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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2781 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:01 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:38 am
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:33 am
@kgray having read your ISO on me I'm confused about my own alignment lol.

I am floundering which your post kind of proves.

However, worcej flipping town as I suspected he would does make my Flum/emc hypothesis kind of interesting.

Another hypothesis: There are 2 scum who knew Bob's alignment so most unlikely (imo) that they were both bussing Bob therfore (from MPOV) there must be AT LEAST ONE SCUM in {rdr, Jamie, kgray, fox, Chaqa, Damo}

Of these I townread Jamie Fox and kgray (in that order).

##vote rdr
Jesus christ, Damo. At least have the courtesy to include yourself in the list. I've corrected it above, and it makes you look really sketchy.
I said from MPOV.

Despite gray's ISO on me I am aware of my own alignment and can therefore narrow the pool since I am not scum.

However from YPOV you can include me in the pool. I was just trying to help.

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#2782 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:11 am

One question before I go to sleep. What's the wagon on rdr for?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2783 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:12 am

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:01 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:38 am
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:33 am
@kgray having read your ISO on me I'm confused about my own alignment lol.

I am floundering which your post kind of proves.

However, worcej flipping town as I suspected he would does make my Flum/emc hypothesis kind of interesting.

Another hypothesis: There are 2 scum who knew Bob's alignment so most unlikely (imo) that they were both bussing Bob therfore (from MPOV) there must be AT LEAST ONE SCUM in {rdr, Jamie, kgray, fox, Chaqa, Damo}

Of these I townread Jamie Fox and kgray (in that order).

##vote rdr
Jesus christ, Damo. At least have the courtesy to include yourself in the list. I've corrected it above, and it makes you look really sketchy.
I said from MPOV.

Despite gray's ISO on me I am aware of my own alignment and can therefore narrow the pool since I am not scum.

However from YPOV you can include me in the pool. I was just trying to help.
Fair point about the MPOV, but still a nice way to slip things through...I'm watching you Damo...

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#2784 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:54 am

Freedom drove for hours in the night along Route 21, and later Route 13 to Sauble Beach. Janet cried softly to herself hiding her face. She occasionally would sleep for a few seconds before being jolted awake by wind off the shores of Huron. Freedom parked at a gas station and his maga shirt was stained blood red from a bullet in his right side.
Janet looked up as he parked the truck.
"You need to see a doctor. youve been shot".
She wiped her eyes and looked at him.
He slid a credit card at the pump and looked back.
"Im getting us far off the grid lil lady. far from infected, far from loonies. Freedom. The great rural land of Ontario."

Janet forced a smile. "I trust you freedom. But you need to get that bullet out."

For a moment a cold rush of air hit them both. A whisper on the wind said "You cannot run".


Vote Count Day 4
rdrivera2005 (3) Fluminator xorxes damo666
BunnyGo (2) bozotheclown Chaqa
Balki Bartokomous (1) Foxcastle
Foxcastle (1) rdrivera2005
e.m.c^42 (1) Jamiet99uk
Fluminator (1) BunnyGo

End-votes (0/12):

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Balki Bartokomous, e.m.c^42, kgray

Rdrivera is scheduled to be lynched
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#2785 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:14 am

Like, look at silly Foxy. He’s actually voting for me. Can this be real?

Foxy won’t tell us his Balki case. Does anyone else want to guess what it is?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2786 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:26 am

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:51 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:43 am
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:33 am
@kgray having read your ISO on me I'm confused about my own alignment lol.

I am floundering which your post kind of proves.

However, worcej flipping town as I suspected he would does make my Flum/emc hypothesis kind of interesting.

Another hypothesis: There are 2 scum who knew Bob's alignment so most unlikely (imo) that they were both bussing Bob therfore (from MPOV) there must be AT LEAST ONE SCUM in {rdr, Jamie, kgray, fox, Chaqa}

Of these I townread Jamie Fox and kgray (in that order).

##vote rdr
I really don't understand your logic specially this part: "There are 2 scum who knew Bob's alignment so most unlikely (imo) that they were both bussing Bob therfore".
What the hell this means?
Sorry. NOT bussing.

Omitted the 'not'.
Ok, a bit better. I confess I am playing a lot worst this game that my regular game. I wasn't factoring that only 2 scum know's Bob's alignment, so I agree it's unlikely both bussed. But I still think it's unlikely both voted emc, so this makes 1 on each the most likely configuration.

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#2787 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:59 am

One of Fox/Balki is scum. If they both are this is some good theatre.

I stand by my townread of Rdrivera for now. I won't vote him today.

I am comfortable with an EMC lynch and am concerned that some of you have just totally stopped paying attention to EMC.

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#2788 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:44 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:59 am
One of Fox/Balki is scum. If they both are this is some good theatre.

I stand by my townread of Rdrivera for now. I won't vote him today.

I am comfortable with an EMC lynch and am concerned that some of you have just totally stopped paying attention to EMC.
Agree scum scum unlikely, town town quite possible though.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2789 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:49 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:26 am
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:51 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:43 am


I really don't understand your logic specially this part: "There are 2 scum who knew Bob's alignment so most unlikely (imo) that they were both bussing Bob therfore".
What the hell this means?
Sorry. NOT bussing.

