M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[brainbomb]

My reads now are

TOWN
vecna (maybe sk)
xorxes
jamie
kit
fox
squiggs
rivera
flash
kak


Null
damo
foodcoats
bozo
mcbob
kalel

scum
neph

[brainbomb]

bunny is town

[brainbomb]

in some really crazy universe a scumteam of jamie-xorx-neph-emc is possible. jamie camt resist pointing out his teammates weaknesses in public.

he has been strange publicly with xorx as well

[Jamiet99uk]

(Also brainbomb attempting to roll bunny over to an extra vote looked real bad).

This is a slightly inaccurate description of what he did, but, you are right, it looks very bad. Coupled to his response when questioned about it, it looks very bad indeed.

Does Vecna knowing what he did and why he did necessarily bad?

I don't understand this quesiton. What does Vecna have to do with Brainbomb's actions?

[brainbomb]

FROM THE MAF QT

Neph: Hissssssss

Jamiet9uuk: You prepubescant excuse for a man. Drawing filthy centerfolds of jmo when you should be wifoming up the game.

xorxes: Jamie..


Jamiet: You cowardly Fucks!! EMC never votes, neph never shuts up, and im.always bad at faking anger

xorxes: Jamie!

Jamiet: WHAT? YOU CLODHOPPER SON OF A WET BISCUIT?

xorxes: your pants are on inside out.

neph: hisssss

Jamiet: STOP HISSING and help me hunt the sk.

neph: hissssssss its probably vecnaaaaa. hisssss

xorxes: mhm

Jamiet9uk: who should we nk? bb is so stupid hes gonna get lynched for sure

xorxes: mhm

Jamiet99uk: I purport that I yell at scream at my teammates in game for its duration.

xorxes: mhm

[brainbomb]

Jamie who do you guys have as sk candidates?

[Jamiet99uk]

I am going to repeat this. Brainbomb is scum. It is clear to me. The case against Brainbomb is pretty simple.

Firstly, during EoD1, when the vote was tied, he *pretended* to reluctantly move his vote to BunnyGo, apparently due to the need to prevent a tie. But this was a deception, because his vote was *already* on BunnyGo, so in fact Brainbomb was not moving his vote, his action did nothing to break the tie.

Look at this vote, on page 44, and note he said "ok, fine", before casting it. Thus indicating he wasn't super keen, just moving to protect a tie (though he was only pretending to move).

I purport that his intention was to both make himself look good, *and* to preserve a tie by making others think that Brainbomb had broken it, thus meaning they *didn't* have such pressure to move their own votes.

Secondly, when I called Brainbomb out for this deceptive, manipulative behaviour, he responded, on page 46. In his response, he claimed this was "a trick" to create the impression that "a runaway wagon" was forming on BunnyGo, and to cause others to join it - thus getting his target, BunnyGo, lynched.

This explanation is FALSE. It is a LIE. I can prove this. Go back to his vote on page 44. Look at it. I shall quote it here:

ok fine
##Vote bunnygo

Is a shoulder-shrugging "ok fine" suggestive of someone who really wanted to give momentum to a wagon and push it hard? No. It conveys reluctance. It says, "uh, well, I'm not super confident of this, but I must break the tie". This is not the vote of someone pushing to light a fire under a wagon. No sir.

So we see that Brainbomb posted a fake vote, and then, when questioned, lied about why he posted that fake vote.

The third and final clue is his pretence of not knowing how endhammers work at night. This is a minor detail compared to the two items above, but still worthy of note.

[brainbomb]

thats nice

who do you guys have as sk candidates.

[brainbomb]

if im scum dont you wanna know who my scumbuddies think sk is?

[brainbomb]

aw did ya log off.

yea go ahead and reiterate that case some more

[brainbomb]

you clearly dont see any world in which im the sk. and presumably if im.scum I know 2 other ppl who arent sk


so whats the harm in asking me?

[brainbomb]

I remember the good old days when someone was presumed outted scum that players couldnt wait to try to get them.to talk and reveal tells. And make them.all riled up and emotional. that was the best part of mafia. The discovery and bonus intel portion
Granted it was wifom but there was other folks reactions which made it easier

when you wanna avoid wifom. a wise old scholar of the game once said that you can look at how others react and tune out the noise of wifom.

so say player d is scum and outted
look.at all the players who interacted to player d and garner reads in that way. thats the first place you look because reactions from others are purer than scum

The truth jamie cant tell you is he isnt gonna do any of that because this isnt about catching me and then.catching my team. He just needs me and bunny to die, sk to hit town, vig to hit town.and then scums early loss of 1 becomes towns loss of 5. and order is restored to a scumteam that took a rough day 1

[BunnyGo]

Jamie who do you guys have as sk candidates?

I literally laughed out loud at this.

[brainbomb]

Jamie who do you guys have as sk candidates?

I literally laughed out loud at this.

[brainbomb]

Ill reveal the name of 1 scumteam member in exchange for jamies sk reads

[brainbomb]

if all players vote in game thread to end hammer the night ill reveal 2 scumteam members

[brainbomb]

ill even throw in a brand new washer dryer combo

[brainbomb]

Waiting for that cliche "bb is spamming because hes caught. just ignore him".

usually damo or an ezio type will fly in and say something of such high moral fiber

[Jamiet99uk]

if im scum dont you wanna know who my scumbuddies think sk is?

Sure, go ahead and tell us.

[brainbomb]

if im scum dont you wanna know who my scumbuddies think sk is?

Sure, go ahead and tell us.

SK Candidates as discussed with my scumteam
vecna
kitsune
flash
bozo