M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[brainbomb]

if I could have "posted". not seen. sorry

[Kakarroto]

ah, I see. Yes, jamie was quite silent then, he increased volume though right when xorx and neph both concurred he's probably town. Do you think this is a coincidence?

[brainbomb]

No?

[Kakarroto]

No as in "I don't think it is an coincidence", "this is no coincidence but preplanned by a scumtrio of jamie xor and neph", "no but people get more relaxed feeling less stress and post more" or no as in "what the flip are you talking about"?

[brainbomb]

No as in "I don't think it is an coincidence", "this is no coincidence but preplanned by a scumtrio of jamie xor and neph", "no but people get more relaxed feeling less stress and post more" or no as in "what the flip are you talking about"?

Do I think jamie has stepped up his game to match the levels of xorx and neph, his fellow high volume scumbuddies

No

Xorxes does not seem to be scum to me. one thing xorxes does as town is he lacks tenacity. he always seems nonchalant, passionless yet observant. he pokes. he finds tiny little things and tends to say how it looks.

I can see neph as scum and jamie as scum
there isnt any reason they both have to be scum tho.

[brainbomb]

also, I dont understand the goal of your question.

[foodcoats]

I have identified three and a half individuals who deserve enhanced scrutiny from the scrutiny machine:

BobMcBob - prithee
bozotheclown - so funny
brainbomb - TBD
BunnyGo - communes with peat spirits
damo666 - D1 scofflaw
e.m.c^42 - yup
flash2015 - HOLD UP
foodcoats - I went to college with this guy
Foxcastle - HOLD UP
Jamiet99uk - I object
Kakarroto - Austria is always town
KalelChase - HOLD UP
Kitsune - drunk
Nephthys - toxic
rdrivera2005 - drunk and toxic
Squigs44 - righteous
Vecna - anger
xorxes - HOLD UP but don't hold up too much because I always scumread xorxes

I'm not actually going to bother scumsniffing xorx so it's just three.

[brainbomb]

damo hates day 1 as scum also btw

[Nephthys]

No as in "I don't think it is an coincidence", "this is no coincidence but preplanned by a scumtrio of jamie xor and neph", "no but people get more relaxed feeling less stress and post more" or no as in "what the flip are you talking about"?

With no day chat you really think we can plan things? Or did you find my hidden semaphore?

[Nephthys]

Ok.

What do you think about the whole "Steve" thing?

How are you still going on about this???

[Nephthys]

sorry. youre asking me about why people are calling kak steve? I fail to see why that has any importance whatsoever other than being the meme of m53.

I didnt see anything important in it at all.

Was I supposed to?

Well what seemed odd to me was:

- Neph apparently made up the nickname "Steve" for Kakko on P2, and behaved as such.
- Bozo claimed that Steve had been Karro's nickname back in college and asserted that everyone apparently knows this (clearly not true).
- I questioned all this and asked Bozo about it very specifically.
- Xorxes aggressively intervened and got in my face.
- Bozo got cross with me.

There's something odd in all that somewhere.

Do you find sarcasm odd? That would explain sooo much

[Kakarroto]

also, I dont understand the goal of your question.

My first question was to getting information of your thoughts for the nature of that change in jamie's behaviour. Since you responded with a single word (it's quite hard to hear the sound of a 'no' on forum, like playful, sarcastic, doubtful, etc.) I wanted you to elaborate on that. That's about it.

[Nephthys]

With all that said, if you're going to miss-lynch you might as well miss-lynch someone who's not helping the team so perhaps I wouldn't be the worst death as long as it taught town something about the other guys.

How can anyone read this thinking its even remotely good. Assuming Kalel is town then if we lynch him (from his perspective) we have a 0% chance of hitting scum whereas if we lynch literally anyone else we have a 5/17 chance of hitting not town.

No one should ever be stating this. Its a self-deprecating plea for town reads.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok.

