MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3181 Post by Nephthys » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:51 am

The great wall of Vapor.

This post is likely to be long so most quotes will be abridged.

D1.

First I wanna draw attention to his first read list.
Vaporwave wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:46 am
He publishes statements on 9 players. He has 2 town reads (3 if you include me?) and 6 general statements. I particularly note his reads of food/fox these are both awkward reads.

He then votes Tem so he doesn't fly under the radar. This is towny, although not necessarily when done on page 10. It seems more that he thought of it as a reason to justify opportunistic votes then couldn't wait to use it.
Vaporwave wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:03 pm

I'm disappointed the most in Espresso (if he's town)

dargo also is full of fakery, I can't deal with these 2 right now
These two lines also give me a chill. He says that he cant deal with them, why not scumread them for being fake? These seem very much like he has TMI although its a small detail.
Vaporwave wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:42 pm
VT and no stone, no power, no nothing

release me from this pain


zzzz

bye
Claiming 29hrs before EOD is rather poor play regardless. It seems to me though that he is going for overt nonchalance with regards to his lynch although his claim betrays him, he feels threatened (wagon was 4/4)

Im gonna skip straight to EOD now. He has declared a scumread on ND yet votes Maniac. The Maniac wagon peaks at 3 votes with 37 minutes to go. Vapor then votes for ND with 1 min to go because bozo claimed a stone I think this is scum indicative because he didn't consolidate his vote earlier when he was clearly around and felt the need to explain himself. Almost like he was scared of future scrutiny.

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N1

The only thing I REALLY want to point out here is his introduction of his dodgy read on me. In the past Vapor usually townreads me. He townread me strongly last game and I was scum. I can see why he may have some trepidation however, town!Vapor would look into me and actively investigate and discuss with people their read of me rather than just always suspect me slightly. It shows his general lack of solving effort. If I do die I think this is perhaps the biggest giveaway on his ISO.
Vaporwave wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:44 pm
was tinfoiling hard but that matter was settled thanks to bomb bringing out the best in rivera, now I have to deal with my Neph doubts
He never has. This is not town indicative.

Also, lots of SK hunting

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D2
Vaporwave wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:52 am
His first read list addresses 13 people. 3 town, 3 scum and 7 nulls. Note that uses things like "brain is always sus" (he heavily townread brain early D1 when he wasn't under suspicion, now however...) Once again a hedgy read list that more or less allows him to vote for whoever comes up. There is nothing against the flow here. While not Scum indicative in and of itself its weak considering the rest of his game.

Less than an hour he switches his vote to me. From "someone who is scum yesterday, today and tomorrow" to someone "that might be a candidate"

He then shifts his vote back to EP (via food) and holds it.

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N2

The main thing I wanna say here is he says to shoot me. Ask yourself why? All he has on me is that he normally townreads me and has been wrong. There is no way this can ever be towny.

He also says Tem is the same as last game when he was scum. This is fundamentally not true. Tem last game buddied hard and was rather vocal. Here he is subdued and relatively quiet.

Also in his read list to post (~1hr later) he completely omits food from his scum list depsite initially labeling him as the scum RINGLEADER.

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TLDR.

Vapor's ISO is fraught with low effort claims and statements with no cases or attempt to sort out the people he is unsure about. Most importantly however, he routinely FORGETS WHO HE IS SCUMREADING This kind of position can not possibly be someone who is actively trying to solve the game.

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Please consider Vapor very strongly for the lynch tomorow.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3182 Post by Nephthys » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:52 am

I repeat my scum team

Vapor
Kalel
Maniac
Food
Fox

Ouside - I haven't had enough time to look to hard into it but could make sense

Bunny

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3183 Post by Nephthys » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:53 am

That really didn't come out as in depth as I wanted it to, these things take too much time.

There are a few towny moments that Vapor has had although these do not even come close to overcoming the extensive scummy behaviour that he has displayed CONSISTENTLY throughout this game.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3184 Post by Nephthys » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:54 am

@Espresso, considering you very likely may be the NK, wanna share any thoughts?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3185 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:55 am

##GM NOTE

BunnyGo has been whisked away to the edges of the galaxy!! They will return at the start of D3!!
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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3186 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:59 am

Nephthys wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:54 am
@Espresso, considering you very likely may be the NK, wanna share any thoughts?
See my reads post from earlier tn.

Vision rdr.

Don't lynch dargo.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3187 Post by Maniac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:59 am

Whilst I'm unlikely to die because I'm still scum read for some bizarre reasons, I thought I'd make a few comments.

My reads

Town

jamie
xorxes

Scum
could be anyone else. I really don't have a clue anymore

We.Ll see what the night brings to Us. Could bE a surprise or 423

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3188 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:59 am

##GM NOTE

N2 HAS ENDED PLEASE HOLD
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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3189 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:02 am

“They’ve come for me Tony”, War Machine said calmly
“I already lost the kid Rhodes, I can’t lose you too,” Iron Man replied
“Just make sure we win, alright Tony?” War Machine replied
“Alright buddy, I’m gonna miss you. We’re gonna build a monument to you, greatest avenger.”
“Make sure it doesn’t have some stupid inscription on it”
“It’s going to say WAR MACHINE ROX" with an "X," all caps”……..


Xorxes has DIED, he was War Machine, a vanilla town



D3 Has begun!! You may post!!
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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3190 Post by Nephthys » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:03 am

##vote vapor

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3191 Post by Maniac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:04 am

Well bugger, RIP Xorsex

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3192 Post by Kitsune » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:05 am

Damn.

I really hoped that was going to work :(

Who were you on, Doctor?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3193 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:05 am

RIP xorxes.

I was roleblocked.

Ok, heading back to sleep now. I realllly dislike 6am phases.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3194 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:06 am

BunnyGo has returned and may post!!

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3195 Post by Maniac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:08 am

Kitsune wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:05 am
Damn.

I really hoped that was going to work :(

Who were you on, Doctor?
Never ask a doctor, even a fake one, who they were on. It gives info to scum.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3196 Post by Maniac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:09 am

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:05 am

I was roleblocked.
Of course you were cough bullshit cough, cough

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3197 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:10 am

Kitsune wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:05 am
Damn.

I really hoped that was going to work :(

Who were you on, Doctor?
I don't think I should answer that. In the event of us killing the Roleblocker today, I want my target N2 to remain unknown so scum don't know who I'm able to target N3.

I'm also not sure how the RB affects my inability to visit the same person on consecutive nights.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3198 Post by Maniac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:12 am

RagingIke297 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:06 am
BunnyGo has returned and may post!!
Wow to the outer reaches of of space and back before I could make a pot of tea.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3199 Post by Kitsune » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:18 am

Oh right yes, then don’t tell anyone.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3200 Post by Chaqa » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:41 am

I got like 45 minutes of sleep last night, today will be rough.

Have we decided what to do with our next scan?

Vision might be best served if we all do a top 3 targets. Thoughts?

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