M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Kitsune]

___ looking at the order to try and help me understand what happened.

Night-action adjudication order:
Commuter
Magnet
Jail
Driver
Roleblock
Watcher/Tracker/Cop
Bodyguard
Item Smith
Gunsmith
Medium
Arsonist Douse
Nightkill
Healing (Doctor Save)
Janitor
Infector
Role Thief
Interceptor

##GM Call
Does the Assassin shot take place at the same time as the Nightkill?

I can't find any Jailor on the roles list. Am I missing something?

Item Smith has a bear trap they can hand out.

Reading the description, that looks a bit like Jail :)

Noticing JOAT has some healing powers too.

##CALL GM

Does the JOAT's doctor kit (1 use doctor power) also immunise to infection?

[BunnyGo]

Okay, to team town....
So we can now conclude that there is no Arsonist in play?
Can we now conclude, due to there being one death, that Damo was one of the three targets of the assassin?
Can we conclude that Damo was town (otherwise why would Janitor cover it up)?

I'd appreciate help confirming the above questions are true. If someone can help me with this reality check I may have more conclusions to add.

Is town in agreement that Anti-Encryptor should have used their power last night?

Nope I was thinking about this, the mafia would of hid damo's identity no matter what, even if they thought he was town, its always better to be safe

They have only one janitor use though. Why this one?

It worked so well last game janitoring the first night.

[Kitsune]

It worked so well last game janitoring the first night.

Don't forget how lucky they (we) had to be in M49 though.

I was janitor, and I was the only one who knew what role had been wiped since it was PM'd to me directly at EoN1.

EP lucked out by claiming Doctor and no one left to counter claim - partly since we hadn't set up clues.

Anyone see something that looks like code in early D2 communication?

I'll have a look.

[dargorygel]

Nope I was thinking about this, the mafia would of hid damo's identity no matter what, even if they thought he was town, its always better to be safe

They have only one janitor use though. Why this one?

It worked so well last game janitoring the first night.

Aye... But I am asking why damo? Why not a more obvious choice?

[bozotheclown]

They have only one janitor use though. Why this one?

It worked so well last game janitoring the first night.

Aye... But I am asking why damo? Why not a more obvious choice?

That is why damo as magnet makes sense.

[BunnyGo]

Maybe damo was the Magnet that attracted Janitor and Mafia kill to himself?

The xorxes I know is usually smarter than this. I think this is really really scummy.

The magnet doesn’t force people to act...it draws the acts that occur to him.

The scum have no reason to use janitor unless they are already planning on going to same person.

Pleas explain what the hell you and everyone saying “okey dokey” could possibly be talking about because you just jumped my scum list while I’m trying to catch up.

[dargorygel]

It worked so well last game janitoring the first night.

Aye... But I am asking why damo? Why not a more obvious choice?

That is why damo as magnet makes sense.

Which unfortunately leaves us with not a lot of deductions for the night.

[dargorygel]

I clearly need to relook at magnet. Because while it sorta makes sense, why would damo activate. Unless he was bored or angry.

[dargorygel]

@xorxes
Why does me wondering why you weren't NKed make me scum? Do you think they didn't notice?

[BunnyGo]

Captainmeme's proclamation and disappearance had sent shudders through Memetown. In the ensuing day, amidst the panic, the poor old Doctor Bo had been shot and killed. Unfortunately, after being shot, he had fallen into the meat grinder. Unfortunately, the town has a new saying... "Bo is the Wurst".

When the dawn breaks, a body is found, oddly pristine and yet also mangled. The town is able to determine it to be damo, but any trace of what he did in life has vanished from the world.

DAMO666 HAS DIED. He was [DELETED].

Additionally... an ASSASSIN target has been killed!

You may now post.

Makes sense, but wow assasin now has 1/3 also this proves the assasin is in this game, which I dont believe was a gurantee oh goodness! Also it proves I'm not the assasin target *phew*

Not necessarily...they may have wanted to not reveal there was an assassin.

[Kitsune]

That evening did not go as I hoped. RIP Damo.

Sadly it seems nobody important read my questions. Ah well.

I am very curious for peoples reads. I’m out at dinner but will post mine later (that’s right bitches, I post content it’s just you have to look for it).

Please give me top 2 Town reads and why and top 2 scum reads and why. I’m making a file (it seems like what all the noobs are doing; who am I to disagree)

Yea its kind of weird, all the noobs(im categorizing them as everyone who've Ive not seen around yet) are really organized with detailed reads and alleged spreadsheets, pretty interesting!