What do you think about the whole "Steve" thing?

How are you still going on about this???

Brainbomb was unable to post until now, didn't you realise?

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok.

What do you think about the whole "Steve" thing?

How are you still going on about this???

Brainbomb was unable to post until now, didn't you realise?

Also, why are you being so uppity and defensive, Karen?

[Kakarroto]

No as in "I don't think it is an coincidence", "this is no coincidence but preplanned by a scumtrio of jamie xor and neph", "no but people get more relaxed feeling less stress and post more" or no as in "what the flip are you talking about"?

With no day chat you really think we can plan things? Or did you find my hidden semaphore?

No, it's the brainwaves, it's in the water, you know, it let's you communicate through your miii~ind ... well actually, it was more of a funny option if maybe brain thought you/they work together, like jamie thinking 'ah, my scumbuddies have my back' or something like that. No prearranged signals involved.

[Nephthys]

Bob, Bob, Bob.

I want to like you. I really do. You're awkward, but I feel some genuineness at your frustration which makes me want to believe you are town. But I can't town read you when your reads just dont make any sense at all. Every read you have is hedged here. Let me demonstrate by removing everything but the last sentence in your reads.

Okay, for what it's worth, which probably isn't much, here be my reads.

Vecna - I can't think of the right word at the moment, but it feels probably genuine.

Kitsune - So possibly slight scum points.

Bunny - I'd have to say that I can't see much either way here, seems NAI.

Neph - I dunno, maybe slight scum.

Xorxes - Maybe a little scummy.

Jamie - But since this is my reads list, and I should try to be original, I'll lean scum.

I have to go now, but briefly:
Kalel seems pretty scummy
Bozo seems useless but somewhat towny
Squigs seems pretty NAI although I don't like his push on me
Not sure about emc, seems alright to me

Ironically, in your attempt to be original with your Jamie read, you lean scum, which is what your read for ALMOST EVERYONE IN THE GAME is. Sure, you put Vecna as probably town. But everyone else is NAI or slight scum, no matter what observations you have.

Your strongest scumread and current vote is Kalel... and you dont explain that vote. Your other scumread and vote was me... who you have as NAI now without explaining your change.

I hope you can see why I am having a difficult time understanding you. Mafia tend to hedge posts so they arent held accountable, have everyone as slight scum to keep their options open, and are awkward when trying to lie. All of these I see in you.

So please, do yourself a favor, and put together a case on Kalel, or really anyone, which is strong and convincing.

I'm flopping around on whether this post is terrible or not. On one hand I hate it cause there's not even an attempt to point Bob in the right direction, so he doesn't feel comfortable posting reads, you don't then go and roast the list he does post without giving at least a touch of advice for moving forwards.

On the other hand, Squigs might just be blunt.

[Nephthys]

How are you still going on about this???

Brainbomb was unable to post until now, didn't you realise?

Also, why are you being so uppity and defensive, Karen?

Surprisingly those of us that actually read the thread are aware of whats happening.

I just find it laughable that you think there's a gamebreaking code hidden in there.

Regardless,

As you were

[Nephthys]

No as in "I don't think it is an coincidence", "this is no coincidence but preplanned by a scumtrio of jamie xor and neph", "no but people get more relaxed feeling less stress and post more" or no as in "what the flip are you talking about"?

With no day chat you really think we can plan things? Or did you find my hidden semaphore?

No, it's the brainwaves, it's in the water, you know, it let's you communicate through your miii~ind ... well actually, it was more of a funny option if maybe brain thought you/they work together, like jamie thinking 'ah, my scumbuddies have my back' or something like that. No prearranged signals involved.

To be fair, if Jamie saw both of his scummates town read him without a case he'd probably get fired up

[Nephthys]

Also, why is everyone going so hard into my meta without mentioning the massive change that is foodcoats. This guy is normally one of the more focused but light hearted players here. Now he's just throwing random words out half the time.