M1010 Mini-Mafia

[brainbomb]

that didnt go very well for us sarah. so maybe try again?

[xorxes]

@damo, why are you more concerned with bumping M55 signup thread than posting something here? Is this game about to end?

[xorxes]

im not sure who to even try to appeal to. sarah doesnt really like me so shes probably not gonna listen to my ideas. not sure she reads my posts unless her names in em

How can you not be sure who to appeal to if you think the team is worcej-damo?

Why are you not appealing to me? Why does it feel like you are always talking to me in an indirect way?

[xorxes]

ive known alot of these folks for years. xorxes and I have been in probably 25 games together. and we still cant ever trust each other.

but I do like him. hes one of the worthwhile folks to try to talk to.

But it feels that you have tried talking to me very little this game. You are doing a lot of rambling, which is fine, you always do that, but you are not doing the serious part, or at least I haven't registered it.

[xorxes]

@brain,

Sarah is not saying anything. She talks, but she doesn't say anything. If you can find a post from her where she says something, I might consider thinking she is town, but I can't find any. If this was a D1 thing before understanding how the game works, fine. But she has not chnaged since then.

Why is worcej scum? bozo's case seems very influenced by OMGUS. It's usually easy for me to scumread worcej, so it should not be so hard to convince me he is scum. But I have found some things that suggest town. Is gloating about how right he was about bo_sox really something scum!worcej would do, for example? Would he really want to be so in-your-face told-you-so about it if he was scum?

Here's where I'm at:

After reading worcej's ISO, I have convinced myself again that he is town. I can't be sure, but I've been townleaning him for most of the game and the main reason I thought he could be scum was because POE suggested Fox-worcej was most likely.

If I'm right about worcej, then it's Sarah-brain, Sarah-damo or damo-brain.

damo-brain is the least likely, because damo's unbussing him after bussing him D4 makes no sense. If he thought brain was going to be the lynch, why get out of the wagon after Fox joined it?

That would mean Sarah has to be scum.

[xorxes]

@worcej, are you convinced of your vote for Sarah?

@damo, if you are town we can't end the day on 3-2. If brain is scum he can vote for someone else to make it 2-2 and we lose, so all of town has to be voting together at EOD. Do you think Sarah could be town? If you are more sure that it is brain, can you make a case please. I do think Sarah-brain is the most likely, but I'm more sure of Sarah than of brain right now.

[damo666]

@damo, why are you more concerned with bumping M55 signup thread than posting something here? Is this game about to end?

I've got nothing much really to say.

I assume from Sarah's vote on brain it is not brain/sarah. So from mpov because the game continues it must be one and only one of brain and Sarah and one and only one of you and worcej. Considering Sarah's naivety v brain's brashness I think brain more likely scum than Sarah. Between you and worcej I'm pretty much torn, perhaps 55/45 in favour of worcej being scum. Whereas brain v Sarah is more like 75/25. In any case today's lynch looks like brain v Sarah anyway.

Also wrt lack of posting I must admit I've become a bit disillusioned with the game due to brain's attitude.

As to whether the game is about to end:

if it's SvS (very doubtful imo) - no
if it's TvT (also very doubtful imo) - yes
if it's TvS - depends on whether we get the lynch right or wrong.

I doubt I'll be posting much more unless there is drama.

[damo666]

@worcej, are you convinced of your vote for Sarah?

@damo, if you are town we can't end the day on 3-2. If brain is scum he can vote for someone else to make it 2-2 and we lose, so all of town has to be voting together at EOD. Do you think Sarah could be town? If you are more sure that it is brain, can you make a case please. I do think Sarah-brain is the most likely, but I'm more sure of Sarah than of brain right now.

See my previous post. I'm afraid I don't have a great case on brain.

I discarded brain/Sarah but I suppose brain could have told her in the qt to bus him but she doesn't seem to be aware of the concept.

If you are town (and your work ethic kind of lends me that way) I think brain/worcej is the probable pairing. Obviously worcej and brain would vote for Sarah. So I think you joining me and Sarah on brain is the way to go.

Up to you....

[xorxes]

I discarded brain/Sarah but I suppose brain could have told her in the qt to bus him but she doesn't seem to be aware of the concept.

The D3 vote she had to choose between Jamie and brain, so it doesn't really mean much. The D4 vote could not look more like distancing if she tried:

If brain is scum, brain+Sarah is also a possibility.

