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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1781 Post by foodcoats » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:10 pm

##VOTE bozotheclown

Bozo is above goldfinger on my spectrum (bozo > gold > Jamie > brainbomb > xorxes) so I will park here to even the wagons until emc and rdr weigh in. Going into meetings now but will be back for EOD.

I also thought of another thing that makes me think xorxes is town (although this is of little relevance because I don't think xorxes is a lynch candidate): xorxes was really really adamant about both worcej and Tom. I don't think scum would be that adamant and allow the lynches to go through that way.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1782 Post by foodcoats » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:11 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:04 pm
there could still be a xorxes and rivera roleswap in play that makes them both clear but I feel like rivera woulda been hesitant to bother since a ml and his death is still autowin for scum
I don't understand. What does this mean?

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1783 Post by brainbomb » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:18 pm

like xorxes is real doc and rivera is playing along.
but I feel like the stakes are too high for them to not simply be both clears publicly

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1784 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:23 pm

VOTE COUNT 4.3

goldfinger0303 (2) — xorxes, Jamiet99uk
bozotheclown (2) — brainbomb*, foodcoats
Unvote (1) — bozotheclown
xorxes (1) — goldfinger0303

E.m.c and rdrivera must vote.

No one is set to be lynched. You have Approximately 1 hour and 35 minutes to EOD.
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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1785 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:43 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:37 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:52 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:35 pm
you have to note that this type of play probably town!Flav, unfortunately lol
Flavius disappearing was not typical for him, but likely NAI. However, I did not see anything from Flavius that strongly indicated he was town. I was scum with Flavius in M45, and he looked at the same as usual as scum.
Did he not start missing time around last game?
He never missed a whole day.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1786 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:44 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:40 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:37 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:52 pm


Flavius disappearing was not typical for him, but likely NAI. However, I did not see anything from Flavius that strongly indicated he was town. I was scum with Flavius in M45, and he looked at the same as usual as scum.
Did he not start missing time around last game?
May be mistake but leaning town on bb, for reasons previously stated
I would be very surprise if brainbomb his town. His push on me today is mostly fabricated.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1787 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:47 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:10 pm
##VOTE bozotheclown

Bozo is above goldfinger on my spectrum (bozo > gold > Jamie > brainbomb > xorxes) so I will park here to even the wagons until emc and rdr weigh in. Going into meetings now but will be back for EOD.

I also thought of another thing that makes me think xorxes is town (although this is of little relevance because I don't think xorxes is a lynch candidate): xorxes was really really adamant about both worcej and Tom. I don't think scum would be that adamant and allow the lynches to go through that way.
Whether xorxes is town or not, you are wrong that xorxes would not do that as scum.

Are you saying you scum read me over goldfinger, Jamie, brainbomb, and xorxes?

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1788 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:49 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:22 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:46 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:22 pm


Are you counter claiming cop?

My claim was fairly weak, I just wanted to see if any jumpy scum would jump, and to see who was online at EoN.

What is the relevance of this question?
I immediately knew your cop claim was fake because I knew your report was fake, something you did not take into consideration.
Whereas scum Bozo would immediately respond "Oh dear, Jamie has caught me, yes, I am scum, please lynch me soon"...?
A scum might think they were really caught.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1789 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:51 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:12 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:59 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:54 pm


My hypothesis was that 1-2 scum was on lead wagon, 1-2 scum on second, with one having a placeholder vote on a non-factor. That's the scum read that keeps my theory intact
I get the feeling you and I were the scum mislynch targets today. My best guesses are xorxes/brainbomb/Jamie and foodcoats/brainbomb/Jamie.
If this is true town already lost.

I find really hard to believe all scum pilled on a town today. Too risky for a game where they have 3 shots.
Either all 3 scum voted for goldfinger, or the other 2 scum were bussing goldfinger.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1790 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:53 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:18 pm
like xorxes is real doc and rivera is playing along.
but I feel like the stakes are too high for them to not simply be both clears publicly
What?

I'm not caught up, has Xorxes claimed Doc? Where?

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1791 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:53 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:57 pm
##Vote Tom

no ties lads
This vote protected against anyone switching from Tom to Jamie.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1792 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:02 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:00 pm
emc claimed cop? Lol. And on the same night he was RB'd? That's a laugh.

