MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

If im.still alive I may consider a yav lynch I guess

[worcej]

Yer telling me the only crumb you could come up with was a medic with an armor bonus?

I also used two medic quotes from when you multi-click them.

##vote worcej

I didn't like his answer about his reaction to BBs claim.

So it begins... Better bring some body bags!

Is this your way of claiming armor?

Here's some lotion, a comb, and a blowtorch. Good luck!

[Durga]

Yer telling me the only crumb you could come up with was a medic with an armor bonus?

I also used two medic quotes from when you multi-click them.

##vote worcej

I didn't like his answer about his reaction to BBs claim.

So it begins... Better bring some body bags!

Is this your way of claiming armor?

Here's some lotion, a comb, and a blowtorch. Good luck!

These quotes are why I'm inclined to believe him.

[worcej]

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCra ... ions#Medic

[worcej]

I was also being a snide dick when I said this:

FWIW, if xorxes/worcej are in fact scum, I want them to kill me and claim they're being setup. would love to watch that.

You can lead the duck to the bread, but you can't make them eat it.

Because I crumbed the shit out of the kit, but you read it as I had armor. Of course in the heat of making my crumbs, I was not going to counter-argue people thinking I had armor, it left me with good protection from scum.

Was it my intention to have people read it as armor? No, but it worked out to my favor at the time. Now, and the past 2 phases, it has been used as a weapon against me.

[brainbomb]

Why was damo-flash-xorxes never save considerations?

Why Tom and ND?

[Durga]

I was also being a snide dick when I said this:

FWIW, if xorxes/worcej are in fact scum, I want them to kill me and claim they're being setup. would love to watch that.

You can lead the duck to the bread, but you can't make them eat it.

Because I crumbed the shit out of the kit, but you read it as I had armor. Of course in the heat of making my crumbs, I was not going to counter-argue people thinking I had armor, it left me with good protection from scum.

Was it my intention to have people read it as armor? No, but it worked out to my favor at the time. Now, and the past 2 phases, it has been used as a weapon against me.

What does that quote mean?

[worcej]

So here's the game status to me:

1. Brain and y2k are full-town clears due to their items and when they used them. There exists a less than 1% chance they are masterminding some impressive scum game, and if they are then they earned the win and clears.
2. I will believe that DemonRHK is heart and did put it on snowy/yav and has played someone towny. The choice of a target (snowy) at the time seemed off as shit due to the tendencies to mod-kill. This leads me to think it's a shit choice. Hindsight too, this is a really dumb item to have scum get. If you are scum, revealing yavu as your target and a way to kill you is a big issue.
3. Durga/Flash have acted like town and scum throughout this game. I am inclined to believe them as town (for now) to narrow down the pool of players. But here is where they stand to me:
   1. My biggest issue with Durga is, briefly repeating, the cannon crumb on N0 and use on D1 and the constant OMGUS. Durga has stepped it up more these past couple of phases, but so far by re-reading I am seeing inconsistent reads and weird movements. I still don't like you, but I am shifting to the possible other players, specifically on who lost their armor.
   2. Flash used cannon in a town way, but these past few phases he has been sheeping and not contributing. But he parked his vote on yavu until the last second, to 'un-tie', which is a very convenient way to stop the bus on your scum-mate.
4. Since RD is now a town clear, we should 100% believe that a scum lost their armor to him. That gives us a scum pool (for at least one dude) of only 3 players: Vecna/Yav/ND.
   1. Vecna to me is townish since he wanted to protect his armor. His analysis of the state of ND on D3 and with the info we have now, leads me to think he had the right idea originally. The biggest thing here is the same logic can apply to Vecna too - there is no way the scum didn't share to each other what items they had, so claiming a fallen-scum item is safe.
5. yavu may be town, but also trying to back track the claim on armor to shield was a somewhat poor move, because now you took any value out of it to save your life. Do I think this is something yavu would do? absolutely since he let me end-hammer a win once. Again, same Vecna logic applies.
6. ND... This one seems the most logical choice for a scum of the 3. Claiming the car, it won't be CC'ed if you knew a scum-mate had it. It also isn't something like armor that can be CC'ed too, so it's super-duper safe. Combine this with letting us all go into chaos by BB/y2k, it is a good place to hide.

So yeah, in a nut-shell, I fucked up when I voted for Tom over him. I just went flip/flop on my yav read because I decided to actually sit down and reinvest in this game instead of being bitter and annoyed. RD's death narrowed us down to 3 people for a scum right now - this is much better than finger pointing at others.

[worcej]

Bah, my lists broke, 5 and 6 should be under the RD point.

[worcej]

My biggest issue, and thus shitty case, is the logic for ND can be applied to Vecna and yav too - so it comes down to this: the safest lynchs are ND and Vecna because yav also condemns RHK. Between the two, I vote for ND over Vecna.

[worcej]

Unless we all super-duper believe yav is scum, which I lean towards but not 100% all in with, then the other two make the most sense.

[worcej]

And yes, I am technically in the pool of 3 scum but didn't add it because I know I am not scum, though you don't want to believe me.

[worcej]

What sells me on yav's guilt is his shit read list during N3 and his walk-back of the armor on D3.

[worcej]

I see a bunch of you here, so once again, I am focusing on the scum that lost their armor - not the one hiding among the town.

BB/y2k/Flash/Durga/me(if you believe me) cannot be in that grouping. This is valuable information we need to focus on based on tonight's kill and then tomorrow's votes.

[ND]

Part of me just wants to roll over and die and regrets not doing it earlier. I can't really stand Durga or Vecna (no surprise) and both of them are relishing the chance to beat me down. But, more than half of me wants to bring those scumbags down. So, I'll keep going as long as I have too. We can still win this if people care and actually lynch scum (Durga).

[worcej]

Part of me just wants to roll over and die and regrets not doing it earlier. I can't really stand Durga or Vecna (no surprise) and both of them are relishing the chance to beat me down. But, more than half of me wants to bring those scumbags down. So, I'll keep going as long as I have too. We can still win this if people care and actually lynch scum (Durga).

Use your car on someone to prevent them from RB'ing me or conducting the kill?

[worcej]

Like I also said, Vecna/Yav are just as easily guilty and apply the same logic onto as you. So my case is shit between the 3 of you, just that one of you is FOR SURE a scum.

[Durga]

Like I also said, Vecna/Yav are just as easily guilty and apply the same logic onto as you. So my case is shit between the 3 of you, just that one of you is FOR SURE a scum.

Yeah I said that à while ago. Why did you post so much just to repeat that

[Durga]

Part of me just wants to roll over and die and regrets not doing it earlier. I can't really stand Durga or Vecna (no surprise) and both of them are relishing the chance to beat me down. But, more than half of me wants to bring those scumbags down. So, I'll keep going as long as I have too. We can still win this if people care and actually lynch scum (Durga).

Use your car on someone to prevent them from RB'ing me or conducting the kill?

Use his car on someone? What?

[worcej]

Like I also said, Vecna/Yav are just as easily guilty and apply the same logic onto as you. So my case is shit between the 3 of you, just that one of you is FOR SURE a scum.

Yeah I said that à while ago. Why did you post so much just to repeat that

Because I ramble a lot.