Their interaction today was something new from Sarah.

I think that's what he is trying to get h to think
I'm starting to think that's the next scum is brain
##vote brainbomb

She votes for brain when I suggest that the team could be brain+Sarah, even though Fox had been her constant scumread from D1. brain was already in the lead anyway.

What do you think of my argument about worcej's gloating that he was right about bo?

[xorxes]

@worcej: your thoughts?

Would you vote for brain today?

[xorxes]

Sarah: If she is town, she does not seem the least bit worried that she could be making us lose the game today. @Sarah, if you are town and brain is scum, then one of me and worcej has to be town. If you think it's worcej, shouldn't you be talking to him and telling him why he is making a mistake?

brain: if he is town, his best argument is that bozo thought he was town? He thinks me and Sarah are town, but he does not try to tell Sarah why she should be voting for damo or for worcej. He just gives her a general positive review of everyone: he likes me, he normally is on par with worcej, damo has his own way of doing things. Nothing specific to this game.

damo: a bit disappointing that he has nothing more to say.

worcej: busy with work? @worcej, if I'm right that you and damo are town, you can't be voting on different wagons at EOD. You two need to at least pretend that the other is town and try to come to an agreement. I prefer Sarah but I can vote for brain if you do as well.

[xorxes]

@brain, if I'm getting everything completely upside down, we are losing today. Communicating with Sarah has proven impossible, and communicating with you is almost as hard.

[worcej]

[*]People just don't listen to me anyways. Not that I have great hunting reads, but I have been pretty damn good at knowing when someone is town yet the rest of the group still lynches them.

I have to admit you have been pretty damn good at knowing we were lynching town every time. You are the only one who did not take part in any mislynches so far.

So, assuming that you and I are both town, who is the third town left: brain or damo?

As of now, catching up and responding to this (aka worcej posting) I believe it is damo over brain. Again, could be my own biases playing into this because this is a meta read, but I think he is he doing the whole read and observe others, which is his standard town play. Brain is simply causing chaos, which I don't understand how he is being town by chancing the game just outright ending.

[worcej]

bozo never once scumread me this entire game.
id simply never kill him

Is there a point in saying this? Bozo not scumming you once doesn't mean you're innocent.

Also, why wouldn't you kill him? Bozo's reads adapt over time and especially in lylo could be deadly to a scum!brain, so why wouldn't you kill him?

[worcej]

this isnt wifom its common sense

You definition of common sense is questionable. My common sense says don't put an end vote in lylo.

[worcej]

ya, well sorry for being really rude early on. I have alot of rage. I dont feel very positive when im on this site

Out of game comment: I don't understand why this website specifically makes you more negative. If you're referring to your interactions with other people, you hold the keys to make change happen on that.

[worcej]

ya, well sorry for being really rude early on. I have alot of rage. I dont feel very positive when im on this site

Well I'm sorry you feel that way

eh its ok. just too competitive. it brings out alot of my temper

I'm interested in hearing more about this, but not now.

[worcej]

@damo, why are you more concerned with bumping M55 signup thread than posting something here? Is this game about to end?

TBF - I am considering extending the time by a week. Signups are incredibly poor for it...

[worcej]

im not sure who to even try to appeal to. sarah doesnt really like me so shes probably not gonna listen to my ideas. not sure she reads my posts unless her names in em

How can you not be sure who to appeal to if you think the team is worcej-damo?

Why are you not appealing to me? Why does it feel like you are always talking to me in an indirect way?

I've always considered brain and indirect communicator - he puts it out there for people to read, if you want it, instead of going directly into questioning someone in depth, like what bozo does.

He spews thoughts and opinions - I think this is why he says me and him are similar because I feel like I do the same.

[xorxes]

im not sure who to even try to appeal to. sarah doesnt really like me so shes probably not gonna listen to my ideas. not sure she reads my posts unless her names in em

How can you not be sure who to appeal to if you think the team is worcej-damo?

Why are you not appealing to me? Why does it feel like you are always talking to me in an indirect way?

I've always considered brain and indirect communicator - he puts it out there for people to read, if you want it, instead of going directly into questioning someone in depth, like what bozo does.

He spews thoughts and opinions - I think this is why he says me and him are similar because I feel like I do the same.

You've talked to me (and to others) quite a bit this game, questions and answers, explanations, back and forth, you engage with what others are saying, I don't feel like you just throw comments into the air.