Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[Vecna]

Similar to Food, you are completely null.

I just really don't have opinion. Whenever you have showed up in my analysis, you've just been kinda NAI.

this really does not match the vibe im getting from you though

Well where is this coming from? I feel like I've barely interacted with you this game. I'm a bit puzzled.

Its just the sense that you interact with me as though you regard me as a person that no longer needs to be sorted/towny.

It might just be because im the less hostile option when conversing, or something else im not considering.

[damo666]

Hate this Fidelis wagon. He's obvtown and a doctor.

How could you possibly know?

Doh!

[Vecna]

That’s a really weird scum list.

##VOTE ghug

The scummy list does correlate very highly with post cost (-brainbomb + chaqa and itd just be the top 5 posters or w/e).

I had not realized that myself. Vecna is really fucking observant this game for how uninvolved he is.

Ive been quite involved this day, but the combination of shade and compliment has been noted.

[sweetandcool]

this really does not match the vibe im getting from you though

Well where is this coming from? I feel like I've barely interacted with you this game. I'm a bit puzzled.

Its just the sense that you interact with me as though you regard me as a person that no longer needs to be sorted/towny.

It might just be because im the less hostile option when conversing, or something else im not considering.

Oh, I see.

Yeah, that's symptomatic of the fact I haven't bothered trying to sort you yet.

Also, maybe you are good at pocketing me, because every game you are friendly to me and town reading me.

Which is nice. sweetandcool needs a little love to weather the storm <3

[ghug]

Hate this Fidelis wagon. He's obvtown and a doctor.

He your teammate?

That is what I'm asserting.

I don't see scum talking in the game thread the first few hours of the night and then forgetting the game entirely for two days.

[foodcoats]

##VOTE DrFidelis

[sweetandcool]

Okay, I really don't have time to make anymore cases, but I did look back at D1 and why people are voting me.

I would assess the reasoning as better in comparison to damo's wagon, but actually pretty shit-tier.

Balki makes a misrepresenting argument that I'm manufacturing reasons to scumread him and to generally look busy and hunt. Please note he also made a wretched argument for scum reading damo and started that wagon too.

Diplomacy essentially agrees with his case.

Most other people hopped on for no real reason (though I only looked at votes, didn't have time to ISO so it's possible I missed some reasoning).

damo and sweet wagon were weirdly popular yet unsubstantial.

So unsubstantial that people were vocally and repeatedly trying to start flash wagons.

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Conclusion: Was sweetandcool saved? Yes, but by Town. Due to not wanting to D1 me again, and the fact that neither my wagon nor damo's wagon had much merit, people desperately searched for a flashwagon.

I think scum was on damo early, and probably sweetandcool as well.

[ghug]

##VOTE DrFidelis

This wagon suuuucks.

Everyone naked voting needs to actually explain themselves.

[foodcoats]

Why is it weird and why does the weirdness make me scum?

Compare the game where you scumread me for making a list.

Wasn't that also the game where I later correctly IDed you as town and then defended you for days in vain while you died scumreading me?

Your list was trying to look good. My list is trying to keep myself organized.

Weird answer lol. I was town then why did i care about looking good?

Your way of thinking only you are capable of properly playing Mafia at least suggests you are town here too.

[sweetandcool]

And today's wagon on me is even worse.

Balki votes me as carrover from D1. Worcej does for reasons? Rdr thinks I expending a ton of effort as scum theater.

Pirate is voting with "the majority".

DrFidelis is obvious Mafia voting me for very unlikely reasons.

[Chaqa]

##VOTE DrFidelis

This wagon suuuucks.

Everyone naked voting needs to actually explain themselves.

Did you not read Sweet's post where he catches Fidelis lying about forgetting about the game?

[Chaqa]

Okay, after thinking about it this is total BS.

DrFidelis comes online and posts this:

"apologies, y’all, for forgetting about the game of mafia. I’ll vote with the wagon and figure out an opinion from there." And then votes rdr.

Then SIX minutes later he posts:

"Wait that was an old wagon, there’s talk of sweet vs. balki and damo vs. sweet, sweet’s the common factor." And votes sweetandcool.

So in six minutes, he manages to conclude that there is discussion about sweet vs Balki, and discussion about sweet vs damo.

