Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4261 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:45 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
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Didn’t KOTP claim SJS Cop?

KOTP, are you SJS Cop?
If he did my heart will break from the sadness

And it means that he is actually a judge and not a cop
How could you possibly not have noticed that during the ND-Cop-Claim Day? Does it not ring a bell with you at all?

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#4262 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:46 am

This is why today is mass claim today. We put all info into the light and see what world makes sense.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4263 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:47 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:45 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:44 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:43 am
Didn’t KOTP claim SJS Cop?

KOTP, are you SJS Cop?
If he did my heart will break from the sadness

And it means that he is actually a judge and not a cop
How could you possibly not have noticed that during the ND-Cop-Claim Day? Does it not ring a bell with you at all?
I do not think he claimed any type of cop at all. Just some type of cop

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4264 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:48 am

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Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:46 am
This is why today is mass claim today. We put all info into the light and see what world makes sense.
Does the world not make sense to you right now?
What needs is there for a mass claim to sort this situation out, if the information is already on the table?

What additional merit does a mass claim provide for town? ghug asked this earlier and you never responded

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#4265 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:50 am

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Pirate, can you confirm you're claiming you have a generic cop PM?
I am not doing that. I am claiming I am a cop of some kind. which is the same as ND did, if I am not mistaken.
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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4266 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:54 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:48 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:46 am
This is why today is mass claim today. We put all info into the light and see what world makes sense.
Does the world not make sense to you right now?
What needs is there for a mass claim to sort this situation out, if the information is already on the table?

What additional merit does a mass claim provide for town? ghug asked this earlier and you never responded
A mass claim turns the game into a series of counterclaims and clears. Simple as that. But with all of our cop scans, I think the puzzle will come more into focus.

The alternative is to allow scum to run the game.

Do you at least agree we need to follow our two clears or are you now open wolfing?

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4267 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:55 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:50 am
kingofthepirates wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:42 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:39 pm
Pirate, can you confirm you're claiming you have a generic cop PM?
I am not doing that. I am claiming I am a cop of some kind. which is the same as ND did, if I am not mistaken.
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He said on Day 3 that he could confirm ND was a Cop. That didn’t set off any alarm bells for you?

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#4268 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:55 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:55 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:50 am
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I am not doing that. I am claiming I am a cop of some kind. which is the same as ND did, if I am not mistaken.
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He said on Day 3 that he could confirm ND was a Cop. That didn’t set off any alarm bells for you?
Well i mean Dip flipped angel I assumed that was what kotp was referring to

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#4269 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:57 am

I don’t think he’s the vanilla cop either because he started a case on ND

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#4270 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:58 am

Maybe he is vanilla cop then.

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#4271 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:59 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:54 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:48 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:46 am
This is why today is mass claim today. We put all info into the light and see what world makes sense.
Does the world not make sense to you right now?
What needs is there for a mass claim to sort this situation out, if the information is already on the table?

What additional merit does a mass claim provide for town? ghug asked this earlier and you never responded
A mass claim turns the game into a series of counterclaims and clears. Simple as that. But with all of our cop scans, I think the puzzle will come more into focus.

The alternative is to allow scum to run the game.

Do you at least agree we need to follow our two clears or are you now open wolfing?
An interesting framework. I daresay used when you need a day to go without discussion.

I openly declare that I will vote for whoever I want, regardless of what our town clears want. What now, then?

I will further point out that you have not demonstrated with any degree of certainty that mass claims will turn this game into a series of counterclaims and clears. Are you ever going to do this or will you forever avoid the question?

It can't be that easy to be a lawyer.

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#4272 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:01 am

Be right back

Have at it with dear friend Will for a bit

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#4273 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:02 am

Yessir snowy sir

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#4274 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:05 am

I’m honestly willing to vote anyone if it means I live. Even brain since his results can’t be tailored to the current gamestate if he does happen to be cop

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#4275 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:07 am

WhatcI am thinking. Me, Worcej and KoP are town. Will is scum. Brain is either town or in the opposite team from Will.

Balki is un-cced Doc, which can be false but we are not killing him today.

The rest is a bunch of scum with two or three town we need to identify.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4276 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:08 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:59 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:54 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:48 am


Does the world not make sense to you right now?
What needs is there for a mass claim to sort this situation out, if the information is already on the table?

What additional merit does a mass claim provide for town? ghug asked this earlier and you never responded
A mass claim turns the game into a series of counterclaims and clears. Simple as that. But with all of our cop scans, I think the puzzle will come more into focus.

The alternative is to allow scum to run the game.

Do you at least agree we need to follow our two clears or are you now open wolfing?
An interesting framework. I daresay used when you need a day to go without discussion.

I openly declare that I will vote for whoever I want, regardless of what our town clears want. What now, then?

I will further point out that you have not demonstrated with any degree of certainty that mass claims will turn this game into a series of counterclaims and clears. Are you ever going to do this or will you forever avoid the question?

It can't be that easy to be a lawyer.
Sorry, I am used to playing with a different crowd I guess.

In my understanding and experience, in a PR-heavy game, when Town gets down to a level where they have to Daykill correctly or they lose, it’s almost always time to put all information on the table. I.e., mass claim.

The benefit is that we force scum to come forward immediately with their claims, which either creates a huge pool of VT-claims, and a set of town clears, or else it creates a list of people who have claimed the same role (CCs).

Some of the potential CCs may be further sorted in this game with all of the Cop scan data we have.

So, it seems to me overwhelmingly beneficial to mass claim today, put all info in the thread, and follow our clears. There are just too many wolves in the herd to carry on a normal vote.

Also, @Snowy, I’ll offer you unsolicited advice. It doesn’t make the game brighter to add insults to your posts. It doesn’t advance your win condition, it doesn’t set a good example, and it doesn’t make the game more fun.

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#4277 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:09 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
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WhatcI am thinking. Me, Worcej and KoP are town. Will is scum. Brain is either town or in the opposite team from Will.

Balki is un-cced Doc, which can be false but we are not killing him today.

The rest is a bunch of scum with two or three town we need to identify.
Why would we kill either me or brain this day.

Why would we not do Balki/DrFid/ anyone else

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#4278 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:09 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:07 am
WhatcI am thinking. Me, Worcej and KoP are town. Will is scum. Brain is either town or in the opposite team from Will.

Balki is un-cced Doc, which can be false but we are not killing him today.

The rest is a bunch of scum with two or three town we need to identify.
I wouldn’t rule out Brain and Will being on the same wolf team, if they are trying to set up Brain to win the game at the end. But otherwise, I agree.

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#4279 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:10 am

Nobody was gonna believe my claim anyway lolololol

But when I die and flip cop PLEASE do not let brain coast to the end PLEASE

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4280 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:11 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:09 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:07 am
WhatcI am thinking. Me, Worcej and KoP are town. Will is scum. Brain is either town or in the opposite team from Will.

Balki is un-cced Doc, which can be false but we are not killing him today.

The rest is a bunch of scum with two or three town we need to identify.
I wouldn’t rule out Brain and Will being on the same wolf team, if they are trying to set up Brain to win the game at the end. But otherwise, I agree.
Why would we kill someone who claimed cop that same day when there are PLENTY of other people who claim VT that are most likely not VT

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