M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[BobMcBob]

This is (more or less) what I keep saying. And I wouldn't keep on if I was a culprit would I? So Kalel (or Bob) must be scum.

lol. yea.
you would.

also

I agree that Kitsune's impression was much mistaken. I believeth that both Xorxes and Vecna hath been trying to reach some form of conclusions. I think I may take back what I said about Xorxes earlier though, I do not think either he or Vecna seem to have ill intentions at this point.

this post by bob seems pretty advanced for a newb to be able to manufacture

Where’s that bob post from? That does seem out of character.

That statement wast from my analyses on the first day. I what way doth it seemeth out of character to you? Is it because I hadst actual opinions for once? I didst not findeth any problems with the play of Xorxes or Vecna at said point in time. They wert my two strongest reads in this game, and I was correct on both accounts. What problem doth thou have with my post?

[BobMcBob]

If so many people seem to think that either me or Kalel is scum, I'm willing to vote Kalel. If he flips town, go ahead and lynch me, but I'm willing to take the risk to semi-clear myself, or at least hopefully get a scum lynch.

##Vote Kalel

[KalelChase]

If so many people seem to think that either me or Kalel is scum, I'm willing to vote Kalel. If he flips town, go ahead and lynch me, but I'm willing to take the risk to semi-clear myself, or at least hopefully get a scum lynch.

##Vote Kalel

Bob, are you convinced that one of us is scum? I'm open to the idea that we're both town. Kit's synopsis on the votes is interesting.

[KalelChase]

In fact I'm going to make this interesting.

##Vote Flash

[BobMcBob]

If so many people seem to think that either me or Kalel is scum, I'm willing to vote Kalel. If he flips town, go ahead and lynch me, but I'm willing to take the risk to semi-clear myself, or at least hopefully get a scum lynch.

##Vote Kalel

Bob, are you convinced that one of us is scum? I'm open to the idea that we're both town. Kit's synopsis on the votes is interesting.

Well no, I'm not sure, but other people seem pretty convinced one of us has to be scum. I can't pinpoint where it originated from (damo I think?), but a few people agree. I think if you're not scum then damo has to be scum.

[KalelChase]

If so many people seem to think that either me or Kalel is scum, I'm willing to vote Kalel. If he flips town, go ahead and lynch me, but I'm willing to take the risk to semi-clear myself, or at least hopefully get a scum lynch.

##Vote Kalel

Bob, are you convinced that one of us is scum? I'm open to the idea that we're both town. Kit's synopsis on the votes is interesting.

Well no, I'm not sure, but other people seem pretty convinced one of us has to be scum. I can't pinpoint where it originated from (damo I think?), but a few people agree. I think if you're not scum then damo has to be scum.

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling we've been put at each other. Why don't you join me with Flash?

[BobMcBob]

Bob, are you convinced that one of us is scum? I'm open to the idea that we're both town. Kit's synopsis on the votes is interesting.

Well no, I'm not sure, but other people seem pretty convinced one of us has to be scum. I can't pinpoint where it originated from (damo I think?), but a few people agree. I think if you're not scum then damo has to be scum.

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling we've been put at each other. Why don't you join me with Flash?

I dunno, if you're not scum then I think damo may be a better lynch. And people keep scumreading me for changing my vote. I don't know why... but they do. I may change later but for now...

[BobMcBob]

what was good about your scumplay day 1

If I was scum, the one good thing I did all game was lynch emc for credibility. That said, it doesn't seem to have helped either way. If I was scum, I would have either voted Jamie to try and avoid scum getting lynched or if Jamie was scum too then just given up and let myself get lynched or tried to start a random other wagon to get mislynched.

but why Jamie? damo and bunny were also options. why couldnt you as scum simply ml damo or bunny?

Well Jamie and emc were on 3 votes and everyone else was on 2 or less. It didn't even really cross my mind that enough could happen in an hour before EoD to pull a wagon out of so little. So I chose the one I thought was scummiest.

[BobMcBob]

ELABORATION

N1 kill was motivated by bobs fear of squiggs reads. RB on squigg, Kill on Squigg

SK kill on xorx, Xorx doc saved someone on emc wagon

Heh, I missed this post and didn't even think about this explanation. I was too busy thinking about my views of him rather than his of me. It kinda makes sense, but as scum I think it's probably a better idea to NK town!xorx rather than try to protect an absolute noob on your team.

[Jamiet99uk]

I need to reset my thinking, my head is still filled with why jamie needs to be sk which he possibly can't be at this point.

So I'm calling an Onsen episode here for me, to regain my mental health and get my thoughts straightened up. Should also be fine for our fox spirit that's following me right now (I don't peek, don't worry).

I have no idea what any of this means. "Onsen"? "Fox Spirit"?

Steve is posting nothing but garbage today, and most of yesterday he did little more than post conspiracy theories about me being the SK, which has been proved wrong.

##VOTE KAKARROTO

[brainbomb]

Foodcoats Study
M47 - Scum
11 posts day 1

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... =foodcoats

Trememdous ISO. very towny. rich fluid investigative style. Sharp, focused, and consistent.

And I am skipping to the end. Foodcoats was phenomenal. turns out he was scum this game and I was not aware!


M48
high in volume, 123 posts d1.
shorter posts, less questions more attacking.
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... =foodcoats

died early, lesser gladiator. town.


M49 - Town
mid volume day 1. 49 posts
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... =foodcoats
Town

This could be wrong, but the problem is that if we are right about Vapor, scum can manipulate the mechanics of the game with the infinity stones to save Vapor, force another mislynch, and STILL not reveal the rest of the scum team, meaning we start tomorrow even further back than we are today.
Page 227 : g=49&part=Day%204&user=foodcoats

urgent, out front, leader-like.