No way. This reeks.

##VOTE DrFidelis

@ghug

[snowy801]

I'm not able to play for the rest of the day due to reasons
I will almost certainly show up at eod to vote though

[ghug]

Compare the game where you scumread me for making a list.

Wasn't that also the game where I later correctly IDed you as town and then defended you for days in vain while you died scumreading me?

Your list was trying to look good. My list is trying to keep myself organized.

Weird answer lol. I was town then why did i care about looking good?

Your way of thinking only you are capable of properly playing Mafia at least suggests you are town here too.

Town cares about looking good too.

I don't think I'm the only person capable of playing, I think my reads list doesn't have the thing I was calling out in that game, so it's not hypocritical.

[ghug]

Okay, after thinking about it this is total BS.

DrFidelis comes online and posts this:

"apologies, y’all, for forgetting about the game of mafia. I’ll vote with the wagon and figure out an opinion from there." And then votes rdr.

Then SIX minutes later he posts:

"Wait that was an old wagon, there’s talk of sweet vs. balki and damo vs. sweet, sweet’s the common factor." And votes sweetandcool.

So in six minutes, he manages to conclude that there is discussion about sweet vs Balki, and discussion about sweet vs damo.

No way. This reeks.

##VOTE DrFidelis

@ghug

I did not going this convincing.

[Diplomacy&Warfare]

So, here's the thing.
I have a strong scumread on DrF and a weak scumread on sweet. However, damo and brain are voting DrF, and I don't trust either of them - damo has been suspicious all game and brain made a really scummy post N1 "scum pls kill these people". On the other hand, Balki, kotp and worcej are all riding the sweet wagon, and I townread all three.
(chaqa, food, and rdr are all nulls)
Ima go analyze DrF and sweet's posts from D1 and when I get back I will vote.
Also, people voting for ND, Balki, and Will should probably move their votes. The MMA only gets a kill if they have at least one vote, so ideally we should to clean up low-vote wagons.

[ghug]

I urge y’all not to follow the same players today. I strongly suggest we daykill Damo or Sweetie.

I like both of these options and will only vote between them.

This is literally the top post on the page Fidelis said that.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok, some interesting talk in the last 15.

All of sweet's cases imploding as they're written causing a slow decent into madness.

But I agree that soting damo or sweet is a solid idea. I also think as y'all are whispering about ejecting lurkers today would be the day. The low activity posters are MORE of a liability this game. Blind defense of low posters is strongly judge thinking.

So I went over EoD1 and I think JWill is glaringly at fault for that miskill. He toggled that wagon what, three times in 5 minutes? That is a lot of artificial momentum.

Also, I don't know if JWill has been assed enough to realize darg got subbed.

##Vote Justaguy

I want to vote my read now. I scumread damo slightly more than sweet but am ok with either. I don't see Balki as scum rn, but a lot of that is on the back of I see the hypo stuff was very town aligned, but the issue came that people were not supposed to do anything with it and they fuckin did.

I did and whenever i talk about u or darg i just say darg

Also ye i know but i found it incredibly strange that Ham was in zero conversations even though no one townread him

[ghug]

I assumed people had other reasons they weren't stating because sweet's was so lazy and bad. If that's really enough for six people to jump on a wagon without any due diligence, there's something wrong with all of you.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok, some interesting talk in the last 15.

All of sweet's cases imploding as they're written causing a slow decent into madness.

But I agree that soting damo or sweet is a solid idea. I also think as y'all are whispering about ejecting lurkers today would be the day. The low activity posters are MORE of a liability this game. Blind defense of low posters is strongly judge thinking.

So I went over EoD1 and I think JWill is glaringly at fault for that miskill. He toggled that wagon what, three times in 5 minutes? That is a lot of artificial momentum.

Also, I don't know if JWill has been assed enough to realize darg got subbed.

##Vote Justaguy

I want to vote my read now. I scumread damo slightly more than sweet but am ok with either. I don't see Balki as scum rn, but a lot of that is on the back of I see the hypo stuff was very town aligned, but the issue came that people were not supposed to do anything with it and they fuckin did.

Oh hype

##VOTE Just

Sorry Kak

Oy!