Just checking in before my morning meetings start. I'll make an effort to re-read and give a full analysis during the day, but my day is essentially hour an a half meetings with clients followed by 45 minutes to travel across town and get to the next one.
This sounds like he was setting up someone to counterclaim.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1793 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:03 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:51 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:12 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:59 pm


I get the feeling you and I were the scum mislynch targets today. My best guesses are xorxes/brainbomb/Jamie and foodcoats/brainbomb/Jamie.
If this is true town already lost.

I find really hard to believe all scum pilled on a town today. Too risky for a game where they have 3 shots.
Either all 3 scum voted for goldfinger, or the other 2 scum were bussing goldfinger.
Do you think Brain is town then?

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1794 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:03 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:02 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:00 pm
emc claimed cop? Lol. And on the same night he was RB'd? That's a laugh.

Just checking in before my morning meetings start. I'll make an effort to re-read and give a full analysis during the day, but my day is essentially hour an a half meetings with clients followed by 45 minutes to travel across town and get to the next one.
This sounds like he was setting up someone to counterclaim.
He was setting to counter claim last night.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1795 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:04 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:11 am
Hi everyone. Checking in *briefly* because I have a work dinner to go to in 10 minutes. Kinda was hoping I'd be the NK target because of this trip, but very pleasantly surprised to see that rdrivera was saved.

I'm gonna mull on the calls for PR reveals during dinner and give my opinion when I'm back. I'm leaning towards a yes, as that gives us the mathematically best chance of a successful lynch today.
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:55 pm
Okay, skimmed through the recent stuff. I'm going to try and look through the bot before Ets OD to see vote patterns again - now that we have two more confirmed town that's what we must be doing.

But at risk of sounding like a record player, I think xorxes us the scum here.

He was not the NK target.
He is not a PR
By itself, given meta that raises questions.

However I don't see a single reason for PRs to not claim today. We're in Mylo. He (and anyone else who may have advocated for it and I missed) are top scum targets.

##vote xorxes

I'm trying to check in during each break I have, but I obviously can't do it consistently. Just waiting in line for lunch now, before next meeting at 12:30.
These 2 posts together look suspicious.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1796 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:05 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:18 pm
like xorxes is real doc and rivera is playing along.
but I feel like the stakes are too high for them to not simply be both clears publicly
I was expecting some brave town claim doc, but with mylo it's probably too risky.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1797 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:08 pm

Maybe it is goldfinger and xorxes who are bussing each other.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1798 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:09 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:03 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:51 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:12 pm


If this is true town already lost.

I find really hard to believe all scum pilled on a town today. Too risky for a game where they have 3 shots.
Either all 3 scum voted for goldfinger, or the other 2 scum were bussing goldfinger.
Do you think Brain is town then?
Not sure, but brainbomb voted for me and goldfinger today.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1799 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:10 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:03 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:02 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:00 pm
emc claimed cop? Lol. And on the same night he was RB'd? That's a laugh.

Just checking in before my morning meetings start. I'll make an effort to re-read and give a full analysis during the day, but my day is essentially hour an a half meetings with clients followed by 45 minutes to travel across town and get to the next one.
This sounds like he was setting up someone to counterclaim.
He was setting to counter claim last night.
goldfinger and foodcoats both put off claiming.

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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1800 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:13 pm

xorxes wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:40 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:27 am
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:11 am
Hi everyone. Checking in *briefly* because I have a work dinner to go to in 10 minutes. Kinda was hoping I'd be the NK target because of this trip, but very pleasantly surprised to see that rdrivera was saved.

I'm gonna mull on the calls for PR reveals during dinner and give my opinion when I'm back. I'm leaning towards a yes, as that gives us the mathematically best chance of a successful lynch today.
I think it is too late to consider not claiming, it would only keep information away from town that the mafia can likely already figure out.
If we are going to lynch emc today (I think it's what makes most sense), it is probably unnecessary that food/goldie/rivera claim. In case both food and goldie are both town, it is better that Mafia don't know who is the doctor and who is the cop.

So change of plans: food and goldie do not claim if you are both PRs, do not claim your specific role in any case for now. If one of you is VT, then I think you do need to claim.

@bozo, @rivera, what do you think?
Maybe this post was a signal from xorxes to his teammates not to counterclaim PR after he realized rdrivera and emc were the PRs. xorxes should not have been pushing rdrivera to claim, the obvious move was to let rdrivera claim last to see if anyone would counterclaim first.

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