M53 CURRENT GAME
Foodcoats
Day 1 - 23 posts
spammy, sarcastic, unhelpful,

And this:

I don't really like the emc wagon. I am not in principle opposed to a policy lynch, because I think it is almost certain that at least one scum is lurking D1, but I think a much better option than emc is flash. emc is pretty active this game, and town!emc has shown reckless abandon in at least two games I've played to allow themselves to be lynched in favour of protecting their meta of late voting. This means that emc is an easy mislynch for scum, and also that emc isn't even really a good policy option here because, votes aside, and whether or not you like what emc has posted, they are participating at a solid level. Lynching emc here is in my eyes equal to lynching brainbomb: you can't sort them adequately yet, and they are definitely not lurking, so it's a bad play to lynch them just because you're not getting what you want from them.

##VOTE flash2015

##Vote foodcoats

[brainbomb]

My N1 kill was originally on foodcoats and I changed it to neph.

I wonder now what a different game this wouldve been.

[BunnyGo]

This opening/joke phase seems even worse than usual.

Can we please finally policy lynch EMC for being useless? If he won't help town by voting (both to find scum and to help himself be sorted), he should by lynched on Day 1 until until he either learns to play the game or stops using last-minute votes to hide his scum meta.

##VOTE EMC. I'll stop advocating this once he's actually, consistently making multiple prior to the (very lenient) 6-hour mark.

This is a pretty strong bussing. Didn't need to be so strong if he was scum.

[BunnyGo]

This opening/joke phase seems even worse than usual.

Can we please finally policy lynch EMC for being useless? If he won't help town by voting (both to find scum and to help himself be sorted), he should by lynched on Day 1 until until he either learns to play the game or stops using last-minute votes to hide his scum meta.

##VOTE EMC. I'll stop advocating this once he's actually, consistently making multiple prior to the (very lenient) 6-hour mark.

I was planning to roleplay as emc and not vote until 30 minutes to deadline. How does that make you feel?

This was food's response...

[BunnyGo]

I would like to propose a second experiment in addition to bozo's. In order to help identify scum, please state your Advanced Dungeons and Dragons race/class combo:

BobMcBob
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BunnyGo
damo666
e.m.c^42
flash2015
foodcoats - human mage
Foxcastle
Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto
KalelChase
Kitsune
Nephthys
rdrivera2005
Squigs44
Vecna
xorxes

And then started this nonsense.

[BunnyGo]

I have identified three and a half individuals who deserve enhanced scrutiny from the scrutiny machine:

BobMcBob - prithee
bozotheclown - so funny
brainbomb - TBD
BunnyGo - communes with peat spirits
damo666 - D1 scofflaw
e.m.c^42 - yup
flash2015 - HOLD UP
foodcoats - I went to college with this guy
Foxcastle - HOLD UP
Jamiet99uk - I object
Kakarroto - Austria is always town
KalelChase - HOLD UP
Kitsune - drunk
Nephthys - toxic
rdrivera2005 - drunk and toxic
Squigs44 - righteous
Vecna - anger
xorxes - HOLD UP but don't hold up too much because I always scumread xorxes

I'm not actually going to bother scumsniffing xorx so it's just three.

Let's see....how do you feel about your three "Hold Ups" now food?

[BunnyGo]

D&D classes poll:

BobMcBob - minotaur paladin
bozotheclown - human fighter
brainbomb
BunnyGo - orc rogue
damo666
e.m.c^42
flash2015
foodcoats - human mage
Foxcastle
Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto - half-elf cleric/bard/druid/rogue/paladin
KalelChase - human bard
Kitsune - halfling ranger
Nephthys
rdrivera2005
Squigs44 - barbarian warlock
Vecna
xorxes

Bozo did try to crumb he was the cop here. Squigs and I chose the weirdest options (Bob a close third). Kak chose the most varied and useless option. Kalel, Kit, and Food all chose legitimate playable options (besides Bozo). Like they were trying to fly under the radar with Bozo and Food maybe?

[BunnyGo]

Food were you fishing for PR crumbs? Why did your scum chat not identify Bozo?

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE EMC.

He's got time to be here and post, and he's contributing what? Nothing. Zip. Nada. Look at his posts and find anything of substance if you can. I don't think you'll be able to. Talking about how distressed he is because of some irrelevant post that got deleted. Talking about how he doesn't have thoughts worth sharing, despite being in the top five posters.

This is emc at his worst and he can't hide behind being a newbie anymore. His signal to noise ratio is very, very poor. He wants to appear active but he is adding nothing.

Emc playing as usual.
Jamie playing as usual.
Watch for third partying of this interaction.

Covers for EMC. Were you the third party interaction we should watch out for food? Did you see any other that was shady?

[BunnyGo]

Well I just noticed my three pings were all the low posters. So that was probably a subconscious bias.

I don't really like the emc wagon. I am not in principle opposed to a policy lynch, because I think it is almost certain that at least one scum is lurking D1, but I think a much better option than emc is flash. emc is pretty active this game, and town!emc has shown reckless abandon in at least two games I've played to allow themselves to be lynched in favour of protecting their meta of late voting. This means that emc is an easy mislynch for scum, and also that emc isn't even really a good policy option here because, votes aside, and whether or not you like what emc has posted, they are participating at a solid level. Lynching emc here is in my eyes equal to lynching brainbomb: you can't sort them adequately yet, and they are definitely not lurking, so it's a bad play to lynch them just because you're not getting what you want from them.

##VOTE flash2015

Tries to save EMC