Cultafia Game Thread

[Squigs44]

If you really wanted to win this argument you could just gimme what im asking you for instead of trying to justify some strange methodology. Im not dingleberry durga who hates quotes.

If you got something to say show it to me. Gimme notes. Bold what u find scummy.

You want me to go through and click on the arrows and repost them here to clog up the page? Alright, I'll go do that.

[brainbomb]

If you really wanted to win this argument you could just gimme what im asking you for instead of trying to justify some strange methodology. Im not dingleberry durga who hates quotes.

If you got something to say show it to me. Gimme notes. Bold what u find scummy.

You want me to go through and click on the arrows and repost them here to clog up the page? Alright, I'll go do that.

If its the difference between establishing affirmative evidence someones cult and gives us a full reads list to revisit fuck yes

[brainbomb]

I like rereading ppls reads. And seeing bolded items im supposed to look at. Maybe thats just me.

[brainbomb]

Jamie why do you keep suckin my balls.

Yer creepin me out

[Squigs44]

First and foremost... I will not be available at EOD. Should be free up to about 2 hours before.

Next, I am not a big fan of either current wagons: Bozo and Squigs.

As the first vote on Bozo, I am not really sure why there is a wagon here. ##UNVOTE
He has responded, but not been particularly defensive about the votes on him... and has been called out for not defending himself ?? His vote on Squiggs was a bit quick, but it didn't seem that unreasonable and I believe it came prior to Squiggs claiming to have read his role such that it seemed like he was mostly applying pressure to Squiggs.

As for Squiggs, I think the decision not to read the role PM makes about as much sense as no lynch on D1... yeah there is some logic to it but it is faulty... the more interesting question is why he declared it publicly... Still trying to figure out what this gains him in any of the three roles... but it doesn't scream scummy to me. That said, I actually really liked Yavu's analysis of Squiggs decision not to read his role PM and that a scum teammate would likely have pushed him to read it. As a result I am leaning town on Yavu and while I do not have a strong scum read on Squiggs, I would be ok with his lynch.

I found Nephthys' posts to have improved from a new player standpoint and think he is trying to apply logic and moreover his own logic so he has moved to neutral to me.

Chippe on the other hand has finally made a couple posts and I have found them to lack substance and not to mention hypocrisy. For example, he jumps at Jamie for adding Chippe to his scumpool (which I not only understand but agree with)... Chippe specifically claims it was because Jamie had voted for him when he had only a few posts previously stated:

I believed your earlier statement about not reading the role PM but reading me as scum keeps you in the scum lean column.

I haven't played with Chippe, happy to hear from those who have or if there is a game I can read him on... but he comes across as defensive and seems to throw shade without reasoning or at least logical reasoning.
##VOTE Chippe

Contrary to Chippe, I have found Jamie's votes and press to be more like scum hunting than looking for a quick wagon... his actively prodding people has seemed towny.

Brainbomb has actually seemed to be less inflammatory then usual, I feel like I have seen him tunnel a little harder and really get under someone's skin... but I don't want to try to read him based on his erratic behavior. I'll wait till a later day and try to read him based on more concrete information.

Worcej glad to have you back (and hope you feel better), even if you are going to scum read me again. I do seem to have a pattern of being really active then slowing down on D1... but I believe that is related to me being really excited to play then always being a little dissapointed with activity on D1.

-You mentioned that you felt we were looking at a Bozo/Squigs/DrCJG combo for cult... other than my now defense of both of them... is there are reason for the pairings or are you just saying we are your scum pool? Look forward to seeing where you cast your vote.

DemonRHK - Come back and confess to being a witch or accuse someone else, aka where are you voting?

Look forward to reading Damo's forthcoming comments.
Hope Yoyo will be providing comments.

[Squigs44]

Apologies for misreading Chippe...

It is true the townies stumble over their words, make logical fallacies, etc. and perhaps I should be more inclined to lynch over bad logic later in the game when Scum are more likely to be forced into bad logic than on D1 when no one has enough information to have truly sound logic. Still... he seemed by far the scummiest to me.


I wish I had Peterbot to look at the EoD with... but it lacked a lot of movement at the EoD... I think the only movement in the last 45 mins were:

• Bozo voting Brain;
• Neph voting Bozo;
• Bozo voting Chippe; and
• Chippe voting Bozo

The Bozo to Chippe vote and the Chippe to Bozo vote are most easily described as each seeking to join the opposing wagon.
The Bozo voting Brain, and Neph voting Bozo are a little more interesting...

• @Bozo - Did you really think a Brain wagon would take off that late in the day? Furthermore, you seemed to suspect BB 1) because he asked to be converted; and 2) because he defended Chippe, then voted him, then changed his vote... you claimed they may be a scum pair... if so... why try and start the Brain wagon instead of just joining the Chippe wagon?
• IF Bozo is scum... (Scum) Neph would be pretty bold to move to his scum mate, especially for a new player...

