MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[BismarckAlive]

What is travk?

[damo666]

##vote worcej

[Squigs44]

WTF!! ##Vote Bismarck

[Foxcastle]

Oh. Exciting. Vecna has a gun. (Well, a heron marked blade, but it ends up the same...)

[flash2015]

##VOTE Squiggs44

[Squigs44]

##VOTE Squiggs44

I'm guessing you have a case on me that you will be posting soon. I don't remember you posting a case on me previously. I'm happy to answer any questions.

[flash2015]

I don't buy Squigs story that he just happened upon the mafia game the same day he rejoined the site. Here is my theory:

It was a couple of hours to the end of the first day and teacher realized it would be a big blow if a scum team mate was killed on the first day. So he contacted Squigs who he knew from another site to rejoin. Squigs joins and joins a diplomacy game as well to give him cover if anyone asks about it.

Note that Squigs only joined the teacher wagon when it was already 6-5. There was a good chance that teacher was going to go down anyway, and even if he did survive there was a big chance he could go down the following day. By joining the teacher wagon Squigs has pretty much put himself above suspicion. What better way to guarantee a mafia win?

[Foxcastle]

I don't buy Squigs story that he just happened upon the mafia game the same day he rejoined the site. Here is my theory:

It was a couple of hours to the end of the first day and teacher realized it would be a big blow if a scum team mate was killed on the first day. So he contacted Squigs who he knew from another site to rejoin. Squigs joins and joins a diplomacy game as well to give him cover if anyone asks about it.

Note that Squigs only joined the teacher wagon when it was already 6-5. There was a good chance that teacher was going to go down anyway, and even if he did survive there was a big chance he could go down the following day. By joining the teacher wagon Squigs has pretty much put himself above suspicion. What better way to guarantee a mafia win?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... you are accusing another playing of cheating. That is Serious™

[flash2015]

I don't buy Squigs story that he just happened upon the mafia game the same day he rejoined the site. Here is my theory:

It was a couple of hours to the end of the first day and teacher realized it would be a big blow if a scum team mate was killed on the first day. So he contacted Squigs who he knew from another site to rejoin. Squigs joins and joins a diplomacy game as well to give him cover if anyone asks about it.

Note that Squigs only joined the teacher wagon when it was already 6-5. There was a good chance that teacher was going to go down anyway, and even if he did survive there was a big chance he could go down the following day. By joining the teacher wagon Squigs has pretty much put himself above suspicion. What better way to guarantee a mafia win?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... you are accusing another playing of cheating. That is Serious™

Is that cheating? Why?

[flash2015]

I would have assumed that is fair play...as no-one gained any advantage from it.

[flash2015]

If I had been in the same situation, I would have potentially done the same thing (go out of my way to ask someone to join). It isn't like you are discussing the game with an existing player in the game.

[Squigs44]

I don't buy Squigs story that he just happened upon the mafia game the same day he rejoined the site. Here is my theory:

It was a couple of hours to the end of the first day and teacher realized it would be a big blow if a scum team mate was killed on the first day. So he contacted Squigs who he knew from another site to rejoin. Squigs joins and joins a diplomacy game as well to give him cover if anyone asks about it.

Note that Squigs only joined the teacher wagon when it was already 6-5. There was a good chance that teacher was going to go down anyway, and even if he did survive there was a big chance he could go down the following day. By joining the teacher wagon Squigs has pretty much put himself above suspicion. What better way to guarantee a mafia win?

Flash, I already explained all of this. The mods contacted me about an unrelated issue, and said there was an ongoing mafia game. I came back to the site, joined this game, and am now in two full press dip games. You can ask the mods about this if you would like. I had never heard of teacher before this game. I played in THREE games previously on this site. I believe I played in game with Jamiet99uk, and I know I played with ND.

The fact that you are voting someone, who you had previously townread, based off of a convoluted theory about modkills saving is concerning to me.

[Squigs44]

Here's a screenshot of that email:

http://imgur.com/uY4ZOfO

[rdrivera2005]

I think Flash have gone a bit far and I don't think we should go further in this path.

This said, I fail to understand the nightkills. I can see Mafia killing DT if they thought he is a PR, but why would SK kill such an easy lynch like Brain? And the same reasoning is valid for DT.

I also don't get the fight between Fox and Worcej, my top scumreads. Could it be both scum bussing each other to get towncred? I did this with Ezio some games ago, but was a really specific situation (claims, flavor names, etc).

@Peter - You know that statistically the fact I rolled scum on many games don't have any effect on my current alignment.

[Foxcastle]

##CALL GM: can you confirm that Squiggs joined the game properly?

I agree that we should stop this path. This is meta speculation and is not within bounds of the game.

[ND]

##GM NOTE: He joined the game properly.

General note: Remember not to share out of game information in the form of screens, etc.

[bozotheclown]

If Vecna is the JOAT, that leaves only three players who did not vote for teacher D2. I would be very surprised if there is not at least one scum among worcej, damo, and Bismarck. Look at how teacher's wagon formed:
vote 1: peter - cop
vote 2: yavuzovic - confirmed town
vote 3: DoubtingThomas - confirmed town
vote 4: Jamie - confirmed town

This shows there was no plan for scum to bus teacher, as the teacher wagon became viable is a few hour with all town votes, starting with peter's vote less than 5 hours before EOD. The remaining votes on teacher were placed when the teacher and peter wagons were close enough that the lynch could have gone either way, it is hard to see one of the scum deciding to start bussing the ninja near EOD just because he became a viable wagon.

[bozotheclown]

I am going to stick with worcej as my top scum suspect. His argument that we should town read him for admitting to faking PR crumbs does not make sense to me.

##VOTE worcej

[BismarckAlive]

I am the one that continued the D2 lynch analysis, and identified Worcej as part of my scum suspects. There is reason so far to change course.

##vote Worcej

[Vecna]

Weird weird nightkills. So if Brainbomb was telling the truth and got RB'd twice.....he probably was killed now because they thought he was a PR?