M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[Kakarroto]

but before that, karrot, never quite figured out who "court baker" was?

no, I pretty much left that open for someone to volunteer, like the other nations in the board game. Tough luck, no one volunteered and now the emperor starves for both affection of equals and adequate bakery.

[Jamiet99uk]

Good afternoon Jamie. Dream well?

Hello Damien. I slept quite well thank you.

[Jamiet99uk]

but before that, karrot, never quite figured out who "court baker" was?

no, I pretty much left that open for someone to volunteer, like the other nations in the board game. Tough luck, no one volunteered and now the emperor starves for both affection of equals and adequate bakery.

Everyone knows that Xorxes was known as "court baker" in middle school. Your failure to remember this is highly scum indicative. Bozo agrees.

[e.m.c^42]

would you be happy if we just put you out of your misery and d1 lynch you emc?

Nah, mostly good now, thank you for the offer

[e.m.c^42]

darlin' vecna is so kind, so considerate, it puts a tear to my astigmatic eyes

[e.m.c^42]

Dunno if this helps or not, should I go back and redo all of 'em?

But do let me know, had thought people were mostly getting it. If not enough context poke me for more.

[e.m.c^42]

is it time for bb to be unsilenced yet

[Jamiet99uk]

is it time for bb to be unsilenced yet

Is it time for you to vote, or have a clue?

[e.m.c^42]

is it time for bb to be unsilenced yet

Is it time for you to vote, or have a clue?

...I do have clues? but voting mayhaps not

[Vecna]

I do not think youre a good guy here EMC. But I also do not think youre a bad guy together with Jamiet.

Can you do a secret blink if youre the SK and are willing to shoot jamiet for me tonight?

[KalelChase]

I liked Bob reads post. Don't agree with many of them, but they looked genuine.
But I can agree with Kalel vote.

##vote Kalel

I also like Bob's post... with this exception of his assessment of me, obviously. Bunny and Kit usually provide quite a bit of insight that has not come - but it is early.
Bozo's exercise without a real explanation ate up time, and haven't seen a good explanation for why.
Food's exercise also ate up time, but since it was mocking Bozo and I jumped onboard I'll let it pass (AD&D and D&D are different things).
RDR and Xorx seem to be subtly teaming/pocketing.
Don't know Neph well at all, but mostly smart observations making up for all the noise. Don't agree with your assessment of Bozo's exercise
Bob & "Steve" and other accent-y role-playing bugs me, but that's my baggage.
Jamie's just a hoot.
e.m.c... a whole lot of posts reacting, but saying nothing.

Despite it's inability to hold weight I will reiterate that I am a not scum.

My meta before was to get scum-read because I was too talkative about my SS, and (IMHO) because my posts were too personality driven instead of helping scum hunt (which I am not good at).

My quietness this game is a mix between being busy (as I posted in the sign-up thread), not having much to contribute to the team at this point, and overcompensating for the above history a bit.

With all that said, if you're going to miss-lynch you might as well miss-lynch someone who's not helping the team so perhaps I wouldn't be the worst death as long as it taught town something about the other guys.

So, and since I have to put one in, and I'm
##Vote e.m.c.

[Jamiet99uk]

is it time for bb to be unsilenced yet

Is it time for you to vote, or have a clue?

...I do have clues? but voting mayhaps not

You're today's lynch then.

You flip town and you're banned from the next game I GM.

[brainbomb]

test

[brainbomb]

ok well I guess its okay to talk. hi guys

[Squigs44]

Bob, Bob, Bob.

I want to like you. I really do. You're awkward, but I feel some genuineness at your frustration which makes me want to believe you are town. But I can't town read you when your reads just dont make any sense at all. Every read you have is hedged here. Let me demonstrate by removing everything but the last sentence in your reads.

Okay, for what it's worth, which probably isn't much, here be my reads.

Vecna - I can't think of the right word at the moment, but it feels probably genuine.

Kitsune - So possibly slight scum points.

Bunny - I'd have to say that I can't see much either way here, seems NAI.

Neph - I dunno, maybe slight scum.

Xorxes - Maybe a little scummy.

Jamie - But since this is my reads list, and I should try to be original, I'll lean scum.

I have to go now, but briefly:
Kalel seems pretty scummy
Bozo seems useless but somewhat towny
Squigs seems pretty NAI although I don't like his push on me
Not sure about emc, seems alright to me

Ironically, in your attempt to be original with your Jamie read, you lean scum, which is what your read for ALMOST EVERYONE IN THE GAME is. Sure, you put Vecna as probably town. But everyone else is NAI or slight scum, no matter what observations you have.

Your strongest scumread and current vote is Kalel... and you dont explain that vote. Your other scumread and vote was me... who you have as NAI now without explaining your change.

I hope you can see why I am having a difficult time understanding you. Mafia tend to hedge posts so they arent held accountable, have everyone as slight scum to keep their options open, and are awkward when trying to lie. All of these I see in you.

So please, do yourself a favor, and put together a case on Kalel, or really anyone, which is strong and convincing.

[brainbomb]

where to begin. ive read every page. at times it was painful to not be able to say anything. I felt a strange sense of maybe for once I was playing the game as it was meant to be played.

