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#201 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:50 pm

My gods some of you people are denser than a troll.

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#202 Post by brainbomb » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:15 pm

Emilau: Troll possess a 10 Intelligence which is considered average
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#203 Post by brainbomb » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:46 pm

Emilau:

I went to the records on Hanaved, it seems the winter is harsh in that valley and can dump large quantities of snow.

I also looked up Darmor despite its cold unforgiving appearance. It seems Darmor is home to many wild tribes, vast ice plains, and poor farmland. What it lacks in hospitable places to settle it makes up for in open land with few neighbors. All that said its presently been reporting raids by Frost Giants.

As for Bayern, the issues settling in Bayern is lack of open land grants.

Gerinia has massive open tracts of farmland, and is an area the king considers the heart of the kingdom. Despite this, few are settling in Gerinia due to lack of iron, wood and stone.

Which finally led me to Desical.
I would advise giving Desical a second glance. Although it is desert, its coastlines, and proximity to Bastion Keep* would make any colony in Desical a lucrative venture.

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#204 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:29 pm

What does the asterisk designate?

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#205 Post by brainbomb » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:40 pm

Bastion keep* is an empty preexisting fortress which the king has no garrison at currently.

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#206 Post by worcej » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:36 pm

Can we have an updated count of the current proposal votes?

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#207 Post by worcej » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:39 pm

Hmmm... I want to understand why would being in the mountains be that much more better than the forest. My biggest concern would be growing and developing as we move forward - does the mountain area contain enough room for our barony to expand?

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#208 Post by RagingIke297 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:45 pm

worcej wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:39 pm
Hmmm... I want to understand why would being in the mountains be that much more better than the forest. My biggest concern would be growing and developing as we move forward - does the mountain area contain enough room for our barony to expand?
I think we're going to have a difficult time expanding anywhere we go, it seems the problem isn't lack of land, but rather having the resources to keep it under control

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#209 Post by worcej » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:31 am

So is the mountain area better than the forest - I have yet to hear a convincing argument to sway my vote.

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#210 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:34 am

Emilau: You arent going to be able to answer these concerns from here in Wortuine. You have to hope. Personally I dont like winter, and I am told anything closer to mountains is prone to harsh winter. Esfillied will have a more tolerable winter phase

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#211 Post by RagingIke297 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:00 am

worcej wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:31 am
So is the mountain area better than the forest - I have yet to hear a convincing argument to sway my vote.
The argument is currently that Esfilled has a higher Drow population but a less harsh winter and both Darvish and I would rather face the winter than the Drow

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#212 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:38 am

Emilau: we live in a troubled world. In one corner the kings most disenfranchised are raided by Giants, in another corner Dwarves have lost their ancestral home, still more problems plague even the most civilized regions, Gerinia is mostly run by a turncoat warlord Emmerick. In Silde the drow attack our lumber mills, in Bayern the citizenry is addicted to some mineral called Lyrium. In Esfillied the Elves are scattered and Isolationist.

No matter where we go there will be problems.

Ive said before our king is overwhelmed. This isnt just a colony, the king hopes we will fix his problems somewhere and bring stability to a region.

Esfillied is not actually a territory that is under the kings control, but it also is not a territory mired in violence and problems.

The only territories that are relatively calm are Desical, Esfillied, amd Hanaved.

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#213 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:40 am

Emilau: It feels counter intuitive to settle near drow, but hanaved is near duergar. Either choice we must come to face an enemy of the king eventually.

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#214 Post by brainbomb » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:46 am

Emilau: Get tough councillors. We will be strong!

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#215 Post by RagingIke297 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:38 am

Just getting a feel for what other players think, are we electing a leader? If so when are we going to do it?

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#216 Post by PRINCE WILLIAM » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:33 am

Maybe we should consider the desert by the sea, to begin having a fortress is a great advantage against war and raids, if nothing else, we'll have a sanctuary for our people.

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#217 Post by yavuzovic » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:17 am

I say Darmor.
We can create mines there and trading our ores would be easier - it's not far from Rodoripol.
Safe because we can see threats early - there's no forest.
Yeah, Darmor is very good.
##vote to settle in Darmor

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#218 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:51 pm

##Vote in favour of Darmor
Also ##Vote in favour of Emilaus Desical proposal

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#219 Post by Kench » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:41 pm

Good afternoon fellow Councillors

I have now taken some time to consider the above proposals, particularly in light of Darvish's revelations from Jartoum's papers. This was exceptionally helpful info, as it makes it clear that Esfillied is not as certain a bet as it might be.

Looking at everything as a whole, I think there are clear downsides wherever we choose to settle. We will have to tackle them, whatever we eventually decide to do. However, I think we need to make sure that we ensure that we have the best chance of taking on whichever situation we face. This means that we need to make certain that our location decision matches our population and stimulus package decisions. Esfillied, Darmor and Desical appear to me to be the most popular suggestions, so I have tried to consider what we would need to match each of these locations:
  • For Esfillied, the challenge we will face is movement through the forests, food to support our population and some way of gaining stone. It was for this reason that I recommended Wood Elves, Humans and the Food/Horse/Stone package.
  • If we choose Darmor, we will face a lack of farmland and the prospect of attack by frost giants. The Wood Elves would be of no use - we would better benefit from taking Halflings for the additional food and Half Orcs for the attack/defense benefits. In Darmor, wood will also be harder to come by, so I would recommend the Food/Iron/Wood package.
  • If we choose Desical, we will also need to ensure food (so again I recommend halflings) but attack and defense will be of less immediate need, so we should take the Mountain Dwarves for the iron benefits. It will then also make sense to return to the Food/Horse/Stone stimulus package as stone will be harder to come by.
All of this to say, that I think in the circumstances we should retract all of our original proposals under 0.1, 0.2 and 0.3. Then, we should put forward three separate proposals pulling together each of my recommendations above, which match location, population and stimulus package together. We can then vote on which of the three is most beneficial as a whole, with the most popular package then chosen.

If this suggestion seems sensible, I will retract my proposals and draft these three correctly.

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#220 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:54 pm

All of that is very sensible indeed, and I fully concur.

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