Joining the team.

Time to make a spreadsheet!

[KalelChase]

I clearly need to relook at magnet. Because while it sorta makes sense, why would damo activate. Unless he was bored or angry.

I have the same question. The Assassin is really screwing me up, because it would be so helpful for a couple of roles to claim some things, especially if they already used their power.

For example, if the Anti-encryptor used their power then the only thing that makes sense is that Damo was Magnet. But if the Anti-encryptor used their power then it doesn't make sense that Janitor used power... so I'm leaning toward the A.E. didn't do it N1 (which is a shame I think).

[dargorygel]

Temasek is hedgy and hoppy. I don't think he's the frog, though.
##VOTE Temasek22

[BunnyGo]

I clearly need to relook at magnet. Because while it sorta makes sense, why would damo activate. Unless he was bored or angry.

*IF* he was magnet and activate then he may have been gambling on there being a bodyguard and laying a trap for the mafia. It's a valid strategy.

[dargorygel]

I clearly need to relook at magnet. Because while it sorta makes sense, why would damo activate. Unless he was bored or angry.

I have the same question. The Assassin is really screwing me up, because it would be so helpful for a couple of roles to claim some things, especially if they already used their power.

For example, if the Anti-encryptor used their power then the only thing that makes sense is that Damo was Magnet. But if the Anti-encryptor used their power then it doesn't make sense that Janitor used power... so I'm leaning toward the A.E. didn't do it N1 (which is a shame I think).

So again... don't claim. Not until the assassin is gone.

I also don't think the encryptor encrypted. As good as it would have been N1, it can be useful anytime.

[Kitsune]

I clearly need to relook at magnet. Because while it sorta makes sense, why would damo activate. Unless he was bored or angry.

I have the same question. The Assassin is really screwing me up, because it would be so helpful for a couple of roles to claim some things, especially if they already used their power.

For example, if the Anti-encryptor used their power then the only thing that makes sense is that Damo was Magnet. But if the Anti-encryptor used their power then it doesn't make sense that Janitor used power... so I'm leaning toward the A.E. didn't do it N1 (which is a shame I think).

If there even is an AE in the random played roles.

That’s the spreadsheet I started, although I’m now on my phone and doing things away from my laptop so will be a while before I finish or respond to Flav or Bob’s ISO.

Hopefully will have some insights into who isn’t around, if we don’t have any claims to evaluate.

[dargorygel]

I clearly need to relook at magnet. Because while it sorta makes sense, why would damo activate. Unless he was bored or angry.

*IF* he was magnet and activate then he may have been gambling on there being a bodyguard and laying a trap for the mafia. It's a valid strategy.

Which would require some sort of crumb?
Or just his half-involved grumpiness?

[BunnyGo]

I clearly need to relook at magnet. Because while it sorta makes sense, why would damo activate. Unless he was bored or angry.

I have the same question. The Assassin is really screwing me up, because it would be so helpful for a couple of roles to claim some things, especially if they already used their power.

For example, if the Anti-encryptor used their power then the only thing that makes sense is that Damo was Magnet. But if the Anti-encryptor used their power then it doesn't make sense that Janitor used power... so I'm leaning toward the A.E. didn't do it N1 (which is a shame I think).

ALL WRONG!!

If the anti-encryptor used power, then:

1) HOW WOULD THE MAFIA AGREE ON A NK? Don't they need to vote? How could they vote? I honestly don't know.

2) There is no way the janitor would risk wasting his 1 time use.

[Ezio]

There is no reason for the vig or JOAT to claim the shot unless they are at imminent risk of being lynched, just in case they are assassin targets.

There's very little reason for them to have made the shot in the first place either, unless I suppose they were under threat of being lynched D1, but then they would have used the shot to clear themselves, so not that either. So the shot was unreasonable from any angle that I can see.

I agree that claiming it now is not helpful, unless they need to. But claiming it now will be less conclusive than before the Janitor.

Can you explain to me why the Traitor wouldn't want to shoot early? The more NK's of non-mafia there are the worse their odds are of accidentally hitting another mafia. So it would make sense that a newer player not confidant of their detective skills would shoot early.

This setup leaves the potential for a million clears. Shooting a confirmed town is trivial at some point.

[BunnyGo]

I just realized I'm watching Hell's Kitchen and I'm literally turning British

Is this somehow a crumb for doctor or zoidberg?