And mostly I agreed with the way vecna, squoggs and xorx navigated the game. how they dissected and prodded where and whom they did.

[Squigs44]

I like karrot cake. They seem too comfortable to be scum

[Jamiet99uk]

where to begin. ive read every page. at times it was painful to not be able to say anything. I felt a strange sense of maybe for once I was playing the game as it was meant to be played.

And mostly I agreed with the way vecna, squoggs and xorx navigated the game. how they dissected and prodded where and whom they did.

Welcome, Brain. It must have been very frustrating to sit and read and not be able to post. Well done on keeping tabs on things.

Why were you silenced, by the way?

[brainbomb]

reads

mcbob, neph, emc leading the troupe of joke phase.

xorxes leading the way on comparison reads with a few folks.

notably spots this:

#46 Post by xorxes » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:35 pm
KalelChase wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:17 pm
Greetings all. Never played a 'pure' game before, here or anywhere else.
Glad to see familiar faces. Good luck to us good guys.

"Us good guys" sounds more scummy than towny
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neph in post 52 looks like hes trying to put out the fire via sarcasm

post 59 rivera spots neph put himself in bozos list request

Jamie cooperates and then asks why.


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kakarrotto setting tone early with a long prewritten post
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few weak moments from neph where he uses the auschwitz thing to vote kak. then bites on xorxes tryhardedness by saying its too effortful.
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no dissent to bozos plan. full compliance which is unique. until bob.
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rivera being skeptical of xorxes townread looked good
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kit shows up seems a bit off.
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players who posted but could fit the scum bill, bunny, jamie.
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bobmcbob voices dissent over rng lists of players.
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heres my rng
Squigs44
Vecna
foodcoats
Kitsune
BunnyGo
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Kitsune: Usually I get a vibe on Bozo based on how he reacts to the opposition to his plans (which has been 100% accurate in every game I've played with him), but I have no read as yet so I'm happy enough to follow his lead and see what he's come up with.


BUNNYGO: My method is as random as bozos. Just a bit more obvious. Like all of bozos experiments this is useless, distracting, and will waste our first three days with nothing to say for it. Now back to watching the vapid day 1 posts. As ND would correctly say: this is all f&;*ing useless sh*%. And he’d be right.

BOBMCBOB: I doth not have many ideas of whom amongst us might have malicious intentions. Bozo the Clown doth not seem to be helping, for I doth not have faith in the predictive power of random numbers. Unless we art throwing the sacred seeing stones of Sachland, I doth not think randomness canst help. And if it can, why not generate these numbers yourself?

I shalt continueth my dissertations later when I once again hath time. But I now must go and tend to other matters.


@Kitsune did you miss these reactions or do you require bozos reaction to them to speculate on it.

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I would like to try an experiment. I am asking everyone to please choose 5 players, besides themselves, at random. The results should be truly random, for instance I used an online random number generator. Here are the results of my random selection:

damo, foodcoat​s, Foxcastle, Kalel, rdrivera
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neph post 88 looks reactionary and as if he wants to cause a fight about why flash votes me out of tradition.

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~Scumreads~
kalel - pointed out by xorxes. has been a bit awkward, low volume. Comment about 'us good guys' is unusual. Mostly scum based on inaction.

bozo - meaningless reaction test that was rng busy work. Uncharacteristic lack of analysis on who disagreed. did not even keep track of who voiced dissent at the plan.

bobmcbob - contrarian, hyping the flavor and seems buddying at times. could be an evildoer.

bunnygo - low volume, lacks usual wild tenacity and energy. Early anchor vote with no reason given. lingers in lead wagon.

jamiet99uk - inactive. taking issue after compliance with procedures. Highly irregular and muted. may have pretended not to know I was forum silenced to look towny. his self control prayers are bizarre. I wonder why he feels the need to do these strange monk-like flavor posts.

neph - high volume swamp water added to the game. further details listed above in research.


~Top Townreads~
Vecna - his post by post analytics, followed by willingness to challenge xorx was interesting. the pretending not to know there was an sk was bad.

Xorxes - has been point man for town so far and has accurately thumbed a few awkward moments.

rdrivera - skeptical. only weird exchange was the barefoot snow thing with neph.

squiggs - analytical. fully invested. His behavior here is far more sincere and on the level than his game on sock drawer.

~Lesser townreads~
(these are just gut based on various posts)
emc
kitsune
kakk

lesser scumread
foxcastle - what has he done? this reminds me of his 2 wolf games a few years ago where he coasted.

~nulls~
(Ive seen nothing I can confidently call towny or scummy)
damo
foodcoats
flash

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Vote Count 1.1 (because I am here)

e.m.c^42 (2) BunnyGo, Foxcastle
BunnyGo (2) Nephthys, xorxes
BobMcBob (2) Squigs44, damo666
brainbomb (1) flash2015
Vecna (1) bozotheclown
Jamiet99uk (1) Vecna
xorxes (1) Jamiet99uk
flash2015 (1) Kakarroto

Currently no one will be banned from webDiplomacy in 20 hours and 45 minutes.
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vc 1.1 noticing no pressure on fox, neph, bozo. I think there is at least 1 or 2 scum in that trio.

[Jamiet99uk]

Brainbomb what do all those squares denote?