@ Jamie - your recent post indicated you thought Bozo was scum and potentially another scum was on the Chippe wagon... it was unclear to me (especially after Yavu's "confusion") whether you were stating you think Scum Bozo's partner was on the Chippe wagon or not...

@ Damo - you have been providing practically nothing... and then drop that BB, Yav, Squiggs, and Bozo are town and that worcej is giving you bad vibes... care to provide any reasoning?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie why do you keep suckin my balls.

Yer creepin me out

Eww. No thanks. I just agreed with your point.

[brainbomb]

Ok I like that post by DRCJGJC

Alot actually

[Squigs44]

Just got done taking an exam, so I can work on mafia some more this weekend. Had to do an iso on worcej the old school way: ctrl+f. I put comments on specific posts I thought were important, and then put post and page numbers for his other posts.

Here it is:

Post 200, page 10 - Comes into the game with a RL explanation of his late start. But then adds that his strategy this game is to not post for the first 24 hours. Says damo is playing exactly the same way as previous games (i.e. useless). Says Bozo is using definitive logic, but then says we are looking for scum in him, me and cjg (the wagons at the time). Targets cjg for meta.

Posts 222, 223, 225, page 12

Post 398, page 20 - This is the post that I think is scummiest. He says he likes his “sit and watch” approach. Votes the growing ChippeRock wagon because “he doesn’t like unknowns”. Says CJG has improved, and doesn’t like Bozo or I. I really don’t like his “sit and watch” thing. He is giving himself a reason to lurk. I get if you have a busy RL, but a purposeful lurk is so scummy. Also, his vote on ChippeRock is opportunistic. Worcej doesn’t talk about how scummy ChippeRock was, just that he doesn’t like the unknown.

Post 459, page 23 - Apologizes for lynching ChippeRock for simply not knowing him. Says he needs to rethink his reads.

Post 482, page 25 - Calls damo hypocritical for voting him for lurking when damo himself is lurking. Defends his vote on ChippeRock saying it was better than the other wagons

Post 483, page 25
Posts 532, 533, 538 page 27
Post 557, page 28

Post 584, page 30 - Votes damo, based on lack of content and scum pair strategy

Posts 589, 593, 594, 597, 598, 600 page 30
Posts 602, 606, 613 page 31
Post 680, page 35
Post 682, page 36

What it all means:
His day 1 play was terrible. Purposeful lurking, and his bad vote on ChippeRock are very scummy. Why would town purposefully lurk? And when you are town, everything is unknown, so why pick the opportunistic wagon as the unknown to kill?
Day 2 he got more active, but if you look at the content, most of what he has done is attack damo and comment on how bad trying to pair scum is. He has 6 posts wherein he talks about how bad scumpairing is. His only scumread he expresses is on damo, mostly for his scumpairing, but also for lurking (lol, since worcej was lurking D1). The only townie thing I see about worcej is the tone that he takes D2.
All in all, I feel that worcej has been really focusing on attacking easy targets whilst avoiding interacting with about half the players.

And my worcej iso, which I did on mobile.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Squigs - don't just copypasta, jeebus, bold or underline or colour the stuff you find scummy or towny or whatever.

[Squigs44]

I apologize to anyone not named brainbomb for the spamming that just occurred.

[Jamiet99uk]

There are 11 players left, and only 3 or 4 of us are posting.

[Squigs44]

I am now going to go take a break. Please everyone, weigh in on Bozo and/or yoyo. Vote one of those two, or make a detailed case on someone else. We need actual wagons to form, none of these vanity wagons.

[brainbomb]

Lol lets lynch squiggs

[brainbomb]

@Squigs - don't just copypasta, jeebus, bold or underline or colour the stuff you find scummy or towny or whatever.

SQWUAAAAK

[brainbomb]

On a sharpness scale of 1-10 id say the points youre making about these cases are at wooden cudgel.

Ill read it again in case im being an antagonistic jerk here

[brainbomb]

I defended Jaime, not Squigs.

I was quoting squigs, and you replied to me.

Correct - I wasn't defending him with my statement, I think focusing on scum pairs is stupid. To me, Squigs is trying to fit me into a narrative he's tried to create with bozo. It's reaching and has me regretting for coming to his defense on D1.

602, 603 and this are not scummy posts at all.

This is town worcej dude

[bozotheclown]

I scum read Squigs for clogging up the thread with old quotes.

[brainbomb]

You've gone to scumreading worc now? And it looks like a good chuck is because it fits the bozo narrative?

People are looking too actively at a scum team perspective instead of isolating individual people.

Like I've said about Damo - he is making it appear like he's doing something without actually doing anything. His 'top pairs' was just 4 names, something anyone could put 1 second of effort into.

Yavu's list was downright bad, but I don't think he is scum because it is too terrible. Sounds silly, but scum yavu puts more effort into his reads to ensure he is careful. When I think he is playing absolutely bad, it is usually town.

This is so totally not a scum post either

[brainbomb]

I scum read Squigs for clogging up the thread with old quotes.

I asked him too. The content of his posts and case is hidden passive microaggressions that are omgus at best