Omitted the 'not'.
Ok, a bit better. I confess I am playing a lot worst this game that my regular game. I wasn't factoring that only 2 scum know's Bob's alignment, so I agree it's unlikely both bussed. But I still think it's unlikely both voted emc, so this makes 1 on each the most likely configuration.
Firstly I had it right first time! I said UNlikely both bussing so the "not" is not required.

Secondly, I agree with your suggestion of a 1:1 split.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2790 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:52 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:14 am
Like, look at silly Foxy. He’s actually voting for me. Can this be real?

Foxy won’t tell us his Balki case. Does anyone else want to guess what it is?
Out of curiosity, do you recall a time as scum when a town player had a solid case on you that wasn't mostly speculative and largely driven by gut reaction?

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#2791 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:12 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:26 am
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:51 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:43 am


I really don't understand your logic specially this part: "There are 2 scum who knew Bob's alignment so most unlikely (imo) that they were both bussing Bob therfore".
What the hell this means?
Sorry. NOT bussing.

Omitted the 'not'.
Ok, a bit better. I confess I am playing a lot worst this game that my regular game. I wasn't factoring that only 2 scum know's Bob's alignment, so I agree it's unlikely both bussed. But I still think it's unlikely both voted emc, so this makes 1 on each the most likely configuration.
rdr's configuration comment here implies to me that he is either town or if he is scum there were 2 scum on EMC (rdr and kgray?).

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#2792 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:17 pm

EMC day 3 voting is very odd. He keeps to minor wagons when he could be voting Bob to relieve pressure on himself and only votes Bob once it was inevitable one of the 2 were for the chop. Also , why didn't Bob vote EMC?

All this indicates to me EMC is a more valuable scum than Bob.

##vote EMC

Join me. I'm pretty well convinced.

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#2793 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:20 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:52 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:14 am
Like, look at silly Foxy. He’s actually voting for me. Can this be real?

Foxy won’t tell us his Balki case. Does anyone else want to guess what it is?
Out of curiosity, do you recall a time as scum when a town player had a solid case on you that wasn't mostly speculative and largely driven by gut reaction?
Actually, does anyone remember a time when Balki was outright caught as scum as opposed to being lynched because town got the right feeling about him being scum?

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#2794 Post by xorxes » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:27 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:17 pm
EMC day 3 voting is very odd. He keeps to minor wagons when he could be voting Bob to relieve pressure on himself and only votes Bob once it was inevitable one of the 2 were for the chop. Also , why didn't Bob vote EMC?

All this indicates to me EMC is a more valuable scum than Bob.

##vote EMC

Join me. I'm pretty well convinced.
More valuable as in better player or as in better role?

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#2795 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:31 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:17 pm
EMC day 3 voting is very odd. He keeps to minor wagons when he could be voting Bob to relieve pressure on himself and only votes Bob once it was inevitable one of the 2 were for the chop. Also , why didn't Bob vote EMC?

All this indicates to me EMC is a more valuable scum than Bob.

##vote EMC

Join me. I'm pretty well convinced.
I think EMC is likely scum, but in the last game when he was scum, he also did not vote his main counterwagon to save himself, so...

Bob vanished 9 hours before EOD. He made a point of establishing a case on Chaqa several hours before that. I don't see anywhere he mentions EMC, who was the leading wagon at the time both when he voted and when he was still around making posts. (His case was looking at D2 wagons and voters, though, where EMC wasn't present.)

I'm going to stick on Balki for now, but if he doesn't take off, I think EMC is a good choice.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2796 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:37 pm

xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:27 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:17 pm
EMC day 3 voting is very odd. He keeps to minor wagons when he could be voting Bob to relieve pressure on himself and only votes Bob once it was inevitable one of the 2 were for the chop. Also , why didn't Bob vote EMC?

All this indicates to me EMC is a more valuable scum than Bob.

##vote EMC

Join me. I'm pretty well convinced.
More valuable as in better player or as in better role?
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#2797 Post by xorxes » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:45 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:27 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:17 pm
EMC day 3 voting is very odd. He keeps to minor wagons when he could be voting Bob to relieve pressure on himself and only votes Bob once it was inevitable one of the 2 were for the chop. Also , why didn't Bob vote EMC?

All this indicates to me EMC is a more valuable scum than Bob.

##vote EMC

Join me. I'm pretty well convinced.
More valuable as in better player or as in better role?
Role
Which role would be more valuable at this point?

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#2798 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:21 pm

@Xorxes: Are you being dense on purpose? Bob McBob was a goon. We know that.

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#2799 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:28 pm

Sorry, I should wait for Damo to answer.

I am glad to see traction on EMC.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#2800 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:00 pm

xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:45 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:27 pm


More valuable as in better player or as in better role?
Role
Which role would be more valuable at this point?
I don't understand the point of this question. Clearly both killer and godfather more valuable than goon. You are beginning to worry me Xorxes.

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