. What tone does Vecna normally have and why doesn't he have it here?

In role madness he talked a lot about apologizing for his screw ups. How GT was laughing at him. How confused he was.

In role madness wasn't he constantly pushing for town lynches though? Here his reads have been fairly decent...

Tom and me? And bussing Chaq? He pushed hard for anyone but Damo.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 8.2

BunnyGo(2) - Vecna, Kgray
Kgray(1) - BunnyGo

Currently BunnyGo is set to be lynched.

Two hours and 27 minutes remain!

[BunnyGo]

Well. This has been fun. I’m going hiking. It’s not the middle of nowhere, so I’ll have cell service. Backing my tonal reads for now: kgray more closely resembles her town self from recent games than vecna does. ##vote vecna.

[Vecna]

Up untill day3 Bunny-boy

Anyways, im away for a bit. back later

[Vecna]

Excuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"

What don't you understand about that?

If there were 2 votes, from you and me, on bunny

And I endvote

Then indeed, either you win if youre scum, or you are confirmed town to me, and the game becomes a lot easier going forward.

If youre scum, that is quite possibly the outcome regardless. If youre town as suspected at the point when I stated that, it suddenly drastically improves the odds of town winning, since all I need to do is prove my own townyness.

(which im a lot better at than bunny )

Yeah, exactly. I just wouldn't expect you to risk the game like that, but I guess you're a lot more confident in your read than I am...

Im not completely confident, and its also about looking how people react to the proposal.

I just dont think the next two hours are going to meaningfully improve my read

[BunnyGo]

Up untill day3 Bunny-boy

Anyways, im away for a bit. back later

Up until day 3?

[kgray]

In role madness he talked a lot about apologizing for his screw ups. How GT was laughing at him. How confused he was.

In role madness wasn't he constantly pushing for town lynches though? Here his reads have been fairly decent...

Tom and me? And bussing Chaq? He pushed hard for anyone but Damo.

Well, that's true, he was way off on damo. I guess I was mostly thinking about how hard he'd pushed for Chaqa before EOD 3, when even though Chaqa was on a lot of people's scumteams nobody was really pushing for him to be lynched. And, I think he's right about his scumread of you.

But... yeah, you're right, his reads haven't been stellar, so maybe that's not as different from that game as I'd assumed.

[BunnyGo]

Just got to hike. No news.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 8.4

BunnyGo(2) - Vecna, Kgray
Vecna(1) - BunnyGo

Currently BunnyGo is set to be lynched.

One hour and 47 minutes remain!

[Vecna]

I mean, if bunny is scum here ive been voting scum the entire game except day2 (where i probably wouldve ended on chaqa if ibwas around), so I see no reason to be apologizing for my play or lamenting about the godthread since theyve all had the same resas as me.

Also, you keep forgetting that besides my townreqd on damo, I was going against that wagon also because my scumread chaqa was pushing it all game

[Vecna]

And for Bunny, he just magically found his way onto every scum wagon without any progression whatsoever. Just a vote without any investigation/discussion. That in itself is pretty damning to me

[Vecna]

And then now we get this talk about him focussing on appearing to be towny.

Which feels like his gimmick to appear town this game. Last game it was the fake claim

[Vecna]

Im fine just ending it here Kgray.

I wont endvote if youre just going to be finding reasons to be suspicions about it, but itd prefer to go watch a movie without my phone at the ready rather than having to hover over this game.

[BunnyGo]

Just reached the top of the waterfall. No news.

[BunnyGo]

@vecna. For someone complaining that if I’m Town, I haven’t done any work to get you onside: Pot, kettle.

[Vecna]

what do you want me to do?

the way you just flip-flopped from no vote to kgray to me.......

how was kgrays reply scummy?

You just state my tone is different and then come up with the apology example from last game. what am i supposed to do with that?

[kgray]

And then now we get this talk about him focussing on appearing to be towny.

Which feels like his gimmick to appear town this game. Last game it was the fake claim

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. It doesn't feel like genuine Bunny at all. I can't get over the fact that his main goal seems to be to survive. If Bunny is town and is lynched, town does lose. But town ALSO loses if the other townie is lynched. Only scum wins solely by surviving.