MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3441 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:37 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:33 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:29 pm
I was visited... But no one tried to kill me, apparently
Visited by Tom?
Yes
But since no attempt was made, we don't know anything about Tom

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3442 Post by xorxes » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:37 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:31 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:30 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:26 pm
Two hours later they found the poor girl who'd been shacked up with Bester. Seems the lass had been so frightened by whoever had murdered her beau that she'd run off into one of the darker corners of town and run into something that shouldn't be there.

Her flayed carcass was found by a water pump, the skin some kind of grotesque wall hanging across a nearby doorway.

Reaver work, undoubtedly - though oddly controlled...
Are we meant to infer anything from this?
Isn't another triggered thing?
No idea. Last time it said explicitly it was a Reaver Warning Level 1 or something like that.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3443 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:38 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:33 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:28 pm
Damo claims roleblock.

Kalel would only roleblock Damo if there were danger of his Investigator being scanned.

Therefore, Kalel would only roleblock Damo if Investigator were in Bozo, EMC, Chaqa, Fox, Temasek.

Mafia wouldn't kill Bozo unless they were trying to cause confusion about which of goldie and worcej is BH. They would only do this if one of them was Investigator.

Regardless of this, there's no reason for mafia to roleblock Damo.

Takeaways:
1. Goldie / Worcej are Investigator/BH
2. Damo is a Reaver now

/case
There was reason to roleblock damo: Mafia don't want us to find the Reavers or the BH either. They provide cover.

Also, why was there only one death in your scenario?
reavers didnt have 3 yet?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3444 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:38 pm

Yes we do, darg. He wouldn't have been able to visit you if he was reavered.

I'll give another fun little breadcrumb to everyone. Vote damo to make sure Alliance has to kill another VT tonight.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3445 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:38 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:27 pm
We're not deciding anything before dargo tells us whether Tom is a Reaver or not.

goldfinger is confirmed Reaver Prime. But we can't lynch him before we find who Reaver2 is.
How so?

It's clear to me Mafia were trying to mask the goldie/worcej thing.


Also - did no one else notice that ysterday's vote count, xorxes clearly did NOT have his +C or his +2 votes?
I was just seeing that. So... Xorxes Reaves

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3446 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:39 pm

Ohhhhhh, I think I know what kits post means.

Reaver is now and active NK. They have their 3.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3447 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:40 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:35 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:29 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:29 pm
I was visited... But no one tried to kill me, apparently
Did you... watch yourself?

Is that legal?
Chaqa, why aren't you reading the thread?
I have been - did I miss something?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3448 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:40 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:38 pm
Yes we do, darg. He wouldn't have been able to visit you if he was reavered.

I'll give another fun little breadcrumb to everyone. Vote damo to make sure Alliance has to kill another VT tonight.
Aye... I was merely noticing he didn't save me... But his ability is the only way he could visit... I think...

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3449 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:40 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:37 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:33 pm


Visited by Tom?
Yes
But since no attempt was made, we don't know anything about Tom
if he visited he must be himself still?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3450 Post by xorxes » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:42 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:33 pm
##vote damo

I think kits post is trying to tell us that bozo was a Reaver kill? If I was roleblocked last night, how could I do the NK? I cannot be Reaver prime.

And yes xorxes, I baited the Alliance to do just that. They know now I'm the real BH now. To town: You're welcome for me saving a PRs life last night. Please support me by killing the Reaver damo, if you really want confirmation.

I mean, if you think I'm RP, why not just keep shutting me down at night? Kill me and damo can convert another, no?
You're jumping to conclusions all over the place.

If Reavers killed bozo, who did Mafia kill?

How is that consistent with you baiting the Alliance to do that?

How do they know now you are the real BH and not worcej?

I'm not convinced that damo is a Reaver, but he could be.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3451 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:42 pm

Why would GM let us know of three reavers? Wouldn't we just be told when they actually start killing by telling us of a death?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3452 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:42 pm

Assuming kits post means Reaver is now active, we can infer two things.

