MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

Would that RB have passed on to D3?

And if he was RB'd D3, couldn't he have tried again during N3?

Yes, the roleblock lasts night+day.

He can't scan on two succesive phases.

Maybe read the roles?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm only voting Goldfinger today.

[Jamiet99uk]

##End

[xorxes]

Confirmed started as PR
xorxes (Captain)
peterlund (Hero of Mudtown)
Tom Bombadil (First Mate)
teacon (Twin)
darg (Watcher)
damo (Reader)
BunnyGo (Pilot)
Jamie (Doctor)

Claimed VT
Chaqa
emc
Temasek
ND
Foxcastle

Dead
FlaviusAetius (VT)
rdrivera2005 (Twin)
ItsHosuke (Companion)
Kalel (MAFIA Customs)
bozo (VT)

Scum
worcej (claimed Reader, now claims Bounty Hunter)
Goldfinger (claimed Doctor, now claims Bounty Hunter)

[BunnyGo]

Two hours later they found the poor girl who'd been shacked up with Bester. Seems the lass had been so frightened by whoever had murdered her beau that she'd run off into one of the darker corners of town and run into something that shouldn't be there.

Her flayed carcass was found by a water pump, the skin some kind of grotesque wall hanging across a nearby doorway.

Reaver work, undoubtedly - though oddly controlled...

Another reaver warning?

[ND]

Goldinger I guess

##VOTE Goldfinger

[xorxes]

Goldfinger is still likely RP as far as I can tell.

However, we can't lynch him unless we find Reaver2 (maybe he failed to recruit N1 and there is no Reaver2).

Is worcej BH? Is he Investigator? Is he RP?

Whatever worcej is, he is worth lynching today.

If he is Investigator, we reduce Mafia to a single member. Once we find the Agent there's one fewer NK to worry about.

If he is RP he most likely has already recruited two Reavers, so there's no reason to roleblock him or keep him alive.

If he is BH, he already has collected one of his bounties and is therefore more dangerous.

I see no downside to lynching worcej today. Anyone against?

Backup Companion, please keep roleblocking goldfinger! It looks like Reavers have not started killing yet, and that may be because you are keeping goldie from recruiting.

[Chaqa]

I would actually prefer to lynch worcej as well.

It works for either the Goldie!Investigstor or Goldie!RP theory

[xorxes]

Goldinger I guess

##VOTE Goldfinger

Why? We don't know who Reaver2 is yet. It is not Tom. If we kill goldie, we don't know who the Companion has to roleblock, and Reaver2 can then recruit someone else.

[xorxes]

I would actually prefer to lynch worcej as well.

It works for either the Goldie!Investigstor or Goldie!RP theory

Let's do it!

[Chaqa]

##Vote worcej

[Chaqa]

I still think I’m right but I would like to flip worc

If we get the consensus we can also re-test xorxes

[BunnyGo]

Damo claims roleblock.

Kalel would only roleblock Damo if there were danger of his Investigator being scanned.

Therefore, Kalel would only roleblock Damo if Investigator were in Bozo, EMC, Chaqa, Fox, Temasek.

Mafia wouldn't kill Bozo unless they were trying to cause confusion about which of goldie and worcej is BH. They would only do this if one of them was Investigator.

Regardless of this, there's no reason for mafia to roleblock Damo.

Takeaways:
1. Goldie / Worcej are Investigator/BH
2. Damo is a Reaver now

/case

I strongly disagree with this analysis. Kalel would just screw with us because he could; he's buying time for us to mislynch and let his teammates hide while we're scared of everything else.

[BunnyGo]

Damo claims roleblock.

Kalel would only roleblock Damo if there were danger of his Investigator being scanned.

Therefore, Kalel would only roleblock Damo if Investigator were in Bozo, EMC, Chaqa, Fox, Temasek.

Mafia wouldn't kill Bozo unless they were trying to cause confusion about which of goldie and worcej is BH. They would only do this if one of them was Investigator.

Regardless of this, there's no reason for mafia to roleblock Damo.

Takeaways:
1. Goldie / Worcej are Investigator/BH
2. Damo is a Reaver now

/case

Another concern: if he Alliance and Reavers decide they can't win, they can throw to a BH right? And if worcej was truthful...then that can happen in one night now. Or is that illegal unless they can demonstrate that winning is impossible?

[BunnyGo]

I was visited... But no one tried to kill me, apparently

You watched yourself? And you're giving away that I commuted you? Duuude...

[goldfinger0303]

I mean, I'm down for whatever the town decides. I think it's a better idea for y'all to lynch in the VT pool, but that's just me.

[goldfinger0303]

I was visited... But no one tried to kill me, apparently

You watched yourself? And you're giving away that I commuted you? Duuude...

He said your wife visited him late at night...alone. you might want to have words with her, Bunny. She's cheating on you.

[BunnyGo]

We're not deciding anything before dargo tells us whether Tom is a Reaver or not.

goldfinger is confirmed Reaver Prime. But we can't lynch him before we find who Reaver2 is.

How so?

It's clear to me Mafia were trying to mask the goldie/worcej thing.


Also - did no one else notice that ysterday's vote count, xorxes clearly did NOT have his +C or his +2 votes?

what? I'm on my phone...will check later. If so, then one of our reader and captain got reavered...

[BunnyGo]

Are we meant to infer anything from this?

Isn't another triggered thing?

No idea. Last time it said explicitly it was a Reaver Warning Level 1 or something like that.

Only when we asked.

[BunnyGo]

Damo claims roleblock.

Kalel would only roleblock Damo if there were danger of his Investigator being scanned.

Therefore, Kalel would only roleblock Damo if Investigator were in Bozo, EMC, Chaqa, Fox, Temasek.

Mafia wouldn't kill Bozo unless they were trying to cause confusion about which of goldie and worcej is BH. They would only do this if one of them was Investigator.

Regardless of this, there's no reason for mafia to roleblock Damo.

Takeaways:
1. Goldie / Worcej are Investigator/BH
2. Damo is a Reaver now

/case

There was reason to roleblock damo: Mafia don't want us to find the Reavers or the BH either. They provide cover.

Also, why was there only one death in your scenario?

reavers didnt have 3 yet?

This would mean they missed on a night in your scenario.