MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

I’m not gonna waste too much time defending myself. I’ve been working my ass off this game and if I still get scum read I’m gonna go back to my usual lurking self next game lol

That's called emotional blackmail.

[Chaqa]

Adding more colors:

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For later reference, state of the vote before reveal:

xorxes (8) ND Bunny peterlund Jamiet worcej goldfinger Kalel Chaqa
peterlund (4) dargo xorxes Tom bozo
Flav (2) rdrivera damo
Jamiet (1) e.m.c^42
bozotheclown (1) teacon7
Chaqa (1) Flav
e.m.c^42 (1) Tem

You were not in good company, Chaqa.

Those first four are the bad sort?

I mean, ND is ND...

[Chaqa]

I’m not gonna waste too much time defending myself. I’ve been working my ass off this game and if I still get scum read I’m gonna go back to my usual lurking self next game lol

That's called emotional blackmail.

[xorxes]

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You were not in good company, Chaqa.

Those first four are the bad sort?

I mean, ND is ND...

Town started the wagon, then scum jumped in when it seemed it could become a thing...

[Chaqa]

Shrug.

If I haven’t shown I’m town by now I’m not gonna bother trying to convince you.

Let’s lynch Goldie and see if damo can resolve this all

[xorxes]

Shrug.

If I haven’t shown I’m town by now I’m not gonna bother trying to convince you.

Let’s lynch Goldie and see if damo can resolve this all

Do you still think emc is more likely Assassin than Fox?

[xorxes]

I remember there was something I didn't like about these posts at the time:

On mobile. Have only skimmed the thread. Is Hosuke a process lynch under some plan or an actual scum consensus? I’d prefer Worcej over Hosuke.

Hosuke and Kalel are counter-claimants for the same PR role and some of these muppets would rather risk a mislynch to solve that question, than lynch a guaranteed scum in Worcej.

Yes, and I think Kalel is the scum in that face off. Should I got back to Worcej?

"Only skimmed the thread" but had strong opinions on who the scum were. He really wanted to be on the record for wanting to lynch worcej or Kalel.

[Chaqa]

Shrug.

If I haven’t shown I’m town by now I’m not gonna bother trying to convince you.

Let’s lynch Goldie and see if damo can resolve this all

Do you still think emc is more likely Assassin than Fox?

I see reasoning for both. To me, it doesn’t matter which he scans - it’s more trying to get it right so it doesn’t turn into a me vs. EMC/Fox fight if damo picks wrong

[Chaqa]

I remember there was something I didn't like about these posts at the time:

Hosuke and Kalel are counter-claimants for the same PR role and some of these muppets would rather risk a mislynch to solve that question, than lynch a guaranteed scum in Worcej.

Yes, and I think Kalel is the scum in that face off. Should I got back to Worcej?

"Only skimmed the thread" but had strong opinions on who the scum were. He really wanted to be on the record for wanting to lynch worcej or Kalel.

Yeah, scan Fox lol

[goldfinger0303]

Y'all are just lynching me because you don't know who to lynch. That's pathetic. You're just blindly trusting that damo will magically not be reaved and also hit the Reaver. There's a 2/3rds chance he doesn't.

So, I think I should reveal the ace in the hole I had against worcej. If the HERO OF MUDTOWN shoots my bounty, I cannot win. You can confirm with the GM, but the role PM says lynch or NK. Vig shot means I lose.

So, now you have a way to prevent me from winning without killing me. You gain no information from my lynch. I've pledged myself to vote with town. I'm two bounties away from winning. It makes zero sense to kill me now

[xorxes]

Well, now I'm even MORE curious because you're resisting.

Well, mainly because you seem so interested!

It's not like I haven't typed out his name before lol

You haven't in Day 3, actually.

It's interesting that this discussion was about Tem's name. Nobody knew that Tem was RP at the time, except for Reavers.

If Fox is reavered, then he probably was not Investigator, unless Jamiet has also been reavered. Sigh, so many possibilities.

[xorxes]

Shrug.

If I haven’t shown I’m town by now I’m not gonna bother trying to convince you.

Let’s lynch Goldie and see if damo can resolve this all

Do you still think emc is more likely Assassin than Fox?

I see reasoning for both. To me, it doesn’t matter which he scans - it’s more trying to get it right so it doesn’t turn into a me vs. EMC/Fox fight if damo picks wrong

It should matter to you if you're town. Scanning Assassin would be huge, because we then can commute them and possibly have zero deaths tonight.

You seem more concerned with who you will have an easier time fighting against than with who the Assassin is.

[Chaqa]

Y'all are just lynching me because you don't know who to lynch. That's pathetic. You're just blindly trusting that damo will magically not be reaved and also hit the Reaver. There's a 2/3rds chance he doesn't.

So, I think I should reveal the ace in the hole I had against worcej. If the HERO OF MUDTOWN shoots my bounty, I cannot win. You can confirm with the GM, but the role PM says lynch or NK. Vig shot means I lose.