1) I am NOT RP.
2) The reavers tried to either 1) Hit rdrivera on N1 or 2) Were roleblocked either N1 or N2. They were successful last night.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3453 Post by xorxes » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:44 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:33 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:29 pm
I was visited... But no one tried to kill me, apparently
Visited by Tom?
Yes
OK. That's good because then Tom is (or at least was) town, but bad because we have not caught Reaver2, if they exist at all.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3454 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:45 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:42 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:33 pm
##vote damo

I think kits post is trying to tell us that bozo was a Reaver kill? If I was roleblocked last night, how could I do the NK? I cannot be Reaver prime.

And yes xorxes, I baited the Alliance to do just that. They know now I'm the real BH now. To town: You're welcome for me saving a PRs life last night. Please support me by killing the Reaver damo, if you really want confirmation.

I mean, if you think I'm RP, why not just keep shutting me down at night? Kill me and damo can convert another, no?
You're jumping to conclusions all over the place.

If Reavers killed bozo, who did Mafia kill?

How is that consistent with you baiting the Alliance to do that?

How do they know now you are the real BH and not worcej?

I'm not convinced that damo is a Reaver, but he could be.
I'm just posting as I come up with ideas. But I'm pretty sure now that the reavers will now start to have a NK. And that would mean Alliance killed bozo, which tracks.

There was no scum RB alive to prevent damo from getting a scan. Is there any other explanation?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3455 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:45 pm

I think we need to wait for confirmation from KIt about whether that post was:
1. Reaver press violation
2. Reaver full team notice
3. Flavor

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3456 Post by Kitsune » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:45 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:42 pm
Why would GM let us know of three reavers? Wouldn't we just be told when they actually start killing by telling us of a death?
GM Clarification:

This was a Level 1 Reaver Press Rules Violation.

This is to indicate that a violation has occurred in the existing pattern, but not who is responsible for it.

A Level 2 Rules Violation, if incurred, will reveal a player as a Reaver.
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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3457 Post by xorxes » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:47 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:27 pm
We're not deciding anything before dargo tells us whether Tom is a Reaver or not.

goldfinger is confirmed Reaver Prime. But we can't lynch him before we find who Reaver2 is.
How so?

It's clear to me Mafia were trying to mask the goldie/worcej thing.


Also - did no one else notice that ysterday's vote count, xorxes clearly did NOT have his +C or his +2 votes?
:lol: I did notice.

##CALL GM: why did I not have +C or +2 in yesterdays "UNOFFIC​IAL BUT BASICALLY OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT"?

I was not informed of either being roleblocked nor of being reavered.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3458 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:47 pm

Dang, well there goes that theory

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3459 Post by xorxes » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:49 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:37 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:33 pm


Visited by Tom?
Yes
But since no attempt was made, we don't know anything about Tom
If Tom visited dargo, it proves he was not a Reaver. Reavers can't visit.

Only way Tom is a Reaver is if dargo is one as well.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#3460 Post by Kitsune » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:50 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:47 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 pm
xorxes wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:27 pm
We're not deciding anything before dargo tells us whether Tom is a Reaver or not.

goldfinger is confirmed Reaver Prime. But we can't lynch him before we find who Reaver2 is.
How so?

It's clear to me Mafia were trying to mask the goldie/worcej thing.


Also - did no one else notice that ysterday's vote count, xorxes clearly did NOT have his +C or his +2 votes?
:lol: I did notice.

##CALL GM: why did I not have +C or +2 in yesterdays "UNOFFIC​IAL BUT BASICALLY OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT"?

I was not informed of either being roleblocked nor of being reavered.
I suspect this is an indirect result of the player decision to hammer.

Since Town hammered at a time I was 90% asleep and still in bed, my co-GM responded on his phone from work and probably overlooked my unusual requirements. I am aware of no reason +C should not have been listed against your name, so please consider this a GM-team error rather than indicative.
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