So, now you have a way to prevent me from winning without killing me. You gain no information from my lynch. I've pledged myself to vote with town. I'm two bounties away from winning. It makes zero sense to kill me now

I mean... this doesn’t help when we’re never lynching peter (or at least not yet)
##Vote Goldfinger

[BunnyGo]

Do you still think emc is more likely Assassin than Fox?

I see reasoning for both. To me, it doesn’t matter which he scans - it’s more trying to get it right so it doesn’t turn into a me vs. EMC/Fox fight if damo picks wrong

It should matter to you if you're town. Scanning Assassin would be huge, because we then can commute them and possibly have zero deaths tonight.

You seem more concerned with who you will have an easier time fighting against than with who the Assassin is.

Agreed I for one would be really interested in a chaqa scan.

[Chaqa]

Do you still think emc is more likely Assassin than Fox?

I see reasoning for both. To me, it doesn’t matter which he scans - it’s more trying to get it right so it doesn’t turn into a me vs. EMC/Fox fight if damo picks wrong

It should matter to you if you're town. Scanning Assassin would be huge, because we then can commute them and possibly have zero deaths tonight.

You seem more concerned with who you will have an easier time fighting against than with who the Assassin is.

5 years of playing here has taught me to always be prepared for a shitstorm. Ideally damo gets it right but if he doesn’t, Im the only one who knows for sure who the Assassin is.

[Chaqa]

I see reasoning for both. To me, it doesn’t matter which he scans - it’s more trying to get it right so it doesn’t turn into a me vs. EMC/Fox fight if damo picks wrong

It should matter to you if you're town. Scanning Assassin would be huge, because we then can commute them and possibly have zero deaths tonight.

You seem more concerned with who you will have an easier time fighting against than with who the Assassin is.

Agreed I for one would be really interested in a chaqa scan.

This would just cause us to have to guess between EMC and Fox.

I need to learn to shut up and disappear like the other schmucks.

Why aren’t you directing your efforts to EMC or Fox?

[xorxes]

Y'all are just lynching me because you don't know who to lynch. That's pathetic. You're just blindly trusting that damo will magically not be reaved and also hit the Reaver. There's a 2/3rds chance he doesn't.

So, I think I should reveal the ace in the hole I had against worcej. If the HERO OF MUDTOWN shoots my bounty, I cannot win. You can confirm with the GM, but the role PM says lynch or NK. Vig shot means I lose.

So, now you have a way to prevent me from winning without killing me. You gain no information from my lynch. I've pledged myself to vote with town. I'm two bounties away from winning. It makes zero sense to kill me now

That's interesting to know, I wondered about that but I thought it was just careless writing of the role. So you could lose and still stay alive forever, that's bad. But we have no way of knowing who your bounties are. Even if you were to tell us there would be no reason to believe you were telling the truth.

And why would you want us to prevent you from winning? Wouldn't that go against your win condition?

[xorxes]

It should matter to you if you're town. Scanning Assassin would be huge, because we then can commute them and possibly have zero deaths tonight.

You seem more concerned with who you will have an easier time fighting against than with who the Assassin is.

Agreed I for one would be really interested in a chaqa scan.

This would just cause us to have to guess between EMC and Fox.

I need to learn to shut up and disappear like the other schmucks.

Why aren’t you directing your efforts to EMC or Fox?

I am rereading all of you, as well as Kalel and worcej.

[goldfinger0303]

Y'all are just lynching me because you don't know who to lynch. That's pathetic. You're just blindly trusting that damo will magically not be reaved and also hit the Reaver. There's a 2/3rds chance he doesn't.

So, I think I should reveal the ace in the hole I had against worcej. If the HERO OF MUDTOWN shoots my bounty, I cannot win. You can confirm with the GM, but the role PM says lynch or NK. Vig shot means I lose.

So, now you have a way to prevent me from winning without killing me. You gain no information from my lynch. I've pledged myself to vote with town. I'm two bounties away from winning. It makes zero sense to kill me now

That's interesting to know, I wondered about that but I thought it was just careless writing of the role. So you could lose and still stay alive forever, that's bad. But we have no way of knowing who your bounties are. Even if you were to tell us there would be no reason to believe you were telling the truth.

And why would you want us to prevent you from winning? Wouldn't that go against your win condition?

I want to show you schmucks (not you xorxes - you're trying. Just everyone else) that there are ways to prevent me from winning without hanging me. There are ways we can win together as well. The push to lynch me is just laziness, that's happily backed by scum.

[xorxes]

@damo, if you are scanning emc, I think you should reconsider.

Based on Kalel's votes D1, emc seems to be the least likely of the three to be the Assassin. Kalel had to be bussing really heavily for emc to be his teammate, and it doesn't seem reasonable to conclude that was going on D1,